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I didn't think the murder of a US Ambassador and three other Americans was very funny, but that that is just me.
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No 'Stand Down' Order In Benghazi, Despite What Darrell Issa Said
- Thread starter Lakhota
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Aren't cartoons supposed to be funny?
I didn't think the murder of a US Ambassador and three other Americans was very funny, but that that is just me.
reconmark
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What's your point? Do you think Obama gave the order to "stand down"?
No, his point is that, once again stupid conspiracy, hate Obama Reps have once again been shown to be clueless; and need to jump to another subject in order to try to salvage some sort of credibility.
All liberals have left is 'hate.' All you liberals do is claim hate or racism to try and salvage some sort of credibility.
Okay...so does that mean you'll now shut up and stop sending me "neg" reps???
No???..alrighty, continue to waste your time.
C_Clayton_Jones
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No 'Stand Down' Order In Benghazi, Despite What Darrell Issa Said
Correct.
And this fact has been known for some time now.
Of course conservatives will continue to try to keep this lie alive.
reconmark
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The only kind the liberals have left.
The most appropriate for many of the Reps on this board.
Why argue, when you choose to ignore the facts that the military has provided...you don't want to believe the facts, so, once again...
Little-Acorn
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No 'Stand Down' Order In Benghazi, Despite What Darrell Issa Said
Correct.
And this fact has been known for some time now.
Of course conservatives will continue to try to keep this lie alive.
This "lie"?
Who, exactly, is "lying"?
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I see the liberals are still frantically juggling words and parsing phrases, tryin to pretend we didn't let the personnel in Benghazi die when we could have helped.
"Stand Down" has a slightly different meaning from "No, don't go to where they are fighting, go back to your barracks and put away your equipment".
As if that difference had any real significance to what was going on.
But the liberals are screaming (as they did right after the actual events), "See?? See?? There WASN'T a "Stand Down" order!!! Not exactly!"
These people are quite sick.
Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks - CBS News
Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks
by Sharyl Attkisson/CBS News
May 6, 2013, 6:20 PM
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
U.S. diplomat contradicts White House on Benghazi
The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized. Hicks gave private testimony to congressional investigators last month in advance of his upcoming appearance at a congressional hearing Wednesday.
According to excerpts released Monday, Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound "when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it."
No assistance arrived from the U.S. military outside of Libya during the hours that Americans were under attack or trapped inside compounds by hostile forces armed with rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and AK-47 rifles.
Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour's flight from Libya.
Peach
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The testimony, the attackers were INSIDE the buildings, the team from Tripoli arrived:
As I remember Sept. 11th, 2012, it was a routine day at our embassy and — until we saw the news about Cairo. And I remember sending a text message to Ambassador Stevens saying, Chris, are you aware of what’s going on in Cairo? And he said, no. So I told him that the embassy in — in another text, that the embassy had been stormed and they were trying to tear down our flag. And he said, thanks very much. And, you know, then I went on with business.
Closed the day and I went back to my villa and was relaxing, watching a television show that I particularly like, and at 9:45 p.m. — and all times will be Libyan times, there’s a six-hour time difference — the RSO [Regional Security Officer], John Martinec, ran into my villa, yelling, Greg, Greg, the consulate’s under attack. And I stood up and reached for my phone because I had an inkling or a thought that perhaps the ambassador had tried to call me to relay the same message, and I found two missed calls on the phone, one from the ambassador’s phone, one from a phone number I didn’t recognize.
And I punched the phone number I didn’t recognize, and I got the ambassador on the other end, and he said, Greg, we’re under attack. And I was walking out of the villa on my way to the tactical operation center, because I knew we would all have to gather there to mobilize or try to mobilize a response. And it was also a bad cellphone night in Tripoli. Connections were weak. And I said OK, and the line cut. As I walked to the tactical operations center, I tried to reach back on both of the numbers, the unknown number and the ambassador’s personal number, and got no response.
David McFarland, our political section chief, had just returned from Benghazi, where he had been our principal officer for the previous 10 days. And so he jumped into this picture by reaching out to his contacts in Benghazi and trying to get them at the local level there to respond to the attack. And he also was in touch with our local employee there as well.
