Now we got white women cops killing unarmed negros.....ww?????

[Vigilante]

Untrue. The video from the chopper clearly shows that it was down. No doubt about it.

No matter how many times you repeat this lie it will never stop being a lie. His blood is clearly seen on the CLOSED window and door.

Is it inside or outside,fucking genius!

Obviously OUTSIDE unless the door is transparent, or he rolled up the window from outside the car completely to the top with the door closed after he was shot.

Oh the lengths the Right goes to rationalize anything. How can anyone reason with the Right?????

couldn't have been inside and bled over and window rolled up....too easy with morons that try to second guess.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Police chief needs to STFU. Was he there? Is he running the investigation? Does he have all the facts? That cop's own agency hasn't reached any conclusions yet. Even police chief's can be idiots.

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

I would like to go back in time and pinpoint the time when you determined that in a free country, cops should be able to shoot anybody who "ignores instructions". I don't remember our Constitution giving cops the authority to demand we "obey all instructions" upon pain of death?

Tell me that disobeying police instructions doesn't escalate the situation and increase the chance of your untimely demise.

 

[Moonglow]

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

Yet you do not have all the evidence, but you make a decision because of your mindset that cops never do anything wrong...

Not all the facts are in, but enough can be seen on the video to conclude that the Gentle Giant wasn't listening to the cops.

Evidently he was not threatening them and should not have been murdered....

 

[Pumpkin Row]

it was a brilliant idea to LOWER HIS HANDS, AGAIN AGAINST THEIR ORDERS causing it to look like he was reaching for something.

His arm went down AFTERF he was shot. The video clearly shows you can hear the shot FIRST and then you see his arm go down.

These idiots think you can't hear the shot because the cop was using a silencer.

Video Shows Terence Crutcher Lower His Hands Before Being Shot By Tulsa Police
Uh no, shots were fired after he reaches into his vehicle, if you look at the videos from another angle. On the other hand, you probably missed it because you're busy looking the other way.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

HE DID NOT have a gun. He did not ACT as if he had a gun. He was not acting like a maniac. He may well have had a few too many brews. Is THAT a good reason to be killed? Look, I will defend cops with my dying breath, but only when they're right. They panicked; this could well have been handled differently. The folks on this thread are pulling out all these variables that DID NOT EXIST! He was not waving a gun! He was not on PCP! He was a threat in their minds first and foremost. All cops are cynical and look at everyone as guilty until proven innocent. It's how they roll. But shooting them is beyond the pale in this incident. Period.

With all due respect, Old Lady...it's now being reported that PCP was indeed found in his SUV. The woman officer who first arrived at the scene CORRECTLY appraised him as being on PCP which means his reaction to being arrested...which he would have been...might very well have been violent and without provocation because that's what that drug does to people.

And this is why you don't claim he isn't on PCP before knowing it for a fact.

Finding PCP doesn't mean he's on it either dope.

You're right, he may have just been keeping it as a pet.

And it doesn't justify murder....

You should read the thread. I've replied to MANY similar posts. Again, for all the cops knew, WHEN HE WALKED TO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, AND REACHED INTO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, he could have been retrieving a weapon.

 

[Moonglow]

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

I would like to go back in time and pinpoint the time when you determined that in a free country, cops should be able to shoot anybody who "ignores instructions". I don't remember our Constitution giving cops the authority to demand we "obey all instructions" upon pain of death?

Tell me that disobeying police instructions doesn't escalate the situation and increase the chance of your untimely demise.

I have had guns pulled on me in OKC by cops with .357 hammers clicked in the ready to fire position, when I had done nothing wrong and obeyed all the instructions...It was in Warr Acres..So tell me again about cops and itchy trigger finger defense...

 

[Moonglow]

With all due respect, Old Lady...it's now being reported that PCP was indeed found in his SUV. The woman officer who first arrived at the scene CORRECTLY appraised him as being on PCP which means his reaction to being arrested...which he would have been...might very well have been violent and without provocation because that's what that drug does to people.

And this is why you don't claim he isn't on PCP before knowing it for a fact.

Finding PCP doesn't mean he's on it either dope.

You're right, he may have just been keeping it as a pet.

And it doesn't justify murder....

You should read the thread. I've replied to MANY similar posts. Again, for all the cops knew, WHEN HE WALKED TO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, AND REACHED INTO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, he could have been retrieving a weapon.

And 4 cops on his ass couldn't do anything but kill, sounds like they are weak....of mind..

 

[koshergrl]

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

I would like to go back in time and pinpoint the time when you determined that in a free country, cops should be able to shoot anybody who "ignores instructions". I don't remember our Constitution giving cops the authority to demand we "obey all instructions" upon pain of death?

