Now we got white women cops killing unarmed negros.....ww?????

[Weatherman2020]

The 4th Amendment doesn't apply to local police and certainly doesn't restrain them from protecting themselves. You're like many of your fellow Leftists thinking the Constitution governs every tiny aspect of society. It was written as a restraint on federal power. Nothing more.

The constitution protects the rights of all American people, lol.

And they were protecting themselves from..what? Exactly? Walking away?

Please let me know how many people have been "saved" via cops pulling over people for no good reason. Seems to me that a lot more people get killed by idiot cops harassing people then people are saved by the same harassment.

Timothy McVeigh got caught because he was pulled over when the tag on his license plate wasn't right. How many people would that have saved if it had happened before he got to the Federal Building in OKC? What you call "harassment" is simply the police doing what they're paid to do...enforce the law.

Imagine what might have been accomplished if the pigs had stayed in their offices and done some real police work on that case instead of strutting around harassing people on the roads. Maybe the bombing would never have happened in the first place!

No, what I call "harassment" is "harassment".

I find you to be incredibly naive, Kosher...
Pull police off the streets and see what happens. Pigs? Really? I come from a long line of firefighters. I have respect for first responders because they run towards danger when everyone else is running away. The police are not your enemy.

Cops are no longer of the breed of "first responders" that you are referencing. The police who harass and shoot people for failing to respond to commands cops bark when they are hazing, harassing, and assaulting people for no good reason are not the first responders of old.

And let's look at that phrase..FIRST RESPONDERS. That implies a CALL HAS BEEN MADE before the government shows up. Gunning down mentally ill or even drugged people when they fail to hop quickly enough is not "responding" to anything except the cowardice and stupidity of pigs who shouldn't be out there intimidating people going about their business.

Shitforbrains doesnt know the police are the government.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well, the racists are getting pretty thick, so I'll be moving on. But the guy should have been more cooperative, and the cops should not have shot him. It was a lose-lose, all the way around.

It's entirely his own fault for not cooperating. Guns wouldn't have even been drawn.

Says Miss Perfect. Cops don't have a right to kill citizens for being uncooperative.

Still insist on revealing your lack of ability to properly analyze a situation I see....whatever....I will type real slow...maybe you will be able to get it this time....any time a cop or civilian feels their life is being put in danger they have the right to use lethal force. Have you ever heard of 'self defense'...look it up. All the states have laws on self defense and when and how it is legal to use lethal force to defend your life.

Now when a suspect ignores lawful orders, proceeds to go towards his vehicle and proceeds to try and reach inside...any reasonable policeman shoud conclude the suspect ...especially one exhibiting signs of being on pcp...may be reaching for a weapon. Futhamoe...there is not a jury in the country...even a all black jury that cannot understand the cop had a reasonable fear for his or her life.

No one's life was in danger. There were plenty of officers on the scene.
I understand that there is nothing in the world that scares you more than a large black man, but shooting was not necessary.

 

[PredFan]

They do, and they clearly picked up the sound of the shot, but no sound of anyone yelling at him to stop. He is clearly walking to the car and assuming the frisking position as the female cop silently follows him.

In that video you cannot hear anything but the the car radio and the cops radio. You cannot hear if the officers nearest to the guy said anything. Naturally, the car cam's mic wouldn't pick up what the cops were telling him. Even the shot itself was muted to the point where it isn't easy to tell it was the shot. That video is NOT proof that the cops were not yelling at him. It is also inconclusive that the guy was assuming the frisking position as you claim. Our view of him was mostly obstructed. What little we did see could as likely been him trying to get into his car.

Nonsense .... the officer fired exactly one round and one shot is clearly discernible.

Not the point.

The point is that the shot is muted because the mic for the dash cam is inside the police car. If the shot is that muted, then you would not hear the voices of the cops even if they were yelling at him.

The shot sounds "muted" to you only because you have a hearing problem. The same mic that picked up the gunshot, picked up her saying "shot fired."

Shitforbrains still thinks a radio is a webcam microphone.

This one you got correct.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This man was neither violent nor a criminal.
That's the exact attitude and stereotyping that causes officers to shoot.

