now the NRA is under the RUSSIA umbrella investigation

Should the Clinton's be punished for accepting foreign money?
Should the NRA?

please try to control your Clinton Tourettes Syndrome in threads not about the Clintons. Thanks.
legitimate question, why can't you answer? oh right left.
Did they do something illegal?
they did the same thing as the people under investigation and suspicion. you tell me.
So you are babbling out your ass. Got it. Stop wasting my time with your delusions.
and here I so thought you enjoyed hypocrisy
 
russian bots working through the leftist demolosers. who's investigating who for a point on russia? LOL, you can't even see the water in front of you.
seems she sees it just fine.

70k join to troll a group bringing up diametrically opposite points to do nothing but rile up said group of like minds.

it's exactly what the russian troll farm did to us all. had nothing to do with trump and helping him win elections but making us turn on ourselves by pretending to be "us" of another mindset when all they're doing is dumping gas on a fire and watching us burn each other up.

republicans, democrats, indie and the like - we're all getting the shit trolled out of us and we keep blaming each other - letting them win again.

and again.

and again.

sooner or later you'd think we'd stop reacting to their shit.
I merely discuss actual facts. no innuendo
fact - russians are trolling the shit out of us
fact - we're blaming each other for it
fact - 70k join a facebook group in a day, they're bots.

i do think overall we agree just seeing it a bit differently on the way however. all good.
well there is the NRA thing and the 2nd amendment thing, and the immigration thing that separates us. Are you saying that's russia as well?
no - i'm saying 70k people coming into a group to shout YOU SUCK are 69.9k bots. 69.8k likely russian these days.

anything else and you're reading too much into what i'm saying.

you have a PRO NRA group and 60k people jump in to say YOU GUN OWNERS SUCK, that's not 60k actual people forming a mass online facebook protest of the group, that's a shitload of bots attacking people spouting pre-written statements designed to do nothing but piss off the people there and make them "hate" the other side and scream at them while all the time they're screaming at a speaker, not a microphone or person. the speaker doesn't care, it just keeps shouting out whatever its told to play.

but it does play into generalities and our desire to tell stupid people how stupid they are and people react. human nature. they count on it, feed off of it, and we give it to 'em and the trolls win while we blame each other for our own actions.

Yup. Facebook 2A groups are getting the shit trolled out of them by people who work as educators and computer geeks in commie shitholes like Eugina and Barfley and Squattle (btw Seattle is FULL of google ppl..real and imaginary)..who are sending as much information to Russian bot masters as fast as they can.

I watched a fb group go from 1000 to 70,000 a week. And suddenly there were *teachers* from Eugene who were *pro-NRA* who were posting garbage about how the NRA is attacking the 21 and colluding with Russia pffffffttt

I might have already posted that but I'm still disgusted.

Thinking about dumping facebook altogether.
 
seems she sees it just fine.

70k join to troll a group bringing up diametrically opposite points to do nothing but rile up said group of like minds.

it's exactly what the russian troll farm did to us all. had nothing to do with trump and helping him win elections but making us turn on ourselves by pretending to be "us" of another mindset when all they're doing is dumping gas on a fire and watching us burn each other up.

republicans, democrats, indie and the like - we're all getting the shit trolled out of us and we keep blaming each other - letting them win again.

and again.

and again.

sooner or later you'd think we'd stop reacting to their shit.
I merely discuss actual facts. no innuendo
fact - russians are trolling the shit out of us
fact - we're blaming each other for it
fact - 70k join a facebook group in a day, they're bots.

i do think overall we agree just seeing it a bit differently on the way however. all good.
well there is the NRA thing and the 2nd amendment thing, and the immigration thing that separates us. Are you saying that's russia as well?
no - i'm saying 70k people coming into a group to shout YOU SUCK are 69.9k bots. 69.8k likely russian these days.

anything else and you're reading too much into what i'm saying.

you have a PRO NRA group and 60k people jump in to say YOU GUN OWNERS SUCK, that's not 60k actual people forming a mass online facebook protest of the group, that's a shitload of bots attacking people spouting pre-written statements designed to do nothing but piss off the people there and make them "hate" the other side and scream at them while all the time they're screaming at a speaker, not a microphone or person. the speaker doesn't care, it just keeps shouting out whatever its told to play.

but it does play into generalities and our desire to tell stupid people how stupid they are and people react. human nature. they count on it, feed off of it, and we give it to 'em and the trolls win while we blame each other for our own actions.

