No Negotiations Until Federal Gov Opens

[Oddball]

It appears Trump's tv appeal for money will let him keep his base, but it seems clear to that the dems just don't have to do a deal with him. The gop will cave.

And his taxes aren't his problem now. It also appears that Mueller has at least one direct tie between his campaign and the former KGB sharing election data. He may still avoid impeachment because the gop senators fear his base, and some Bannonesque led charge of the White Supremecist Brigade

 

[bendog]

It appears Trump's tv appeal for money will let him keep his base, but it seems clear to that the dems just don't have to do a deal with him. The gop will cave.

And his taxes aren't his problem now. It also appears that Mueller has at least one direct tie between his campaign and the former KGB sharing election data. He may still avoid impeachment because the gop senators fear his base, and some Bannonesque led charge of the White Supremecist Brigade

He's winning, Trumpbot. Really he's winning Bigly.

 

[iceberg]

Shutdown Day 17: White House, Dems disagree on definition of ‘negotiating’

seems to me that they couldn't negotiate so that's why it was shut down. why is reopening it going to change anything?

in any event, what i don't understand is back in 2006 hillary, obama and many on the left said yes, walls are needed. they just didn't want a LONG wall that stretched out in areas where it doesn't make sense. use drones and technology to also supplement this.

so why not go back to what they wanted in 2006 and say "we'll compromise and do this" - around 700-1000 miles of walls *and* technology THEN we follow up by working on DACA and why immigration got to be such a hassle next.

instead we've put ourselves in a collective position where we simply refuse anything but what we want, even if we don't want it but only NOW want it cause *THEY* DON'T want it. whatever it is.

our government's collective mental age is around 8.

No sane person would trust Donald's word on DACA.

funny. i hear no sane person would trust many politicians at all. now we want to get specific because a specific validates hate.

it's like pulling 1 person out of a subset of 100 and blaming them for their traits but ignoring the 99 who also do the same thing. the main reason people do this is hate.

Most presidents don't back out of deals they've given their word on

Actually you don't negotiate that way unless you're a bankruptcy artist.

glad to see you're not coming in from a predisposed notion that you refuse to change regardless of circumstances.

Presidents can't give their word on a deal and then back out when talk show hosts don't like it. Not if the president wants to have any credibility in making a deal later on. Trump is toast.

trump is toast.
THIS is going to send hillary to jail
PROOF OBAMA SPIED!!!

each side has their endless dreams i suppose. dream on, son.

 

[jc456]

Shutdown Day 17: White House, Dems disagree on definition of ‘negotiating’

seems to me that they couldn't negotiate so that's why it was shut down. why is reopening it going to change anything?

in any event, what i don't understand is back in 2006 hillary, obama and many on the left said yes, walls are needed. they just didn't want a LONG wall that stretched out in areas where it doesn't make sense. use drones and technology to also supplement this.

so why not go back to what they wanted in 2006 and say "we'll compromise and do this" - around 700-1000 miles of walls *and* technology THEN we follow up by working on DACA and why immigration got to be such a hassle next.

instead we've put ourselves in a collective position where we simply refuse anything but what we want, even if we don't want it but only NOW want it cause *THEY* DON'T want it. whatever it is.

our government's collective mental age is around 8.

No sane person would trust Donald's word on DACA.

funny. i hear no sane person would trust many politicians at all. now we want to get specific because a specific validates hate.

it's like pulling 1 person out of a subset of 100 and blaming them for their traits but ignoring the 99 who also do the same thing. the main reason people do this is hate.

Most presidents don't back out of deals they've given their word on

Actually you don't negotiate that way unless you're a bankruptcy artist.

glad to see you're not coming in from a predisposed notion that you refuse to change regardless of circumstances.

Presidents can't give their word on a deal and then back out when talk show hosts don't like it. Not if the president wants to have any credibility in making a deal later on. Trump is toast.

Such as? Meaning, what deal?

 

[jc456]

As soon as we get the check from Mexico, he will have kept his campaign promise.

Again, you make that stupid comment. You ain’t the brightest bulb, nor the sharpest knife! You’re a zero

 

[jc456]

Because tax EXPERTS can find how the pos has been f-ing the system

Isn’t the irs tax experts? He’s under audits they found nothing. Who besides the IRS do you need? TDS fk

Look you trumpette you traitor ever hear of forensic accountants? They will tear a new hole into your trump lying scumbag

dude you have TDS bad. such rage for a President of the US. you should be careful with how much you post your rage.

I'm trying jc But I have the bad habit of calling shit shit Don't need to dress it up

It appears Trump's tv appeal for money will let him keep his base, but it seems clear to that the dems just don't have to do a deal with him. The gop will cave.

And his taxes aren't his problem now. It also appears that Mueller has at least one direct tie between his campaign and the former KGB sharing election data. He may still avoid impeachment because the gop senators fear his base, and some Bannonesque led charge of the White Supremecist Brigade

Dude you speculate more than
My dogs crap

 

[jc456]

It appears Trump's tv appeal for money will let him keep his base, but it seems clear to that the dems just don't have to do a deal with him. The gop will cave.

And his taxes aren't his problem now. It also appears that Mueller has at least one direct tie between his campaign and the former KGB sharing election data. He may still avoid impeachment because the gop senators fear his base, and some Bannonesque led charge of the White Supremecist Brigade

He's winning, Trumpbot. Really he's winning Bigly.