Is there some video that just got released? Because the one I saw shows a large man disobeying cops and going back to his car. And while the video I saw has him blocked from view witnesses said he reached into his car.
That's a justified shooting.
And they found PCP in his car, and if he was on that he was immune to tasers and all pain, so no plan B was possible.

The windows were up.
You have no indication that he was"on" anything.
He was shot at the very same time he was tased.
Think it through again without ascribing negative stereotypes.

"The windows were up."
TULSA, Okla. – An attorney for a white Oklahoma police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man said the man ignored officers' commands, kept touching his pocket and was reaching through a window of his SUV when he was killed.

"You have no indication that he was"on" anything."
Going for your car against commands while at gunpoint says he was high or suicidal. PCP was later found in his car.

"He was shot at the very same time he was tased."
Which says two officers saw the same exact threat at the same time. And tasers do not work on those high on PCP.

Want to try again?

No need to try again. I posted this earlier. You should try reading the thread before looking like a dope.
I'll post it again to further highlight your lack of comprehension.

://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/19/man-fatally-shot-by-tulsa-police-was-unarmed-chief-says-as-disturbing-video-is-released/?utm_term=.40f5bcdea3c3

A day after police in Oklahoma released video that shows a white Tulsa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man, attorneys representing the slain man’s family released photos that contradict a key claim in authorities’ version of events.

At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Benjamin Crump — a civil rights lawyer who has represented many families of those killed in high-profile police shootings — said Terence Crutcher never reached his hands into the driver’s side window of his stalled sport-utility vehicle before he was shot by police.

Crutcher couldn’t have reached into the vehicle, Crump said, because enhanced photos of the vehicle taken from police video show that the window was rolled up.

Here's the link to the chopper video. Watch when they zoom in after the shooting. You will clearly see blood down the side of the car including the window.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f

There is blood running down the side of the car...the window appears to be open....certainly no evidence can be seen of blood running down a window...that is just your imagination working overtime to try and support your fallacious agenda.

Yeah, don't believe your lyin' eyes there dope.

 

[Oldstyle]

The 4th Amendment doesn't apply to local police and certainly doesn't restrain them from protecting themselves. You're like many of your fellow Leftists thinking the Constitution governs every tiny aspect of society. It was written as a restraint on federal power. Nothing more.

The constitution protects the rights of all American people, lol.

And they were protecting themselves from..what? Exactly? Walking away?

Please let me know how many people have been "saved" via cops pulling over people for no good reason. Seems to me that a lot more people get killed by idiot cops harassing people then people are saved by the same harassment.

Timothy McVeigh got caught because he was pulled over when the tag on his license plate wasn't right. How many people would that have saved if it had happened before he got to the Federal Building in OKC? What you call "harassment" is simply the police doing what they're paid to do...enforce the law.

Imagine what might have been accomplished if the pigs had stayed in their offices and done some real police work on that case instead of strutting around harassing people on the roads. Maybe the bombing would never have happened in the first place!

No, what I call "harassment" is "harassment".

I find you to be incredibly naive, Kosher...
Pull police off the streets and see what happens. Pigs? Really? I come from a long line of firefighters. I have respect for first responders because they run towards danger when everyone else is running away. The police are not your enemy.

Cops are no longer of the breed of "first responders" that you are referencing. The police who harass and shoot people for failing to respond to commands cops bark when they are hazing, harassing, and assaulting people for no good reason are not the first responders of old.

And let's look at that phrase..FIRST RESPONDERS. That implies a CALL HAS BEEN MADE before the government shows up. Gunning down mentally ill or even drugged people when they fail to hop quickly enough is not "responding" to anything except the cowardice and stupidity of pigs who shouldn't be out there intimidating people going about their business.

Oh, please! The Police don't run around "gunning down" mentally ill and drugged people! They are forced to deal with mentally ill and drugged people on a daily basis and it's not a fun job to have. I'm curious...should the Police have ignored the calls they got regarding the SUV parked in the middle of the road with it's doors open and the driver wandering around acting strangely? Should they have just said...Nope, not our business...you citizens handle that by yourselves! They responded because it's their job to respond.