…..
The attack unfolded in four phases — or the night unfolded in four phases. The first phase was the attack on our consulate. The story is well known, I think. The Benghazi — the consulate was invaded. The Villa C where the ambassador and Sean Smith and Scott Wickland were hiding in the safe area was set on fire. The attackers also went into another — went into another building. They were unable to enter the tactical operations center in Benghazi because of improvements to that facility that had been made. They — Scott attempted to lead the ambassador and Sean Smith out of the burning building. He managed to make it out. He tried repeatedly to go back in to try to rescue Sean and the ambassador but had to stop due to exposure to smoke.
The response team from the annex in Benghazi, six individuals, drove the attackers out of our compound and secured it temporarily. There have been estimates as high as 60 attackers were in the compound at one particular time. There were repeated attempts by all of the RSOs and by the response team from the annex to go into the burning building and recover — or try to save Sean and the ambassador. They found Sean’s body and pulled it out, but he was no longer responsive. They did not find the ambassador.
I spoke with a medical officer, one of our medical officers, after the attack and the heroism of these individuals in repeatedly going into the petroleum-based fire cannot be understated. Petroleum — according to this — to our regional medical officer, petroleum- based fires emit enormous amounts of cyanide gas. And he told me that one full breath of that would incapacitate and kill a person if exposed to it.
The Tripoli response team departs at about midnight and arrives at about 1:15 in Benghazi. If I may step back again to Tripoli and what’s going on there at this point. At about 10:45 or 11:00, we confer and I asked the defense attache who’d been talking with AFRICOM and with the Joint Staff: Is anything coming? Will they be sending us any help? Is there something out there? And he answered that the nearest help was in Aviano, and the nearest — where there were fighter planes. And he said that it would take two to three hours for them to get on site, but that there also were no tankers available for them to refuel. And I said, thank you very much, and we went on with our work.
We’re getting this information as the Tripoli response team arrives in Benghazi at the airport. Both our annex chief and the annex chief in Benghazi, and our defense attache, are on the phone during this period, trying to get the Libyan government to send vehicles and military and/or security assets to the airport to assist our response team. At this point, this response team looks like it may be a hostage rescue team — that they are going to — we are going to need to send them to try to save the ambassador who is in a hospital that is, as far as we know, under enemy control.
Our contacts with the government in Tripoli are telling us that the ambassador is in a safe place, but they imply that he is with us in the annex in Benghazi. And we keep telling them, no, the — he is not with us. We do not have his — we do not have him. About 12:30, at the same time that we see the Twitter feeds that are asserting that Ansar Shariah is responsible for the attack, we also see a call for an attack on the embassy in Tripoli.
A few MINUTES after he spoke with sec. Clinton, a mortar round hit.
Thr Tripoli team had no transport from the airport.
As I remember Sept. 11th, 2012, it was a routine day at our embassy and — until we saw the news about Cairo. And I remember sending a text message to Ambassador Stevens saying, Chris, are you aware of what’s going on in Cairo? And he said, no. So I told him that the embassy in — in another text, that the embassy had been stormed and they were trying to tear down our flag. And he said, thanks very much. And, you know, then I went on with business.
Closed the day and I went back to my villa and was relaxing, watching a television show that I particularly like, and at 9:45 p.m. — and all times will be Libyan times, there’s a six-hour time difference — the RSO [Regional Security Officer], John Martinec, ran into my villa, yelling, Greg, Greg, the consulate’s under attack. And I stood up and reached for my phone because I had an inkling or a thought that perhaps the ambassador had tried to call me to relay the same message, and I found two missed calls on the phone, one from the ambassador’s phone, one from a phone number I didn’t recognize.
And I punched the phone number I didn’t recognize, and I got the ambassador on the other end, and he said, Greg, we’re under attack. And I was walking out of the villa on my way to the tactical operation center, because I knew we would all have to gather there to mobilize or try to mobilize a response. And it was also a bad cellphone night in Tripoli. Connections were weak. And I said OK, and the line cut. As I walked to the tactical operations center, I tried to reach back on both of the numbers, the unknown number and the ambassador’s personal number, and got no response.