3.2% gdp for 2018, more manufacturing jobs in two years then obammy in eight! What a loser eh? Oh for the days of 5% unemployment and 2.0% growth and no manufacturing!

 

[candycorn]

As soon as we get the check from Mexico, he will have kept his campaign promise.

Again, you make that stupid comment. You ain’t the brightest bulb, nor the sharpest knife! You’re a zero

Hey, your blob said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. I’m just asking where the check is.
That it makes you uncomfortable and angry…that is your problem.

 

[jc456]

As soon as we get the check from Mexico, he will have kept his campaign promise.

Again, you make that stupid comment. You ain’t the brightest bulb, nor the sharpest knife! You’re a zero

Hey, your blob said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. I’m just asking where the check is.
That it makes you uncomfortable and angry…that is your problem.

Yep, and there’s already been an explanation in here on how. If you really cared, you would have read them. You just stay a zero

 

[jc456]

As soon as we get the check from Mexico, he will have kept his campaign promise.

Again, you make that stupid comment. You ain’t the brightest bulb, nor the sharpest knife! You’re a zero

Hey, your blob said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. I’m just asking where the check is.
That it makes you uncomfortable and angry…that is your problem.

by the way, he’s still your president. Insults won’t change that zero

 

[jc456]

Why do you need them? Can’t answer?

Because tax EXPERTS can find how the pos has been f-ing the system

Isn’t the irs tax experts? He’s under audits they found nothing. Who besides the IRS do you need? TDS fk

Look you trumpette you traitor ever hear of forensic accountants? They will tear a new hole into your trump lying scumbag

dude you have TDS bad. such rage for a President of the US. you should be careful with how much you post your rage.

I'm trying jc But I have the bad habit of calling shit shit Don't need to dress it up

I laugh at schmucks like you, cause you truly hate Americans

 

[bendog]

The good news for Trump is his base is holding, the bad news is nobody else is happy with him. LOL

Poll: Voters blame Trump, GOP for shutdown

And the really bad news would be if nobody is afraid of him anymore

 

[g5000]

THEN we follow up by working on DACA

Yeah, that's what the Republicans said they would do the last time a shutdown was threatened, and then they didn't do shit about the Dreamers.

I would not take their word on fuck-all.

 

[jc456]

The good news for Trump is his base is holding, the bad news is nobody else is happy with him. LOL

Poll: Voters blame Trump, GOP for shutdown

And the really bad news would be if nobody is afraid of him anymore

Ahh polls you should stop inserting them

 

[candycorn]

As soon as we get the check from Mexico, he will have kept his campaign promise.

Again, you make that stupid comment. You ain’t the brightest bulb, nor the sharpest knife! You’re a zero

Hey, your blob said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. I’m just asking where the check is.
That it makes you uncomfortable and angry…that is your problem.

Yep, and there’s already been an explanation in here on how. If you really cared, you would have read them. You just stay a zero

The explanation is that he lied. What remains a mystery is why you continue to hump his leg like a little poodle.

I just like beating you over the head with that fact which explains why you are so angry.

 

[iceberg]

THEN we follow up by working on DACA

Yeah, that's what the Republicans said they would do the last time a shutdown was threatened, and then they didn't do shit about the Dreamers.

I would not take their word on fuck-all.

funny.

going by past experience, we're shut down cause the dems won't follow through on their compromises.

wheee. let's keep flinging history around to guide our future!!!

 

[bendog]

THEN we follow up by working on DACA

Yeah, that's what the Republicans said they would do the last time a shutdown was threatened, and then they didn't do shit about the Dreamers.

I would not take their word on fuck-all.

Even McConnell isn't doing any more deals with Trump

And that's what makes the situation not just on the Trump shutdown, but on any legislation, unique in my lifetime ... or at least unique other than in the Nixon impeachment crisis.

There is simply no way to do any govt business unless it's bipartisan and a veto proof majority.

 

[easyt65]

 

[iceberg]

THEN we follow up by working on DACA

Yeah, that's what the Republicans said they would do the last time a shutdown was threatened, and then they didn't do shit about the Dreamers.

I would not take their word on fuck-all.

Even McConnell isn't doing any more deals with Trump

And that's what makes the situation not just on the Trump shutdown, but on any legislation, unique in my lifetime ... or at least unique other than in the Nixon impeachment crisis.

There is simply no way to do any govt business unless it's bipartisan and a veto proof majority.

cause the left has been so trustworthy? is that it?

i'd love to find an answer in the middle but it's painfully obvious many people in here just hate the other side. end of story. both sides can find historical reasons for the hate, but neither side can find a way to put the hate down.

 

[easyt65]

cause the left has been so trustworthy? is that it?

i'd love to find an answer in the middle but it's painfully obvious many people in here just hate the other side. end of story. both sides can find historical reasons for the hate, but neither side can find a way to put the hate down.

Sure we can.

Democrats Get DACA. Trump/America Gets The Wall.

Democrats agree to end / shut down their illegal criminal/cop killer-protecting Sanctuary Cities and Trump agrees to open back up the government.

It would be nice if the Democrats 'threw in' a promise to stop election fraud / using votes from illegals as they did in Broward country this last election, but I don't expect them to bend over backwards here as we begin to try to compromise.