No One Has a Right to Health Care

[Jantje_Smit]

It's not the federal governments money, and it's not the federal governments place to determine who makes what. It's none of their business, the federal governments credibility is shit and piss when comes to financial responsibility. Mandatory insurance is nothing more than legalized extortion. Dumbass

Eh, the idea isn't mandatory insurance but simply healthcare for everyone financed by taxes. The idea that healthcare is a consumer good just like pizzas that should be provided by the free market to ensure "efficiency" is simply stupid. Like you would go shopping, looking for the cheapest hospital when you have a heart attack.

But organizing it that way would be evil socialism and the first step on the way to a communist dictatorship, right?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Na, not really.
There is nothing civilized about socialism. Dumbass
Hitler, Stalin etc. all products of socialism...
Lol

Oh, and that's another problem with you Ayn Rand worshippers, you don't have the slightest clue what socialism actually is.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

I own three S corps, the last looked I was a person. Dumbass
Lol

Really, I'm still not convinced you're a human being?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

They favor it because they think they will get it for free. Or if liberals are in charge, make some wealthy people pay for it.

The wor$hipping of $billionaires by you cultists is really scary, who cares if the Koch brothers or Bill Gates would have to pay a few $million more in taxes to ensure everyone got healthcare? They wouldn't even notice it, it would just be a rounding error on their income statements.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Correct, Bernie has some great ideas, like doubling the debt and giving everything away for free. Of course, when he chases all the wealthy people out of the country, we will all have to pay for free.

Oh no, all the the wealthy people would leave the homeland..... scary thought....

And where would they go exactly so that they wouldn't have to pay taxes? Canada, the EU, China, Russia, Mexico, Cuba, Iran?

Ah wait, Somalia of course. The Ayn Rand paradise, no government, no taxes, everyone has a gun to protect himself, the free market rules.....

 

[Maryland Patriot]

It's not the federal governments money, and it's not the federal governments place to determine who makes what. It's none of their business, the federal governments credibility is shit and piss when comes to financial responsibility. Mandatory insurance is nothing more than legalized extortion. Dumbass

Eh, the idea isn't mandatory insurance but simply healthcare for everyone financed by taxes. The idea that healthcare is a consumer good just like pizzas that should be provided by the free market to ensure "efficiency" is simply stupid. Like you would go shopping, looking for the cheapest hospital when you have a heart attack.

But organizing it that way would be evil socialism and the first step on the way to a communist dictatorship, right?

always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

 

[Jantje_Smit]

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

Trump groupie?

 

[Muhammed]

I disagree with the OP. I have a right to health care because I already paid for it, you piece of shit!

 

[Jantje_Smit]

always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

You don't have the best healthcare in the world, you have the most expensive insurance schemes that provide the best treatments for those that can afford it.

And I think it's simply wrong to profit from other peoples misery

 

[Dr Grump]

always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

US healthcare is a joke in the first world....most European countries, Canada and Aust/NZ have much better and fairer systems. A capitalistic health care system is doomed to fail and only helps the elite....You need a mixture of both socialist and capitalist.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

You don't have the best healthcare in the world, you have the most expensive insurance schemes that provide the best treatments for those that can afford it.

And I think it's simply wrong to profit from other peoples misery

well, evidently I can afford it, so why would I want this to change

 

[Jantje_Smit]

well, evidently I can afford it, so why would I want this to change

Well, if you can afford it there's obviously no reason to change it.

 

[rightwinger]

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The Constitution in no way requires unlimited obedience to majority rule. Indeed, it flat out denies it. I can't imagine what kind of authoritarian zealot would claim otherwise.

I have never seen a worse interpretation of our Constitution

How so? Do you believe it does require unlimited obedience to majority rule?

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Your disobedience comes through freedom of speech, freedom of the press , your right to vote

<note I left off right to bear arms>

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

US healthcare is a joke in the first world....most European countries, Canada and Aust/NZ have much better and fairer systems. A capitalistic health care system is doomed to fail and only helps the elite....You need a mixture of both socialist and capitalist.