David McFarland, our political section chief, had just returned from Benghazi, where he had been our principal officer for the previous 10 days. And so he jumped into this picture by reaching out to his contacts in Benghazi and trying to get them at the local level there to respond to the attack. And he also was in touch with our local employee there as well.
…..
The attack unfolded in four phases — or the night unfolded in four phases. The first phase was the attack on our consulate. The story is well known, I think. The Benghazi — the consulate was invaded. The Villa C where the ambassador and Sean Smith and Scott Wickland were hiding in the safe area was set on fire. The attackers also went into another — went into another building. They were unable to enter the tactical operations center in Benghazi because of improvements to that facility that had been made. They — Scott attempted to lead the ambassador and Sean Smith out of the burning building. He managed to make it out. He tried repeatedly to go back in to try to rescue Sean and the ambassador but had to stop due to exposure to smoke.
The response team from the annex in Benghazi, six individuals, drove the attackers out of our compound and secured it temporarily. There have been estimates as high as 60 attackers were in the compound at one particular time. There were repeated attempts by all of the RSOs and by the response team from the annex to go into the burning building and recover — or try to save Sean and the ambassador. They found Sean’s body and pulled it out, but he was no longer responsive. They did not find the ambassador.
I spoke with a medical officer, one of our medical officers, after the attack and the heroism of these individuals in repeatedly going into the petroleum-based fire cannot be understated. Petroleum — according to this — to our regional medical officer, petroleum- based fires emit enormous amounts of cyanide gas. And he told me that one full breath of that would incapacitate and kill a person if exposed to it.
The Tripoli response team departs at about midnight and arrives at about 1:15 in Benghazi. If I may step back again to Tripoli and what’s going on there at this point. At about 10:45 or 11:00, we confer and I asked the defense attache who’d been talking with AFRICOM and with the Joint Staff: Is anything coming? Will they be sending us any help? Is there something out there? And he answered that the nearest help was in Aviano, and the nearest — where there were fighter planes. And he said that it would take two to three hours for them to get on site, but that there also were no tankers available for them to refuel. And I said, thank you very much, and we went on with our work.
We’re getting this information as the Tripoli response team arrives in Benghazi at the airport. Both our annex chief and the annex chief in Benghazi, and our defense attache, are on the phone during this period, trying to get the Libyan government to send vehicles and military and/or security assets to the airport to assist our response team. At this point, this response team looks like it may be a hostage rescue team — that they are going to — we are going to need to send them to try to save the ambassador who is in a hospital that is, as far as we know, under enemy control.
Our contacts with the government in Tripoli are telling us that the ambassador is in a safe place, but they imply that he is with us in the annex in Benghazi. And we keep telling them, no, the — he is not with us. We do not have his — we do not have him. About 12:30, at the same time that we see the Twitter feeds that are asserting that Ansar Shariah is responsible for the attack, we also see a call for an attack on the embassy in Tripoli.
A few MINUTES after he spoke with sec. Clinton, a mortar round hit.
Thr Tripoli team had no transport from the airport.
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tinydancer
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No 'Stand Down' Order In Benghazi, Despite What Darrell Issa Said
Correct.
And this fact has been known for some time now.
Of course conservatives will continue to try to keep this lie alive.
This "lie"?
Who, exactly, is "lying"?
------------------------------------------------
I see the liberals are still frantically juggling words and parsing phrases, tryin to pretend we didn't let the personnel in Benghazi die when we could have helped.
"Stand Down" has a slightly different meaning from "No, don't go to where they are fighting, go back to your barracks and put away your equipment".
As if that difference had any real significance to what was going on.
But the liberals are screaming (as they did right after the actual events), "See?? See?? There WASN'T a "Stand Down" order!!! Not exactly!"
These people are quite sick.
Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks - CBS News
Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks
by Sharyl Attkisson/CBS News
May 6, 2013, 6:20 PM
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
U.S. diplomat contradicts White House on Benghazi
The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized. Hicks gave private testimony to congressional investigators last month in advance of his upcoming appearance at a congressional hearing Wednesday.
According to excerpts released Monday, Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound "when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it."
No assistance arrived from the U.S. military outside of Libya during the hours that Americans were under attack or trapped inside compounds by hostile forces armed with rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and AK-47 rifles.
Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour's flight from Libya.
I think what the left is trying to do is to pin everything on one person in command actually saying the words This is an order to stand down.
If no one actually gave an official order to stand down then they can claim that they are off the hook.
But that boat don't float. Not in my world.
tinydancer
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What really happened? An order was given "to remain in place". So no one said officially you can't go; they were ordered to remain in place.
What's the fucking difference??????????????????????????????????????????????
Pardon my french but I really detest it when the left plays word games.
The senior military officer who issued the instruction to "remain in place" and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.
AP News in Brief at 5:58 p.m. EDT - People Wires - MiamiHerald.com
What's the fucking difference??????????????????????????????????????????????
Pardon my french but I really detest it when the left plays word games.
The senior military officer who issued the instruction to "remain in place" and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.
AP News in Brief at 5:58 p.m. EDT - People Wires - MiamiHerald.com
Peach
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More actual testimony, no stand down order, the mortar hit withing MINUTES of Hicks speaking with Sec. Clinton:
First mortar round was long. It landed, actually, among the Libyans who escorted our people. They took casualties from us that night. And the next was short. The next three landed on the roof, killing Glen and Tyrone, severely wounding David. They didnt know whether any more mortars were going to come in. The accuracy was terribly precise. The call was, the next one is coming through the roof, maybe, if it hit.
.
In Tripoli, we had the defense attache had persuaded the Libyans to fly their C-130 to Benghazi. We wanted to airlift we had since we had consolidated at the annex, and the Libyan government had now provided us with external security around our facilities, we wanted to send further reinforcements to Benghazi. We determined that Lt. Colonel Gibson and his team of special forces troops should go. The people in Benghazi had been fighting all night. They were tired. They were exhausted. We wanted to make sure the airport was secure for their withdrawal.
As Colonel Gibson and his three personnel were getting in the cars, he stopped, and he called them off and said told me that he had not been authorized to go.
The vehicles had to go because the flight needed to go to Tripoli I mean, to Benghazi. Lieutenant Colonel Gibson was furious. I had told him to go bring our people home. Thats what he wanted to do. Paid me a very nice compliment; I wont repeat it here. So the plane went. I think it landed in Benghazi around 7:30.
The other thing that we did was and I and I want to mention Jackie Levesques (sp) name in this hearing. She was our nurse.
I knew David was severely wounded and I knew others were wounded as well. And Jackie had just made terrific contacts with a hospital in town, and so we sent her I sent her to that hospital to start mobilizing their ER teams and their doctors to receive our wounded so that when the charter flight arrived in Tripoli we had ambulances at the at the at the airport waiting. Their doctors were ready and waiting for our wounded to come in, to be brought into the operating room. And they certainly saved David Ubbens leg and they may very well have saved his life. And they treated our other wounded as well, as if they were their own.
First mortar round was long. It landed, actually, among the Libyans who escorted our people. They took casualties from us that night. And the next was short. The next three landed on the roof, killing Glen and Tyrone, severely wounding David. They didnt know whether any more mortars were going to come in. The accuracy was terribly precise. The call was, the next one is coming through the roof, maybe, if it hit.
.
In Tripoli, we had the defense attache had persuaded the Libyans to fly their C-130 to Benghazi. We wanted to airlift we had since we had consolidated at the annex, and the Libyan government had now provided us with external security around our facilities, we wanted to send further reinforcements to Benghazi. We determined that Lt. Colonel Gibson and his team of special forces troops should go. The people in Benghazi had been fighting all night. They were tired. They were exhausted. We wanted to make sure the airport was secure for their withdrawal.
