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Right, that's all it would cost them, just a few million.
Why do you think we have such a problem with our healthcare in this country anyway? Do you know what we spend?
Where are they going now? We have record amounts of people renouncing their citizenship because of taxes.
Let me explain something to you: If we could take all the so-called poor people that are dragging our nation down, put them on an island somewhere, they wouldn't be missed by anybody. In fact, it would make the country much stronger. Take every rich person and do the same thing, the country collapses.
Who do you think supports all our spending; all our social programs; our military and government workers? That's right, the rich people. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all federal income taxers. Who would pay that if they left--you???
Why do you guys always only focus on income taxes and forget about payroll taxes?
Also, if you got rid of the poor all your beloved job creators would be in big trouble because they wouldn't have cheap labour for their factories anymore, nobody to pick up their garbage, nobody to serve them drinks in their country clubs etc.
Let me explain something to you: rich people only exist because society lets them exploit poor people and it's time they do something back for society. If that means they can only buy 1 new yacht a year instead of two that's too bad.
Right, that's all it would cost them, just a few million.
Why do you think we have such a problem with our healthcare in this country anyway? Do you know what we spend?
The entire problem is that you don't have healthcare, you have insurance care and you're unable to see the difference between the two.
And what makes it so expensive is that people are afraid to go the doctor when they feel sick (because they have to pay) so a common cold that could be cured with a few vitamin pills and some rest turns into pneumonia that has to be treated in a hospital.
Oh my, did I hurt your feelings by saying if we put welfare people like you on an island, y
There is no need for those evil rich people to increase wages when they can get foreigners to work for less than Americans would.
Oh my, did I hurt your feelings by saying if we put welfare people like you on an island, y
Hurt my feelings? LMAO. Thats it dude. An ignorant truck driver has hurt my feelings. Funny shit. And you think I am on welfare. Thats like the ultimate insult you could hurl isnt it?
Like I told your butt buddy conman. I got 10k to bet that says I aint on welfare. You got 10k I can take from you? Or are you just all mouth?
But lets talk about your claim about the devastation caused by 1400 people who leave the country.
You got any proof of the problems this is causing?
Or you just making shit up again.
No, rich people exist because other people freely and willingly give them their money. You do it, I do it, we all do it.
Why do we focus on income taxes, because payroll taxes only contribute to Social Security and Medicare. That's of course besides your state or city deductions, but those are local deductions. All your goodies come from income tax money.
We don't have cheap labor because of poor Americans, we have cheap labor because DumBama allows all these illegals and legals to come here and keep our wages down. There is no need for those evil rich people to increase wages when they can get foreigners to work for less than Americans would.
ah, you have 10K to bet.
I know one thing for sure, and that is you don't have a lot of money wherever you get it from. Your comprehension
can't have a job that requires any real education
No, what makes it so expensive is that Medicare and Medicaid only pay 2/3 of the bill of their patients and doctors and hospitals have to make that money back somewhere. Malpractice insurance too makes medical care expensive.
And I thought all our woes of medical care were solved by DumBama! No? Well what happened? We were promised the world by the Democrats, and that never happened.
No, what makes it so expensive is that Medicare and Medicaid only pay 2/3 of the bill of their patients and doctors and hospitals have to make that money back somewhere. Malpractice insurance too makes medical care expensive.
See, it's that insurance thingy again. Malpractice insurance doesn't seem to be much of an issue in countries with universal healthcare.
And I thought all our woes of medical care were solved by DumBama! No? Well what happened? We were promised the world by the Democrats, and that never happened.
If you somehow think that I'm a democrat and Obama supporter let me correct that, Obama is a lying, corrupt, warmongering hypocrite who sold out to the insurance industry without a problem supported by the rest of the equally corrupt democratic party.
ah, you have 10K to bet.
I know one thing for sure, and that is you don't have a lot of money wherever you get it from. Your comprehension
Yep ray I got 10k. The question is do you have it? And do you want to bet it?
And ray, you dont know anything for sure about someone posting on a message board.
can't have a job that requires any real education
So you think I have a lack of education LMAO. This coming from a truck driver,.
How many degrees does it take to drive a truck? You work in a field where illegals who can barely speak English can drive a truck. And you think you are part of an educated work force eh?
For you driving a truck is rocket science isnt it ray?
Funny shit ray.
This kinda of speak might work on the mentality of your associates be it here or there, but people are smarter than you think they are, and they know how to desern between the issues more than you give them credit for, and especially when wrote your little post here.I think we should all have the right to a "BRAND NEW CAR!" to get us to our free doctors.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.