Tell me that disobeying police instructions doesn't escalate the situation and increase the chance of your untimely demise.

I didn't deny that they escalate insanely and violently. That's rather the point.

 

[koshergrl]

I'm a big proponent of unarmed cops, who don't patrol. Let them sit in their fucking hidey holes until somebody calls them.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Suddenly the back window is the front window.

Problem with lying is keeping your lies straight.

The back window is closed too, not that the video shows him reaching into the back window either.

Dufus thinks the cops are wearing microphones and he was cooperating.

 

[PredFan]

There were at least five cops, one guy. He should have been stopped from approaching the car before he got there, if it was such a big deal. They panicked. He's dead.

Unless the cops told him to put his hands on the car so they could frisk him. No one is yelling to him to stop as he walks to the car and assumes the position to be frisked, and is shot in the frisking position.

Shitforbrains thinks the cops had microphones.

They do, and they clearly picked up the sound of the shot, but no sound of anyone yelling at him to stop. He is clearly walking to the car and assuming the frisking position as the female cop silently follows him.

In that video you cannot hear anything but the the car radio and the cops radio. You cannot hear if the officers nearest to the guy said anything. Naturally, the car cam's mic wouldn't pick up what the cops were telling him. Even the shot itself was muted to the point where it isn't easy to tell it was the shot. That video is NOT proof that the cops were not yelling at him. It is also inconclusive that the guy was assuming the frisking position as you claim. Our view of him was mostly obstructed. What little we did see could as likely been him trying to get into his car.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Oklahoma Officer Fatally Shoots Unarmed Black Man In Alarming Video
The man appears to be walking with his hands above his head.
09/19/2016 07:24 pm ET | Updated 10 minutes ago

Oklahoma Officer Fatally Shoots Unarmed Black Man In Alarming Video | Huffington Post

“Terence died on that street in his own blood, without any help,” the lawyer said.

“We saw that Terence did not have any weapon,” Solomon-Simmons said. “We saw that Terence did not make any sudden movements. We saw that Terence was not being belligerent. We did not see Terence reach into the car. We did not see Terence attacking the officers.”

As seen in the video, more than two minutes go by before officers begin administering aid to Crutcher after he was shot.

The police chief said an investigation of the incident is ongoing. The U.S. Department of Justice will conduct a separate civil rights inquiry into the shooting, AP reports.

Does the madness ever end with you people?????????

Black men had better wake up and start voting and participating.....take your dicks out of Becky and get with the times, negro's.....you are nothing but target practice for this race of animals you love so dearly!!

Who is WE PEOPLE? You are aware that people in the rural us are also gunned down by cops and fucking federal agents who are armed and creeping all over our public lands?

Do you know who gave them all that authority?

Dependent, stupid, entitlement morons who are too retarded and too brainwashed to defend or think for themselves. DEMOCRATS.

What we need is a bigger more powerful government because the government is murdering innocents.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Questions and observations:

1. Why was there a chopper there?

2. Why was there so much back up available?

3. Why was the vehicle stopped in the middle of the road?

4. Was the window down or up?

5. What was said to the victim?

6. Did the victim comply with orders or not?

If it was a routine traffic stop or a disabled vehicle, as many HERE claim, why was there a chopper? Why was ther so many cops already there? In the video, different angles show different things. From one angle, it looks like the window is clearly down. You can see unobstructed inside the vehicle. In another angle, it looks like the window is clearly up. In the video where the guy was already shot, there appears to be blood on the window and door. It's inconclusive at this point. And most importantly, we have no audio of the cops or the victim.

I call him the victim because of the assumption of innocence and that is not a conclusion on my part.

1. Why was there a chopper there?
Uncooperative deranged man who parked his car in the middle of a busy street.

2. Why was there so much back up available?
See 1.

3. Why was the vehicle stopped in the middle of the road?
See 1.
4. Was the window down or up?
Reaching for the door handle is the same.

5. What was said to the victim?
We do not know yet. But it sure was not go get back in your car.

6. Did the victim comply with orders or not?
Obviously not.

1. A chopper isn't an easy thing to deploy. They don't do it for nothing. We see videos from news choppers all the time because they frequently fly, but police choppers don't. There had to be a serious reason for that to be there.

2. Most times it takes a while to get back up there. Now one of the many things we don't know is how long this encounter had been going on. The chopper and the back up suggests that it had been going on for a while. That could be important.

3. Agreed, it doesn't seem like a routine stop.

4. I'm not sure a jury would agree with you.

We still can't say anything for sure, but there are interesting questions.