As Colonel Gibson and his three personnel were getting in the cars, he stopped, and he called them off and said told me that he had not been authorized to go.
The vehicles had to go because the flight needed to go to Tripoli I mean, to Benghazi. Lieutenant Colonel Gibson was furious. I had told him to go bring our people home. Thats what he wanted to do. Paid me a very nice compliment; I wont repeat it here. So the plane went. I think it landed in Benghazi around 7:30.
The other thing that we did was and I and I want to mention Jackie Levesques (sp) name in this hearing. She was our nurse.
I knew David was severely wounded and I knew others were wounded as well. And Jackie had just made terrific contacts with a hospital in town, and so we sent her I sent her to that hospital to start mobilizing their ER teams and their doctors to receive our wounded so that when the charter flight arrived in Tripoli we had ambulances at the at the at the airport waiting. Their doctors were ready and waiting for our wounded to come in, to be brought into the operating room. And they certainly saved David Ubbens leg and they may very well have saved his life. And they treated our other wounded as well, as if they were their own.
Peach
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No stand order, the Tripoli team was at the airport, no escape means; Buck McKeon has been sitting on the evidence since April.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations. The subcommittee held a classified briefing with Col. Gibson; retired Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, former commander of U.S. Africa Command; and Navy Rear Adm. Brian L. Losey, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
Read more: Lawmakers: No 'stand down' order given in Benghazi attack - Washington Times
McKeon needs to be tossed out of the US House, millions have been spent because of his obstruction, the families of the those killed suffer continued agony.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations. The subcommittee held a classified briefing with Col. Gibson; retired Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, former commander of U.S. Africa Command; and Navy Rear Adm. Brian L. Losey, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
Read more: Lawmakers: No 'stand down' order given in Benghazi attack - Washington Times
McKeon needs to be tossed out of the US House, millions have been spent because of his obstruction, the families of the those killed suffer continued agony.
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Lakhota
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No stand order, the Tripoli team was at the airport, no escape means; Buck McKeon has been sitting on the evidence since April.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations. The subcommittee held a classified briefing with Col. Gibson; retired Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, former commander of U.S. Africa Command; and Navy Rear Adm. Brian L. Losey, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
Read more: Lawmakers: No 'stand down' order given in Benghazi attack - Washington Times
McKeon needs to be tossed out of the US House, millions have been spent because of his obstruction, the families of the those killed suffer continued agony.
These facts just further prove what a despicable partisan witch hunt Benghazi has been - and continues to be.
BlindBoo
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Let's say that it's true there was no stand down order. That doesn't explain why the Obama administration didn't send anyone to help them. I don't know what "conspiracy theorists" will look for, but those of us with critical minds want to know why we didn't send them help, which this doesn't answer, and why the Obama administration impeded an investigation into the matter, which this doesn't matter for either.
The CIA launched a rescue attempt on the building within 25-30 minutes of the initial assault.
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf
Did their choppers get lost in a desert sandstorm? Where were they for the hours between the request for help and the death of the people in the consulate? Don't give me an 85 page government document, I've read too many of those already.
No choppers were involved. They drove in SUV's. They drove the attackers off and searched the building for survivors. Then they abandoned the building leaving only the ambassador unaccounted for. They assumed he had been abducted because they searched the entire building. In reality two people were dead by the time the CIA team was sent in. Afterward they all went to the CIA compound and waited for the team sent from Tripoli which arrived about 1 A.M. It took another 3 hour for them to make their way from the airport to the Annex. When they arrived two security officers were killed while on the roof of one of the buildings during a mortar attack. Those attackers were driven off by the Libyan militia sent to escort the Tripoli team across the city.
There you have it. Two separate teams sent to help. At least that is what the US Senate concluded.
healthmyths
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The testimony of nine military officers undermines contentions by Republican lawmakers that a "stand-down order" held back military assets that could have saved the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans killed at a diplomatic outpost and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.
The "stand-down" theory centers on a Special Operations team of four — a detachment leader, a medic, a communications expert and a weapons operator with his foot in a cast — who were stopped from flying from Tripoli to Benghazi after the attacks of Sept. 11-12, 2012, had ended. Instead, they were instructed to help protect and care for those being evacuated from Benghazi and from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.