We have the best healthcare in the world. Our problem is finding a way to pay for it. As time went on, it became unaffordable, and government contributed greatly to that problem. So what should we do? Have the entity that caused the problem run it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correct, Bernie has some great ideas, like doubling the debt and giving everything away for free. Of course, when he chases all the wealthy people out of the country, we will all have to pay for free.

Oh no, all the the wealthy people would leave the homeland..... scary thought....

And where would they go exactly so that they wouldn't have to pay taxes? Canada, the EU, China, Russia, Mexico, Cuba, Iran?

Ah wait, Somalia of course. The Ayn Rand paradise, no government, no taxes, everyone has a gun to protect himself, the free market rules.....

Where are they going now? We have record amounts of people renouncing their citizenship because of taxes.

Let me explain something to you: If we could take all the so-called poor people that are dragging our nation down, put them on an island somewhere, they wouldn't be missed by anybody. In fact, it would make the country much stronger. Take every rich person and do the same thing, the country collapses.

Who do you think supports all our spending; all our social programs; our military and government workers? That's right, the rich people. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all federal income taxers. Who would pay that if they left--you???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They favor it because they think they will get it for free. Or if liberals are in charge, make some wealthy people pay for it.

The wor$hipping of $billionaires by you cultists is really scary, who cares if the Koch brothers or Bill Gates would have to pay a few $million more in taxes to ensure everyone got healthcare? They wouldn't even notice it, it would just be a rounding error on their income statements.

Right, that's all it would cost them, just a few million.

Why do you think we have such a problem with our healthcare in this country anyway? Do you know what we spend?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's not the federal governments money, and it's not the federal governments place to determine who makes what. It's none of their business, the federal governments credibility is shit and piss when comes to financial responsibility. Mandatory insurance is nothing more than legalized extortion. Dumbass

Eh, the idea isn't mandatory insurance but simply healthcare for everyone financed by taxes. The idea that healthcare is a consumer good just like pizzas that should be provided by the free market to ensure "efficiency" is simply stupid. Like you would go shopping, looking for the cheapest hospital when you have a heart attack.

But organizing it that way would be evil socialism and the first step on the way to a communist dictatorship, right?

Now you're catching on.

 

[Wilbur Right]

We have record amounts of people renouncing their citizenship because of taxes.

1426 people. OMG the world of the USA has just about ended if 1426 entire, whole people renounce their citizenship., or turn in their green card, or use any one of the VARIETY of reasons people decide to do this.

Nice try at misleading. Again.

Guess what ray. If you join in the exodus, no one will miss you. I mean you are like the poor you hate so much.
You drive a fucking truck dude. We would get by without your expertise.

So dont let the door hit ya in the ass on your way to a no tax, no poor people heaven. Where ever you think that is.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Where are they going now? We have record amounts of people renouncing their citizenship because of taxes.

Let me explain something to you: If we could take all the so-called poor people that are dragging our nation down, put them on an island somewhere, they wouldn't be missed by anybody. In fact, it would make the country much stronger. Take every rich person and do the same thing, the country collapses.

Who do you think supports all our spending; all our social programs; our military and government workers? That's right, the rich people. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all federal income taxers. Who would pay that if they left--you???

Why do you guys always only focus on income taxes and forget about payroll taxes?

Also, if you got rid of the poor all your beloved job creators would be in big trouble because they wouldn't have cheap labour for their factories anymore, nobody to pick up their garbage, nobody to serve them drinks in their country clubs etc.

Let me explain something to you: rich people only exist because society lets them exploit poor people and it's time they do something back for society. If that means they can only buy 1 new yacht a year instead of two that's too bad.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We have record amounts of people renouncing their citizenship because of taxes.

1426 people. OMG the world of the USA has just about ended if 1426 entire, whole people renounce their citizenship., or turn in their green card, or use any one of the VARIETY of reasons people decide to do this.

Nice try at misleading. Again.

Guess what ray. If you join in the exodus, no one will miss you. I mean you are like the poor you hate so much.
You drive a fucking truck dude. We would get by without your expertise.

So dont let the door hit ya in the ass on your way to a no tax, no poor people heaven. Where ever you think that is.

Oh my, did I hurt your feelings by saying if we put welfare people like you on an island, you'd never be missed? Sorry, I didn't think of you when I wrote it.