Shitforbrains thinks police helicopters stay on the ground until called.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

And this is why you don't claim he isn't on PCP before knowing it for a fact.

Finding PCP doesn't mean he's on it either dope.

You're right, he may have just been keeping it as a pet.

And it doesn't justify murder....

You should read the thread. I've replied to MANY similar posts. Again, for all the cops knew, WHEN HE WALKED TO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, AND REACHED INTO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, he could have been retrieving a weapon.

And 4 cops on his ass couldn't do anything but kill, sounds like they are weak....of mind..

Sounds like you're a tremendous whiner. On the other hand, maybe you should campaign to let cops know they should wait until a gun is pulled and the guy starts dropping their fellow officers before they're allowed to kill a criminal. Then and only then, with cops dead, Liberals will think they were lenient enough with a criminal.

 

[PredFan]

Middletown, Ohio police chief to Tulsa cops after Terence Crutcher shooting: "You are making us all look bad" - CBS News

An Ohio police chief venting frustration at the Terence Crutcher shooting in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is gaining national attention on social media.

Middletown Police Chief Rodney Muterspaw took to social media to vent his frustration at the shooting death of the unarmed black man by a Tulsa police officer, one of several this year that have continued to spark tension between police and the black community.

One of his tweets, shared thousands of times as of Wednesday morning, reads: “As an officer I am so sick and drained of some cops doing things like this. You are making us all look bad. STOP.”

Police chief needs to STFU. Was he there? Is he running the investigation? Does he have all the facts? That cop's own agency hasn't reached any conclusions yet. Even police chief's can be idiots.

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Wtf is an idiot from Ohio doing chiming in on events in Oklahoma?

 

[PredFan]

so perp decided he would go back to his driver door and ........... get in?

First of all, he is not a perp. And he doesn't make any attempt to enter the car, but instead clearly assumes a position to be frisked.

That is pure speculation on your part, just the same as his is.

 

[Moonglow]

Middletown, Ohio police chief to Tulsa cops after Terence Crutcher shooting: "You are making us all look bad" - CBS News

An Ohio police chief venting frustration at the Terence Crutcher shooting in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is gaining national attention on social media.

Middletown Police Chief Rodney Muterspaw took to social media to vent his frustration at the shooting death of the unarmed black man by a Tulsa police officer, one of several this year that have continued to spark tension between police and the black community.

One of his tweets, shared thousands of times as of Wednesday morning, reads: “As an officer I am so sick and drained of some cops doing things like this. You are making us all look bad. STOP.”

Police chief needs to STFU. Was he there? Is he running the investigation? Does he have all the facts? That cop's own agency hasn't reached any conclusions yet. Even police chief's can be idiots.

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Wtf is an idiot from Ohio doing chiming in on events in Oklahoma?

Where do you live in Okiehoma..? I'm 5 miles from the border...lived in OKC for 24 years...

 

[Weatherman2020]

Police chief needs to STFU. Was he there? Is he running the investigation? Does he have all the facts? That cop's own agency hasn't reached any conclusions yet. Even police chief's can be idiots.

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

I would like to go back in time and pinpoint the time when you determined that in a free country, cops should be able to shoot anybody who "ignores instructions". I don't remember our Constitution giving cops the authority to demand we "obey all instructions" upon pain of death?

There is a reason why people going back to their car against orders get shot.

 

[PredFan]

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Yet you condemn the perp, all out of ignorance.,...

Bullshit. The perp was ignoring instructions. Even the helicopter pilot remarked on it. That's an established fact. He fucked with the cops and got ventilated. No victim here.

Yet you do not have all the evidence, but you make a decision because of your mindset that cops never do anything wrong...

Not all the facts are in, but enough can be seen on the video to conclude that the Gentle Giant wasn't listening to the cops.

With respect my friend, we don't know that, we can't know that. That is pure speculation on your part.

 

[Moonglow]

Finding PCP doesn't mean he's on it either dope.

You're right, he may have just been keeping it as a pet.

And it doesn't justify murder....

You should read the thread. I've replied to MANY similar posts. Again, for all the cops knew, WHEN HE WALKED TO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, AND REACHED INTO HIS VEHICLE AGAINST ORDERS, he could have been retrieving a weapon.

And 4 cops on his ass couldn't do anything but kill, sounds like they are weak....of mind..

Sounds like you're a tremendous whiner. On the other hand, maybe you should campaign to let cops know they should wait until a gun is pulled and the guy starts dropping their fellow officers before they're allowed to kill a criminal. Then and only then, with cops dead, Liberals will think they were lenient enough with a criminal.

That's the way the military trains you and as a security guard for 22 years I never had to kill anyone for not following instructions... I simply grappled them to the ground...