The senior military officer who issued the instruction to "remain in place" and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.
Transcripts of hours of closed-door interviews with the military leaders by the House Armed Services and Oversight and Government Reform committees were made public for the first time on Wednesday. The Associated Press had reviewed the material ahead of its release.
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the Oversight panel, has suggested Hillary Rodham Clinton gave the order, though as secretary of state at the time, she was not in the military chain of command.
MORE: No 'Stand Down' Order In Benghazi, Despite What Darrell Issa Said
Well, that's good enough for me. Will these facts from military leaders stop the Benghazi conspiracy theorists? I doubt it...
Earlier this month, Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress there was never a stand-down order.
"They weren't told to stand down. A 'stand down' means don't do anything," he said.
"They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport."
Former US commander in Libya denies Army unit told to stand down during Benghazi attack.
http://www.neurope.eu/news/wire/for...y-unit-told-stand-down-during-benghazi-attack
Of course there never was a STAND DOWN Order because they were ordered to perform the mission in Tripoli NOT BENGHAZI!
WHY????
Because to admit Benghazi was a terrorist planned attack would be detrimental to the re-election campaign that used slogans like this: "Osama dead, GM alive"
President Barack Obama has described al Qaeda as having been “decimated,” “on the path to defeat” or some other variation at least 32 times since the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, according to White House transcripts.
This comes despite Libyan President Mohamed Yousef El-Magarief, members of Congress, an administration spokesperson, and several press reports suggesting that al Qaeda played a role in the attack.
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auditor0007
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Well, that's good enough for me. Will these facts from military leaders stop the Benghazi conspiracy theorists? I doubt it...
Let's say that it's true there was no stand down order. That doesn't explain why the Obama administration didn't send anyone to help them. I don't know what "conspiracy theorists" will look for, but those of us with critical minds want to know why we didn't send them help, which this doesn't answer, and why the Obama administration impeded an investigation into the matter, which this doesn't matter for either.
The more that is coming out on this, the more it looks like Republicans have been making shit up just to destroy Hillary and the President. This is not going to sit well with the American public when this all comes out. I am so sick of all the lies from the right.
No stand order, the Tripoli team was at the airport, no escape means; Buck McKeon has been sitting on the evidence since April.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations. The subcommittee held a classified briefing with Col. Gibson; retired Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, former commander of U.S. Africa Command; and Navy Rear Adm. Brian L. Losey, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
Read more: Lawmakers: No 'stand down' order given in Benghazi attack - Washington Times
McKeon needs to be tossed out of the US House, millions have been spent because of his obstruction, the families of the those killed suffer continued agony.
What needs to be determined is why there was on response by the US military. A Consulate is under attack and they didn't even try. If we had a real President he would have given the military the order to rescue the Ambassador immediately. His inability to issue that order is the same damned thing as giving a stand down order.
As an aside, the fake President calls and congratulates soccer players, gay football players and actors, but could not be bothered to call the parents of the Seals that were murdered in Benghazi.
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No stand order, the Tripoli team was at the airport, no escape means; Buck McKeon has been sitting on the evidence since April.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations. The subcommittee held a classified briefing with Col. Gibson; retired Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, former commander of U.S. Africa Command; and Navy Rear Adm. Brian L. Losey, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
Read more: Lawmakers: No 'stand down' order given in Benghazi attack - Washington Times
McKeon needs to be tossed out of the US House, millions have been spent because of his obstruction, the families of the those killed suffer continued agony.
What needs to be determined is why there was on response by the US military. A Consulate is under attack and they didn't even try. If we had a real President he would have given the military the order to rescue the Ambassador immediately. His inability to issue that order is the same damned thing as giving a stand down order.
As an aside, the fake President calls and congratulates soccer players, gay football players and actors, but could not be bothered to call the parents of the Seals that were murdered in Benghazi.
They chose to protect the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli instead with the available resources. It ain't rocket science. Read and learn...
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