Noah's Ark with two of EVERY animal

[frigidweirdo]

Living "FLESH." Do you know what Flesh means? Reading Comprehension sometimes...

Enlighten me then, because I don't really get your argument here.

 

[WinterBorn]

I believe it is history. Yes, there is morality teaching in them as one would expect in the Bible. But, there is no reason not to believe everything that happened in the Bible didn't. It did!

"But, there is no reason not to believe everything that happened in the Bible didn't."??

You mean other than it being physically impossible on a number of levels?

 

[Leo123]

In the Bible, Genesis 6:9 - 9:17 it says:

"And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female."

So, they put two of every species on the ark.

Like sharks, fish, jellyfish....

How on EARTH did fish, and jellyfish and sharks survive on the ark for 40 days and 40 nights?

It's a story of an actual event. We are relying on someone's interpretation of the event. It could have even be a local event and not a global event.

This quote from the Book of Genesis is part of a familiar tale — the story of Noah's flood. Scholars have known for a long time that the Bible isn't the only place this story is found — in fact, the biblical story is similar to a much older Mesopotamian flood story in the epic of Gilgamesh. Scholars usually attribute things like the worldwide occurrence of flood stories to common human experiences and our love of repeating good stories, but recently scientists have started to uncover evidence that Noah's flood may have a basis in some rather astonishing events that took place around the Black Sea some 7,500 years ago.

Evidence for a Flood

Sediment layers suggest that 7,500 years ago Mediterranean water roared into the Black Sea

www.smithsonianmag.com

Remember, at that time, the earth was not what we know it is now. These are accounts of events witnessed by people in many known at that time local areas. The event was apparently fairly widespread.

 

[Woodznutz]

And you know this because..... wait, because you made it up. This ISN'T what the Bible says. So are you saying the Bible is WRONG?

It's what my bible says.

 

[petro]

In the Bible, Genesis 6:9 - 9:17 it says:

"And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female."

So, they put two of every species on the ark.

Like sharks, fish, jellyfish....

How on EARTH did fish, and jellyfish and sharks survive on the ark for 40 days and 40 nights?

It was a flood.
They didn't need an Ark.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's what my bible says.

So your Bible is wrong then?

 

[frigidweirdo]

It was a flood.
They didn't need an Ark.

Yeah, that's MY POINT.

Why would the Bible say ALL ANIMALS when not all animals needed the ark?

 

[Woodznutz]

So your Bible is wrong then?

KJV says that God sent only birds and ground dwelling critters to Noah, no fish.

 

[Woodznutz]

dp

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah, that's MY POINT.

Why would the Bible say ALL ANIMALS when not all animals needed the ark?

It means all the animals it was referring to, those that dwell on the dry ground (which actually includes birds). God also selected those animals for posterity i.e seed. Many went extinct in the flood waters. That's why Noah was able to care for those on the ark.

 

[frigidweirdo]

KJV says that God sent only birds and ground dwelling critters to Noah, no fish.

It says "two and two of all flesh," fish is flesh.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It means all the animals it was referring to, those that dwell on the dry ground (which actually includes birds). God also selected those animals for posterity i.e seed. Many went extinct in the flood waters. That's why Noah was able to care for those on the ark.

Oh, "it means".... ah. I got it. When the Bible says something that is inconvenient, it actually means SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT SAYS.

Wow, amazing.

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh, "it means".... ah. I got it. When the Bible says something that is inconvenient, it actually means SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT SAYS.

Wow, amazing.

That's why the Bible has to be studied, not merely read. For example do you think that Eve merely "gave" the forbidden fruit to Adam, and he blithely gobbled it down? Study the account and see if another word might have been more suitable. Then ask yourself why the translator chose that word instead of a better one.

Do a word search of various Hebrew words. Notice that most have a laundry list of meanings to choose from, depending on the context.

 

[surada]

If that were the case, the dominant factions would have left the others out. They both are from different 'voices' and serve different goals.

King Omri was on a mission to reunite Israel and Judah. Thats why he put both stories together.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That's why the Bible has to be studied, not merely read.

You have to study it to find out the inconsistencies and then you can make stuff up to justify those inconsistencies, right?

 

[Woodznutz]

You have to study it to find out the inconsistencies and then you can make stuff up to justify those inconsistencies, right?

You have to study it to understand it. Of course God has to grant you the understanding through the Holy Spirit. Without it the bible is foolishness to you.

 

[surada]

It's a story of an actual event. We are relying on someone's interpretation of the event. It could have even be a local event and not a global event.

This quote from the Book of Genesis is part of a familiar tale — the story of Noah's flood. Scholars have known for a long time that the Bible isn't the only place this story is found — in fact, the biblical story is similar to a much older Mesopotamian flood story in the epic of Gilgamesh. Scholars usually attribute things like the worldwide occurrence of flood stories to common human experiences and our love of repeating good stories, but recently scientists have started to uncover evidence that Noah's flood may have a basis in some rather astonishing events that took place around the Black Sea some 7,500 years ago.

Evidence for a Flood

Sediment layers suggest that 7,500 years ago Mediterranean water roared into the Black Sea

www.smithsonianmag.com

Remember, at that time, the earth was not what we know it is now. These are accounts of events witnessed by people in many known at that time local areas. The event was apparently fairly widespread.

The Black Sea flood was very slow moving. The water rose so slowly that people had plenty of time to move families, livestock and tools to higher ground.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Black Sea flood was very slow moving. The water rose so slowly that people had plenty of time to move families, livestock and tools to higher ground.

Noah's flood was slow moving as well. That's why the waters covered the hills to a depth of 22 feet. Most lived on the plains however and had no chance to outrun the flood.

 

[surada]

You have to study it to find out the inconsistencies and then you can make stuff up to justify those inconsistencies, right?

Nope. I don't think we should change scripture. Let it stand as it is. Don't change Hosea or Isiah or Ezekiel. Don't take verses out of context. Don't give Revelation a new time line or change the audience.

 

[surada]

Noah's flood was slow moving as well. That's why the waters covered the hills to a depth of 22 feet. Most lived on the plains however and had no chance to outrun the flood.

Canaan is hill country. Some guy claimed the flood water came in as ocean tides. If that was true, the Ark would have turned over on it's side. See why you don't change scripture?