 

[Oldstyle]

And no, I'm not naïve. I happen to have a lot more faith in my own ability to defend myself and get myself out of any crisis I might get into than I do in the ability of cops just happening onto a situation in THE NICK OF TIME. Thanks, I'll defend myself from highway bandits, the pigs can stay home. I've never seen any situation that they haven't made 100 percent worse by showing up.

That's a load of crap, Kosher...the Police deescalate situations literally thousands of times each and every day!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Well, the racists are getting pretty thick, so I'll be moving on. But the guy should have been more cooperative, and the cops should not have shot him. It was a lose-lose, all the way around.

It's entirely his own fault for not cooperating. Guns wouldn't have even been drawn.

Says Miss Perfect. Cops don't have a right to kill citizens for being uncooperative.

Still insist on revealing your lack of ability to properly analyze a situation I see....whatever....I will type real slow...maybe you will be able to get it this time....any time a cop or civilian feels their life is being put in danger they have the right to use lethal force. Have you ever heard of 'self defense'...look it up. All the states have laws on self defense and when and how it is legal to use lethal force to defend your life.

Now when a suspect ignores lawful orders, proceeds to go towards his vehicle and proceeds to try and reach inside...any reasonable policeman shoud conclude the suspect ...especially one exhibiting signs of being on pcp...may be reaching for a weapon. Futhamoe...there is not a jury in the country...even a all black jury that cannot understand the cop had a reasonable fear for his or her life.

No one's life was in danger. There were plenty of officers on the scene.
I understand that there is nothing in the world that scares you more than a large black man, but shooting was not necessary.

Shitforbrains says a deranged and beligerent man is not a threat to anyone. What a fuckhead.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Untrue. The video from the chopper clearly shows that it was down. No doubt about it.

No matter how many times you repeat this lie it will never stop being a lie. His blood is clearly seen on the CLOSED window and door.

It's easy to see it running down the car and pooling on the ground. It's also very easy to see that the rear, tinted window is closed as well.

This is important as the police said they fired because he was reaching into the vehicle.
They haven't been honest yet.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Is there some video that just got released? Because the one I saw shows a large man disobeying cops and going back to his car. And while the video I saw has him blocked from view witnesses said he reached into his car.
That's a justified shooting.
And they found PCP in his car, and if he was on that he was immune to tasers and all pain, so no plan B was possible.

The windows were up.
You have no indication that he was"on" anything.
He was shot at the very same time he was tased.
Think it through again without ascribing negative stereotypes.

"The windows were up."
TULSA, Okla. – An attorney for a white Oklahoma police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man said the man ignored officers' commands, kept touching his pocket and was reaching through a window of his SUV when he was killed.

"You have no indication that he was"on" anything."
Going for your car against commands while at gunpoint says he was high or suicidal. PCP was later found in his car.

"He was shot at the very same time he was tased."
Which says two officers saw the same exact threat at the same time. And tasers do not work on those high on PCP.

Want to try again?

No need to try again. I posted this earlier. You should try reading the thread before looking like a dope.
I'll post it again to further highlight your lack of comprehension.

://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/19/man-fatally-shot-by-tulsa-police-was-unarmed-chief-says-as-disturbing-video-is-released/?utm_term=.40f5bcdea3c3

A day after police in Oklahoma released video that shows a white Tulsa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man, attorneys representing the slain man’s family released photos that contradict a key claim in authorities’ version of events.

At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Benjamin Crump — a civil rights lawyer who has represented many families of those killed in high-profile police shootings — said Terence Crutcher never reached his hands into the driver’s side window of his stalled sport-utility vehicle before he was shot by police.

Crutcher couldn’t have reached into the vehicle, Crump said, because enhanced photos of the vehicle taken from police video show that the window was rolled up.

Here's the link to the chopper video. Watch when they zoom in after the shooting. You will clearly see blood down the side of the car including the window.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f

There is blood running down the side of the car...the window appears to be open....certainly no evidence can be seen of blood running down a window...that is just your imagination working overtime to try and support your fallacious agenda.

Yeah, don't believe your lyin' eyes there dope.

