No One Has a Right to Health Care

And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead each of the parties off a cliff... Smoke'em out and get rid of them... Then the parties could come together for the ultimate duty call and service given for we the people.

When I say corporate party I mean your current one party system with two wings, the republican wing that appeals to the racists and religious loonies and the democratic wing that gives some breadcrumbs to the masses and makes them think they're actually progressive.

:alcoholic:
 
But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The Constitution in no way requires unlimited obedience to majority rule. Indeed, it flat out denies it. I can't imagine what kind of authoritarian zealot would claim otherwise.
I have never seen a worse interpretation of our Constitution

How so? Do you believe it does require unlimited obedience to majority rule?

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Your disobedience comes through freedom of speech, freedom of the press , your right to vote

<note I left off right to bear arms>

I note you leave off any freedom that you don't like, which is the hypocrisy your view is based on. It seems odd you wear it like a badge of honor.
 
If you own a home and sell it at a profit, you pay no capital gains taxes if it's the first time you sold a home. Houses you sell after the first one are held to capital gains taxation.



You are full of shit dude. And yet claim to be educated. Educated at what?

Look up the Tax Payer Relief Act of 1997. Then read about the Housing Assistance Act of 2008.

Try to really educate yourself about something.

Because your ideas of the cap gains tax benefits for owner occupied homes is wrong.

Where did you get your education? A message board?

I have a professional tax preparer take care of my taxes Short Bus. My taxes are too complicated to take advice from internet trolls.
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.

If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.

I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.

Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.

They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
...But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.

As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....

:alcoholic:
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff.

We are trying on the right side. The left seems to keep moving more and more left with each election.

Getting rid of all the bad is easier said than done. Unfortunately, many Americans use the same criteria to vote their representatives in as they do their favorite American Idol contestants: how do they look, how do they dress, how nice does their family look, how well do they speak????
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.

If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.

I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.

Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.

They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
...But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.

As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....

:alcoholic:
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff.

We are trying on the right side. The left seems to keep moving more and more left with each election.

Getting rid of all the bad is easier said than done. Unfortunately, many Americans use the same criteria to vote their representatives in as they do their favorite American Idol contestants: how do they look, how do they dress, how nice does their family look, how well do they speak????
The worst problem is that the feds have resided over the empowering of idiots all across this land when it came to influencing elections by use of it's authority and power wrongfully. This area of the federal government I do not like nor agree with because it has failed us in these areas badly. I mean look at the results.. When the fed acts in a bipartisan and more harmonious way, good things happen, but when it acts on the notions of a few we all get hammered.
 
If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.

I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.

Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.

They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
...But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.

As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....

:alcoholic:
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff.

We are trying on the right side. The left seems to keep moving more and more left with each election.

Getting rid of all the bad is easier said than done. Unfortunately, many Americans use the same criteria to vote their representatives in as they do their favorite American Idol contestants: how do they look, how do they dress, how nice does their family look, how well do they speak????
The worst problem is that the feds have resided over the empowering of idiots all across this land when it came to influencing elections by use of it's authority and power wrongfully. This area of the federal government I do not like nor agree with because it has failed us in these areas badly. I mean look at the results.. When the fed acts in a bipartisan and more harmonious way, good things happen, but when it acts on the notions of a few we all get hammered.

The most influence over people when it comes to politics is the media hands down. Teacher say--Student do. Look at what many on the left post here on USMB. They blame Fox, Hannity or Limbaugh for every stance the right takes. They actually believe that many problems we have today is Reagan's fault, and the guy left office almost 30 years ago.

Not everybody can be this vacant when it comes to understanding politics. This is learned behavior. This brainwashing has to come from somewhere.
 
But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The Constitution in no way requires unlimited obedience to majority rule. Indeed, it flat out denies it. I can't imagine what kind of authoritarian zealot would claim otherwise.
I have never seen a worse interpretation of our Constitution

How so? Do you believe it does require unlimited obedience to majority rule?

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Your disobedience comes through freedom of speech, freedom of the press , your right to vote

<note I left off right to bear arms>

I note you leave off any freedom that you don't like, which is the hypocrisy your view is based on. It seems odd you wear it like a badge of honor.

If you have a strong First Amendment, you have no need for a second
 
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.

I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.

Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.

They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
...But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.

As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....

:alcoholic:
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff.

We are trying on the right side. The left seems to keep moving more and more left with each election.

Getting rid of all the bad is easier said than done. Unfortunately, many Americans use the same criteria to vote their representatives in as they do their favorite American Idol contestants: how do they look, how do they dress, how nice does their family look, how well do they speak????
The worst problem is that the feds have resided over the empowering of idiots all across this land when it came to influencing elections by use of it's authority and power wrongfully. This area of the federal government I do not like nor agree with because it has failed us in these areas badly. I mean look at the results.. When the fed acts in a bipartisan and more harmonious way, good things happen, but when it acts on the notions of a few we all get hammered.