Yup. Facebook 2A groups are getting the shit trolled out of them by people who work as educators and computer geeks in commie shitholes like Eugina and Barfley and Squattle (btw Seattle is FULL of google ppl..real and imaginary)..who are sending as much information to Russian bot masters as fast as they can.

I watched a fb group go from 1000 to 70,000 a week. And suddenly there were *teachers* from Eugene who were *pro-NRA* who were posting garbage about how the NRA is attacking the 21 and colluding with Russia pffffffttt

I might have already posted that but I'm still disgusted.

Thinking about dumping facebook altogether.
many people are. my radio page has lost 10 likes in the last week from people just deactivating or removing their account.
 
The dems just said "due process is killing us" and wanted it gone completely.
But the Republicans said, "
Who do you need to worry about?
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The dems just said "due process is killing us" and wanted it gone completely.

Manchin: Due process is 'killing us right now' in gun debate

Wanna keep playing?
And the Republicans say women should just relax and enjoy rape.

I'm not sure you want to get into a "stupid-off", bro...
You are confused. Dems for Bill say women should just relax and enjoy rape.

Please come up with one woman who said Clinton raped her other than Anita Broaddrick. Her accusation was coerced by the threat of a perjury charge.

It was JUANITA Broaddrick, genius. Add to that the names of

Kathleen Willey – Sexual Assault
Connie Hamzy – Sexual Harassment
Eileen Wellstone– Sexual Assault
Sandra Allen James– Sexual Assault
Christy Zercher– Sexual Assault
22 Year-Old Yale Student – Sexual Assault
University of Arkansas Student – Sexual Assault
Paula Jones – Sexual Harrassment,. Character Assassination. Clinton settled that case for $850,000.
Monica Lewinsky – Character Assassination
Gennifer Flowers – Character Assassination
Elizabeth (Ward) Gracen – Extramarital One night stand
Dolly Kyle Browning – Extramarital Affair in 1992
Sally Perdue – Extramarital Affair
Lencola Sullivan – Extramarital Affair
Elizabeth Ward – Extramarital Affair
Susie Whitacre – Extramarital Office Affair
Bobbie Ann William – Extramarital Affair


And to think this is the "icon" of the democratic party, whose wife was party to it all, road it all the way to the White House, and they claim a few tawdry associations ALLEGED against Trump is an embarrassment to the world? You people make me laugh. :finger3: :laughing0301: :mm: :thankusmile:


Harvey Weinstein has his life ruined for doing less than what Bill Clinton did and is still carried on the shoulders of you liberals living in a mansion.

Hillary Clinton knew a lot about it as she while he was President tried hard to keep women away from him including Monica Lewinsky.
 
If there’s evidence that they took illegal campaign donations, then they should be investigated. They can add it to the hundreds of other investigations that found nothing.

....just like Hillary was investigated and indicted for 'BUYING' the DNC and using donations meant for other candidates on HER campaign...? :p
:rolleyes:

Hillary was the candidate that fund raised for the DNC and put millions in to the DNC coffers....

please stop with your BS!
 
The NRA is not a campaign organization.

How the NRA Exerts Influence Beyond Political Contributions - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../nra-s-political-influence-far-goes-beyond-campaign-con...
Jun 15, 2016 - Here are other ways the NRA – or similar political groups – can influence politics. ... TheNRA's campaign contributions to individual federal candidates are well-documented, with each contribution limited to $2,700 per cycle to each ... Here are other ways the NRA plays a role in policy andpolitics:.

NRA's Role In Connecting Trump Campaign With Russians Is Under ...
www.newsweek.com/nra-trump-russia-senate-investigation-torshin-726656
Nov 29, 2017 - Letters to Trump campaign associates ask them to turn over "all documents concerning the NRA."

How the NRA wields its influence - CNN - CNN.com

How the NRA wields its influence - CNN
Jan 10, 2013 - No new gun laws. The NRA has made its position clear, even in the wake of America's most recent gun debate. Here's a look at how it has accomplished that.

US gun control: What is the NRA and why is it so powerful? - BBC News
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35261394
Jan 8, 2016 - It is the most powerful single player in one of the most hotly-debated issues in the world - US gun control - but what exactly is the NRA?

