NO to Pipeline Across Nebraska!

[boilermaker55]

NO to Pipeline Across Nebraska!
If the state of Nebraska refuses to allow the pipeline with in the boundaries of the state and others follow this train of thought what happens?
Is it a states issue or a national issue?
Should the country risk the possible contamination of the aquifer that feeds so many people?

 

[Edgetho]

Supremacy Clause.

Look it up.

 

[buckeye45_73]

They never give up. Liberal hate progress, but call themselves progressive, ironic, no?

 

[Little-Acorn]

U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Sec. 8:

"The Congress shall have the power... to regulate commerce... among the several states..."

Sorry, Nebraska. The way they are interpreting that nowadays, if they want to order the pipeline put in to carry oil or gas from north to south, you don't have any say. Just lie back and enjoy it.

(That sounds highly dictatorial, of course, and probably isn't what the Framers had in mind. But what they WROTE and ratified, takes precedence over what they had in mind.)

 

[martybegan]

U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Sec. 8:

"The Congress shall have the power... to regulate commerce... among the several states..."

Sorry, Nebraska. The way they are interpreting that nowadays, if they want to order the pipeline put in to garry oil or gas from north to south, you don't have any say. Just lie back and enjoy it.

(That sounds highly dictatorial, of course, and probably isn't what the Framers had in mind. But what they WROTE and ratified, takes precedence over what they had in mind.)

The state and the owners of the land get compensated for it, if eminent domain is required. Its not sit there and take it.

If states could prevent trans-shipment of critical goods to each other Nebraska would be fucked if all the states around it "decided" they didn't want oil trucks or train cars to pass through them on their way to Nebraska. Being landlocked sucks.

 

[Avatar4321]

Pretty big if.

Federal Government has power over interestate commerce. This actually falls within that authority (Nice for a change). If the Federal Govenrment passes a law supporting it, Supremacy clause prevents Nebraska from doing a thing about it.

 

[tinydancer]

You're a tad too late sparky

 

[tinydancer]

Let's see. Nebraska. The state that doesn't want any pipeline to cross it.

 

[Pete7469]

They never give up. Liberal hate progress, but call themselves progressive, ironic, no?

I don't call libtards "progressives".

Bed Wetter is a much more appropriate term.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The state and the owners of the land get compensated for it, if eminent domain is required. Its not sit there and take it.

If eminent domain is used by a government to put the pipeline into place, then "Sit there and take it" is exactly what it is. You don't have a choice. The government will decide where the pipeline goes, and when, and on whose land, and how much those people will be paid for it. And if they don't like it, tough.

That's why Eminent Domain is such an odious, albeit necessary, power.

 

[Little-Acorn]

It does bring up an interesting question, though. Is the pipeline owned by the government? Or will it be owned by one or more non-government companies?

If by the latter, then Eminent Domain cannot be used. The mistaken "Kelo v. New London" decision was an unexplained travesty, almost as bad as the Obamacare decision. The Constitution clearly refers to "private property taken for public use", and says that just compensation is required. But if it's being taken for the purpose of a non-public group (like a corporation or other company), then the Constitution gives the govt NO power to take it, whether compensated for or not.

The Supreme Court pretending that the Constitution does give such power for use by a non-public group such as a corporation or other company, does not change the Constitution and make it true.

 

[martybegan]

It does bring up an interesting question, though. Is the pipeline owned by the government? Or will it be owned by one or more non-government companies?

If by the latter, then Eminent Domain cannot be used. The mistaken "Kelo v. New London" decision was an unexplained travesty, almost as bad as the Obamacare decision. The Constitution clearly refers to "private property taken for public use", and says that just compensation is required. But if it's being taken for the purpose of a non-public group (like a corporation or other company), then the Constitution gives the govt NO power to take it, whether compensated for or not.

Its easy to get around. the land is owned by the government but leased to a private entity or authority to run the pipeline through said land.

 

[candycorn]

I've driven through Nebraska....it could use a change.

Just build the darn thing...

 

[Little-Acorn]

Its easy to get around. the land is owned by the government but leased to a private entity or authority to run the pipeline through said land.

If the government owns the land as you say, then the people of Nebraska are SOL. Says so right in the Constitution.

That's repellent, but it's the law.

 

[martybegan]

Its easy to get around. the land is owned by the government but leased to a private entity or authority to run the pipeline through said land.

If the government owns the land as you say, then the people of Nebraska are SOL. Says so right in the Constitution.

That's repellent, but it's the law.

The people of Nebraska should realize their own fuel supplies require shipment through other states, them being landlocked and not able to produce enough fuel for their own use.

Why should poor poor Iowans suffer the potential pollution of spilled oil from all those trucks, barges, or rail tankers?

 

[boilermaker55]

what a juvenile. Typical of you.

They never give up. Liberal hate progress, but call themselves progressive, ironic, no?

 

[boilermaker55]

You inability to think is sure highlighted by your total ignorant remark.

They never give up. Liberal hate progress, but call themselves progressive, ironic, no?

I don't call libtards "progressives".

Bed Wetter is a much more appropriate term.

 

[buckeye45_73]

what a juvenile. Typical of you.

They never give up. Liberal hate progress, but call themselves progressive, ironic, no?

wow great response, i stand by my post and yors doesnt refute mine

 

[OKTexas]

NO to Pipeline Across Nebraska!
If the state of Nebraska refuses to allow the pipeline with in the boundaries of the state and others follow this train of thought what happens?
Is it a states issue or a national issue?
Should the country risk the possible contamination of the aquifer that feeds so many people?

This is just some PAC that objects to the pipeline, nothing official. But rest assured that if the State of Nebraska says no there is nothing the feds can do to compel it. The feds have no eminent domain over the States.

 

[OnePercenter]

U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Sec. 8:

"The Congress shall have the power... to regulate commerce... among the several states..."

Sorry, Nebraska. The way they are interpreting that nowadays, if they want to order the pipeline put in to carry oil or gas from north to south, you don't have any say. Just lie back and enjoy it.

(That sounds highly dictatorial, of course, and probably isn't what the Framers had in mind. But what they WROTE and ratified, takes precedence over what they had in mind.)

Another reason to vote out Republicans.