The most influence over people when it comes to politics is the media hands down. Teacher say--Student do. Look at what many on the left post here on USMB. They blame Fox, Hannity or Limbaugh for every stance the right takes. They actually believe that many problems we have today is Reagan's fault, and the guy left office almost 30 years ago.

Not everybody can be this vacant when it comes to understanding politics. This is learned behavior. This brainwashing has to come from somewhere.
What is the media?
TV, Radio, Newspapers, Internet, USMB?

We have more open access to political thoughts of all the political spectrum than in any time in history
 
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The Constitution in no way requires unlimited obedience to majority rule. Indeed, it flat out denies it. I can't imagine what kind of authoritarian zealot would claim otherwise.
I have never seen a worse interpretation of our Constitution

How so? Do you believe it does require unlimited obedience to majority rule?

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Your disobedience comes through freedom of speech, freedom of the press , your right to vote

<note I left off right to bear arms>

I note you leave off any freedom that you don't like, which is the hypocrisy your view is based on. It seems odd you wear it like a badge of honor.

If you have a strong First Amendment, you have no need for a second

Well, if you have strong Constitution, and Court, you don't need either. But since we don't. And since the First is being degraded daily....
 
Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.

They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....

:alcoholic:
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff.

We are trying on the right side. The left seems to keep moving more and more left with each election.

Getting rid of all the bad is easier said than done. Unfortunately, many Americans use the same criteria to vote their representatives in as they do their favorite American Idol contestants: how do they look, how do they dress, how nice does their family look, how well do they speak????
The worst problem is that the feds have resided over the empowering of idiots all across this land when it came to influencing elections by use of it's authority and power wrongfully. This area of the federal government I do not like nor agree with because it has failed us in these areas badly. I mean look at the results.. When the fed acts in a bipartisan and more harmonious way, good things happen, but when it acts on the notions of a few we all get hammered.

The most influence over people when it comes to politics is the media hands down. Teacher say--Student do. Look at what many on the left post here on USMB. They blame Fox, Hannity or Limbaugh for every stance the right takes. They actually believe that many problems we have today is Reagan's fault, and the guy left office almost 30 years ago.

Not everybody can be this vacant when it comes to understanding politics. This is learned behavior. This brainwashing has to come from somewhere.
What is the media?
TV, Radio, Newspapers, Internet, USMB?

We have more open access to political thoughts of all the political spectrum than in any time in history

This is true, but that doesn't mean everybody utilizes this selection.
 
I guess I will never understand, socialists want everyone else to pay for their shit.
A suck ass, kiss ass way to live...
So it's the socialists that draft young men into the military and put their lives at risk.


The fascists and the socialists.

Under those doctrines the people have those rights the bureaucrats allow them to have.


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always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this

US healthcare is a joke in the first world....most European countries, Canada and Aust/NZ have much better and fairer systems. A capitalistic health care system is doomed to fail and only helps the elite....You need a mixture of both socialist and capitalist.
If there is no profit in people's health problems what good are health problems?
 
I have a professional tax preparer take care of my taxes Short Bus. My taxes are too complicated to take advice from internet trolls.




LMAO. I mean really. Fucking seriously.

Here is some real advice. Have your accountant (who will know what both pieces of tax legislation I mentioned actually says) have him/her read them to you as a bed time story.

Cause you know the words in the tax legislation would be to big for you to figure out, so have the accountant splain everything to that steel trap of a mind. LMFAO.

Did you eat lead as a kid? Seriously?
 
It's not the federal governments money, and it's not the federal governments place to determine who makes what. It's none of their business, the federal governments credibility is shit and piss when comes to financial responsibility. Mandatory insurance is nothing more than legalized extortion. Dumbass

Eh, the idea isn't mandatory insurance but simply healthcare for everyone financed by taxes. The idea that healthcare is a consumer good just like pizzas that should be provided by the free market to ensure "efficiency" is simply stupid. Like you would go shopping, looking for the cheapest hospital when you have a heart attack.

But organizing it that way would be evil socialism and the first step on the way to a communist dictatorship, right?

:alcoholic:
Socialism has never been proven to work, long term
Socialism = fairytale
 
They favor it because they think they will get it for free. Or if liberals are in charge, make some wealthy people pay for it.

The wor$hipping of $billionaires by you cultists is really scary, who cares if the Koch brothers or Bill Gates would have to pay a few $million more in taxes to ensure everyone got healthcare? They wouldn't even notice it, it would just be a rounding error on their income statements.

:smoke:
The government has no place in the people's business
 

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