The NRA's Reported Ties to Russia, In a Timeline - The Trace
The NRA’s Reported Ties to Russia, In a Timeline
Jan 19, 2018 - The FBI is investigating whether Moscow illegally funneled campaign funds to the gun group, according to a bombshell news report. ... on the matter. Here's what's known about Moscow's courtship of the NRA, and the NRA's subsequent role as a venue for Russian overtures to the Trump campaign.
 
So, diverting to Bill was a reminder about stereotypes? Ok then...
no. this was.

"So, you do not see any difference between an open public discussion and a closed door meeting in the Oval Office.

No wonder you are a Repub"


you bag on people and call them REPUB for a closed door meeting when obviously it's NOT a REPUB problem but an asshole problem. you're back to your need to stereotype and pigeonhole people on things that both sides are heavily guilty of. you keep doing it i'll keep showing instances where you are wrong.

And you have reverted to your reading issues. The problem was not the closed door meeting it was the inability to comprehend why one is different than the other.


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and I asked what is the difference?
And I told you, but you conveniently ignored the post....comrade.
no you didn't. your comments were on the dossier, and this is the NRA. but alas. two different subjects you confused, hmmmmm
nope, you asked what the difference was between what hillary did and the NRA.... I answered you

here is the NRA PART



2)If the NRA took money from a foreign country or a foreign person, or a bank in a foreign country, to help finance ads supporting trump's election, Hillary's demise, or any election, that too is ILLEGAL and breaks the law. The Russians could have used their NRA connection to basically launder their money donated, for a campaign purpose.
 
just when you thought we were capped out on stupid.

NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy

the left really has zero shame and has lost any form of shit they ever had.
From your link:

the FBI recently launched an investigation to determine whether a Russian central banker, and Putin ally, illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign.

Because it is illegal for foreign nationals to spend money in U.S. campaigns, obscuring funds coming from, say, an agent of the Russian government — by funneling them through an organization like the NRA — would be akin to money laundering.

So, if there is a question around the NRA illegally accepting donations from a foreign nation, should that not be investigated? It’s a crime.

I’m not saying they did, but someone in the FBI saw something that gave them pause.

An organization "like" the NRA does not mean that the NRA did anything at all. The FBI is a corrupt anti American organization that has become a complete enforcement arm of the democratic party.
 
no. this was.

"So, you do not see any difference between an open public discussion and a closed door meeting in the Oval Office.

No wonder you are a Repub"


you bag on people and call them REPUB for a closed door meeting when obviously it's NOT a REPUB problem but an asshole problem. you're back to your need to stereotype and pigeonhole people on things that both sides are heavily guilty of. you keep doing it i'll keep showing instances where you are wrong.

And you have reverted to your reading issues. The problem was not the closed door meeting it was the inability to comprehend why one is different than the other.


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and I asked what is the difference?
And I told you, but you conveniently ignored the post....comrade.
no you didn't. your comments were on the dossier, and this is the NRA. but alas. two different subjects you confused, hmmmmm
nope, you asked what the difference was between what hillary did and the NRA.... I answered you

here is the NRA PART



2)If the NRA took money from a foreign country or a foreign person, or a bank in a foreign country, to help finance ads supporting trump's election, Hillary's demise, or any election, that too is ILLEGAL and breaks the law. The Russians could have used their NRA connection to basically launder their money donated, for a campaign purpose.
just to point it out:

How Hillary’s campaign chief hid money from Russia
Russian Government Initiative Gave Millions to Clinton Foundation

and i could go on. if we're going to speculate on what "could" have happened, then let's do them all and not be selective. the selective part is what keeps us at odds.
 
I merely discuss actual facts. no innuendo
fact - russians are trolling the shit out of us
fact - we're blaming each other for it
fact - 70k join a facebook group in a day, they're bots.

i do think overall we agree just seeing it a bit differently on the way however. all good.
well there is the NRA thing and the 2nd amendment thing, and the immigration thing that separates us. Are you saying that's russia as well?
no - i'm saying 70k people coming into a group to shout YOU SUCK are 69.9k bots. 69.8k likely russian these days.

anything else and you're reading too much into what i'm saying.

you have a PRO NRA group and 60k people jump in to say YOU GUN OWNERS SUCK, that's not 60k actual people forming a mass online facebook protest of the group, that's a shitload of bots attacking people spouting pre-written statements designed to do nothing but piss off the people there and make them "hate" the other side and scream at them while all the time they're screaming at a speaker, not a microphone or person. the speaker doesn't care, it just keeps shouting out whatever its told to play.

but it does play into generalities and our desire to tell stupid people how stupid they are and people react. human nature. they count on it, feed off of it, and we give it to 'em and the trolls win while we blame each other for our own actions.