If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
. And you know damn well nobody is going to bet you 10K on the internet unless it's somebody you personally know. That's the only reason you would bet money you don't have.
No, rich people exist because other people freely and willingly give them their money. You do it, I do it, we all do it.
Freely? Willingly? Remember the too big to fail banks bailout, when $trillions were handed over so the crimininals wouldn't miss any bonusses?
Or when BP and Exxon caused environmental disasters and only got a small fine so taxpayers could pay the bill. Or when Halliburton screwed your troops in Iraq but still got $billions in contracts or......
Well, maybe you're right, the public lets them get away with it after all..
Why do we focus on income taxes, because payroll taxes only contribute to Social Security and Medicare. That's of course besides your state or city deductions, but those are local deductions. All your goodies come from income tax money.
Funny, payroll taxes pay for social security and medicare but somehow that's still "free stuff" according to your logic. And since there's no social security lockbox the distinction between payroll and income taxes is useless, taxes are taxes and there's no reason why Mitt Romney and his buddies should pay less % than people who actually work for a living.
We don't have cheap labor because of poor Americans, we have cheap labor because DumBama allows all these illegals and legals to come here and keep our wages down. There is no need for those evil rich people to increase wages when they can get foreigners to work for less than Americans would.
Just one question, who do you think actually hires all those illegals? Could it possibly all those rich people you love so much?
...But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.
If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.
Take the style of government that ruined it out of office, replace it with one that can fix it, then proceed to fix it by taking over the insurance industry, issue the citizens a federal medical healthcare card to be honored in all places used that provide legit medical services, and keep doctors, clinics and hospitals in the free market system in order to spur innovation and creativity in those institutions or places. Turn the current insurance corps into fraud detection agencies and patient accounts management offices for all citizens insured by the government. Have the dues taken out in taxes in which would be drawn out of every citizens income in which draws an income in the nation. Even prisoners who are in prison would have their fee drawn out of their work pay while in prison. It's a huge win for citizens because in a pool that large, and even with administrative cost figured, the deduction shouldn't be no more than say $8.00 dollars a week for dental and full healthcare services.always better to have the free market produce the best health care in the word then have the government steal all of the work and investment of those companies.
Of course you see nothing wrong with this
US healthcare is a joke in the first world....most European countries, Canada and Aust/NZ have much better and fairer systems. A capitalistic health care system is doomed to fail and only helps the elite....You need a mixture of both socialist and capitalist.
We have the best healthcare in the world. Our problem is finding a way to pay for it. As time went on, it became unaffordable, and government contributed greatly to that problem. So what should we do? Have the entity that caused the problem run it.
You are factually incorrect. I have a family member who had cancer and needed surgery. It was planned - surgery was scheduled 2-3 months after diagnosis. She had no insurance no means to pay. The surgery ended up costing her nearly $100k. I know this because I helped her negotiate and settle the bills. On the morning of the surgery I gave the hospital $1,000.00. She had the surgery. This was pre-ACA.Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.
If you walked in with cancer and needed treatment, they may or may not treat you. Hospitals only have to stabilize the person. They do not have to offer full treatment if the person is not capable of making payment. What I find a bit odd is that conservatives are against forcing people to buy health insurance, but they seem to have no problem with the idea, as false as it is, that hospitals must treat patients who cannot pay? How is that based on a free market economy? If you can't pay, the hospital should be able to tell you to go home and die if you truly believe in free markets without regulation.
I have worked through the process, and I do not make factual assertions unless I know them to be true, unlike 95% of you here.
Same thing with my late neighbor. She developed lung cancer and also had no insurance. She didn't make much money so she opted for cash instead of her work insurance program.
They took good care of her and even provided transportation to and from the hospital for chemo treatments. Unfortunately, she didn't make it. She died a little over two years ago. But she willed her house to her son and nobody ever tried to take it from him or her.
. And the immoral party in which has the democrats name written all over it as well... No wait lets not fool ourselves by all this party verses party crap... How about just getting the bad out of both parties ? I mean it's not hard to know who that bad is, because it is the one trying to lead the parties off a cliff....But as we know, trial lawyers are big donors to the Democrat party come election time, so we will never see a law like that in the US.
As I've said before, you'll never get anything done unless you get rid of the corporate party....
If you own a home and sell it at a profit, you pay no capital gains taxes if it's the first time you sold a home. Houses you sell after the first one are held to capital gains taxation.