Yup. Facebook 2A groups are getting the shit trolled out of them by people who work as educators and computer geeks in commie shitholes like Eugina and Barfley and Squattle (btw Seattle is FULL of google ppl..real and imaginary)..who are sending as much information to Russian bot masters as fast as they can.

I watched a fb group go from 1000 to 70,000 a week. And suddenly there were *teachers* from Eugene who were *pro-NRA* who were posting garbage about how the NRA is attacking the 21 and colluding with Russia pffffffttt

I might have already posted that but I'm still disgusted.

Thinking about dumping facebook altogether.
many people are. my radio page has lost 10 likes in the last week from people just deactivating or removing their account.
I started telling people who were dependent on fb 2 years ago that they better start diversifying lol Sorry about your radio page but it does mean people are waking up.
People are pulling their kids out of school like crazy too.
 
And you have reverted to your reading issues. The problem was not the closed door meeting it was the inability to comprehend why one is different than the other.


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and I asked what is the difference?
And I told you, but you conveniently ignored the post....comrade.
no you didn't. your comments were on the dossier, and this is the NRA. but alas. two different subjects you confused, hmmmmm
nope, you asked what the difference was between what hillary did and the NRA.... I answered you

here is the NRA PART



2)If the NRA took money from a foreign country or a foreign person, or a bank in a foreign country, to help finance ads supporting trump's election, Hillary's demise, or any election, that too is ILLEGAL and breaks the law. The Russians could have used their NRA connection to basically launder their money donated, for a campaign purpose.
just to point it out:

How Hillary’s campaign chief hid money from Russia
Russian Government Initiative Gave Millions to Clinton Foundation

and i could go on. if we're going to speculate on what "could" have happened, then let's do them all and not be selective. the selective part is what keeps us at odds.
haven't read your link yet but question for you..

do you know the difference between the clinton foundation charity vs the individual clintons vs the clinton campaign?

And do you know that no clinton foundation charity money goes to the clintons? The clintons do not even take a salary for working at the charity, not even Chelsea.....
 
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The NRA is not a campaign organization.

How the NRA Exerts Influence Beyond Political Contributions - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../nra-s-political-influence-far-goes-beyond-campaign-con...
Jun 15, 2016 - Here are other ways the NRA – or similar political groups – can influence politics. ... TheNRA's campaign contributions to individual federal candidates are well-documented, with each contribution limited to $2,700 per cycle to each ... Here are other ways the NRA plays a role in policy andpolitics:.

NRA's Role In Connecting Trump Campaign With Russians Is Under ...
www.newsweek.com/nra-trump-russia-senate-investigation-torshin-726656
Nov 29, 2017 - Letters to Trump campaign associates ask them to turn over "all documents concerning the NRA."

How the NRA wields its influence - CNN - CNN.com

How the NRA wields its influence - CNN
Jan 10, 2013 - No new gun laws. The NRA has made its position clear, even in the wake of America's most recent gun debate. Here's a look at how it has accomplished that.

US gun control: What is the NRA and why is it so powerful? - BBC News
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35261394
Jan 8, 2016 - It is the most powerful single player in one of the most hotly-debated issues in the world - US gun control - but what exactly is the NRA?

The NRA's Reported Ties to Russia, In a Timeline - The Trace
The NRA’s Reported Ties to Russia, In a Timeline
Jan 19, 2018 - The FBI is investigating whether Moscow illegally funneled campaign funds to the gun group, according to a bombshell news report. ... on the matter. Here's what's known about Moscow's courtship of the NRA, and the NRA's subsequent role as a venue for Russian overtures to the Trump campaign.


Good for the NRA....since it is no longer pretend time with anti gunners, and they are coming out and stating they want to end the 2nd Amendment, it is now time to support the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and all of your local 2nd Amendment supporting groups......the fight is now out in the open, the mask is off.........
 
and I asked what is the difference?
And I told you, but you conveniently ignored the post....comrade.
no you didn't. your comments were on the dossier, and this is the NRA. but alas. two different subjects you confused, hmmmmm
nope, you asked what the difference was between what hillary did and the NRA.... I answered you

here is the NRA PART



2)If the NRA took money from a foreign country or a foreign person, or a bank in a foreign country, to help finance ads supporting trump's election, Hillary's demise, or any election, that too is ILLEGAL and breaks the law. The Russians could have used their NRA connection to basically launder their money donated, for a campaign purpose.
just to point it out:

How Hillary’s campaign chief hid money from Russia
Russian Government Initiative Gave Millions to Clinton Foundation

and i could go on. if we're going to speculate on what "could" have happened, then let's do them all and not be selective. the selective part is what keeps us at odds.
haven't read your link yet but question for you..

do you know the difference between the clinton foundation charity vs the individual clintons?

And do you know that no clinton foundation charity money goes to the clintons? The clintons do not even take a salary for working at the charity, not even Chelsea.....


It doesn't matter.....the clinton foundation received money for favors hilary did for the Russians when she was Secretary of state.......
 
and I asked what is the difference?
And I told you, but you conveniently ignored the post....comrade.
no you didn't. your comments were on the dossier, and this is the NRA. but alas. two different subjects you confused, hmmmmm
nope, you asked what the difference was between what hillary did and the NRA.... I answered you

here is the NRA PART



2)If the NRA took money from a foreign country or a foreign person, or a bank in a foreign country, to help finance ads supporting trump's election, Hillary's demise, or any election, that too is ILLEGAL and breaks the law. The Russians could have used their NRA connection to basically launder their money donated, for a campaign purpose.
just to point it out:

How Hillary’s campaign chief hid money from Russia
Russian Government Initiative Gave Millions to Clinton Foundation

and i could go on. if we're going to speculate on what "could" have happened, then let's do them all and not be selective. the selective part is what keeps us at odds.
haven't read your link yet but question for you..

do you know the difference between the clinton foundation charity vs the individual clintons?

And do you know that no clinton foundation charity money goes to the clintons? The clintons do not even take a salary for working at the charity, not even Chelsea.....

Yeah.
The *charity* is a scam meant to funnel $$$ directly to individual clintons and their friends.

"The little-known Haiti Development Fund, an LLC incorporated in Delaware in August 2010, was created by the Clinton Foundation with an initial endowment of $20 million from shady Canadian mining mogul Frank Giustra and Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim.

"The Fund was supposed to supply desperately needed seed money to Haitian entrepreneurs after an earthquake devastated the country in January 2010.

"But The Post found only one project that it funded with a fraction of the start-up cash."

"the Clinton Foundation never disclosed the Fund as a “related entity” on its tax filings as required by IRS rules. It was only after the Clinton Foundation, under mounting scrutiny and media pressure, “voluntarily” decided to refile five years’ worth of tax returns in 2015 that the Fund appears on the forms."

One of the *charity's* biggest donors:

"...In 2005, he and President Clinton traveled together to Kazakhstan to meet with the former Soviet republic’s authoritarian leader. Days after that meeting, Giustra acquired uranium assets in three of the country’s state-run mines — a venture valued at more than $3 billion. Both Giustra and Clinton have denied that the former US president helped him cement the Kazakh deal."

https://nypost.com/2016/11/05/the-clinton-foundations-off-the-books-20-million-mystery/

"...a number of companies that received contracts in Haiti happened to be entities that made large donations to the Clinton Foundation. The Haitian contracts appeared less tailored to the needs of Haiti than to the needs of the companies that were performing the services. In sum, Haitian deals appeared to be a quid pro quo for filling the coffers of the Clintons.

"For example, the Clinton Foundation selected Clayton Homes, a construction company owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, to build temporary shelters in Haiti. Buffett is an active member of the Clinton Global Initiative who has donated generously to the Clintons as well as the Clinton Foundation. The contract was supposed to be given through the normal United Nations bidding process, with the deal going to the lowest bidder who met the project’s standards. UN officials said, however, that the contract was never competitively bid for.

"Clayton offered to build “hurricane-proof trailers” but what they actually delivered turned out to be a disaster. The trailers were structurally unsafe, with high levels of formaldehyde and insulation coming out of the walls."

Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party -- Dinesh D’Souza on the Clinton Foundation | National Review
 
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