View attachment 90518

Good photo. Between the video and that photo we know he was attempting to get back in his car.
Good shooting

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The tinted window??

How can it be visibly tinted if it was open?

Because they only tint ONE window!...pathetic!

Oh, no, vagisil chimes in.

Moron .... the window is clearly tinted. You wouldn't be able to see a tinted window if it was down.

Because the others aren't tinted...right...as swipe!...You ever think?

I can't help your brain has ceased functioning and cannot discern the tinted back window with the non-tinted driver's side window.

Optical illusion fucktard!

Dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And no, I'm not naïve. I happen to have a lot more faith in my own ability to defend myself and get myself out of any crisis I might get into than I do in the ability of cops just happening onto a situation in THE NICK OF TIME. Thanks, I'll defend myself from highway bandits, the pigs can stay home. I've never seen any situation that they haven't made 100 percent worse by showing up.

That's a load of crap, Kosher...the Police deescalate situations literally thousands of times each and every day!

Just not this time. That's the problem.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Now we learn he parked his car in the middle of the road and got out screaming the car was going to explode.

Yeah, no drugs, perfectly normal man with his hands up - REACHING INTO HIS CAR.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It seems like there's a very simple two step process to avoid being killed by police. It goes like this:
1. Don't break the law.
2. Comply with lawful commands.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Police chief needs to STFU. Was he there? Is he running the investigation? Does he have all the facts? That cop's own agency hasn't reached any conclusions yet. Even police chief's can be idiots.

You were not there either, and do not know the facts, yet it does not stop you from stating your opinion, maybe you and others can STFU....

I'm not condemning the cop before the facts come in like that idiot police chief who has probably never been a cop.

Wtf is an idiot from Ohio doing chiming in on events in Oklahoma?

Shitforbrains thinks only Tulsa residents can talk about this shooting.

1. I didn't say that he couldn't talk about it. I am talking about it now.

2. What is stupid is that he was concluding wrongdoing on the cops part when he has no more knowledge about the subject than we do.

3. It appears that YOU have the shit for brains. You should shut up while you are behind.

He has 24 years on the job and runs his own dept. I'm fairly certain that he has a sound understanding of proper protocols and policy. He obviously saw something he thought was out of bounds.

 

[Faun]

They do, and they clearly picked up the sound of the shot, but no sound of anyone yelling at him to stop. He is clearly walking to the car and assuming the frisking position as the female cop silently follows him.

In that video you cannot hear anything but the the car radio and the cops radio. You cannot hear if the officers nearest to the guy said anything. Naturally, the car cam's mic wouldn't pick up what the cops were telling him. Even the shot itself was muted to the point where it isn't easy to tell it was the shot. That video is NOT proof that the cops were not yelling at him. It is also inconclusive that the guy was assuming the frisking position as you claim. Our view of him was mostly obstructed. What little we did see could as likely been him trying to get into his car.

Nonsense .... the officer fired exactly one round and one shot is clearly discernible.

Not the point.

The point is that the shot is muted because the mic for the dash cam is inside the police car. If the shot is that muted, then you would not hear the voices of the cops even if they were yelling at him.

The shot sounds "muted" to you only because you have a hearing problem. The same mic that picked up the gunshot, picked up her saying "shot fired."

Shitforbrains still thinks a radio is a webcam microphone.

You have a reading disorder... he said nothing about a "radio" in that post.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well, the racists are getting pretty thick, so I'll be moving on. But the guy should have been more cooperative, and the cops should not have shot him. It was a lose-lose, all the way around.

It's entirely his own fault for not cooperating. Guns wouldn't have even been drawn.

Says Miss Perfect. Cops don't have a right to kill citizens for being uncooperative.

Still insist on revealing your lack of ability to properly analyze a situation I see....whatever....I will type real slow...maybe you will be able to get it this time....any time a cop or civilian feels their life is being put in danger they have the right to use lethal force. Have you ever heard of 'self defense'...look it up. All the states have laws on self defense and when and how it is legal to use lethal force to defend your life.

Now when a suspect ignores lawful orders, proceeds to go towards his vehicle and proceeds to try and reach inside...any reasonable policeman shoud conclude the suspect ...especially one exhibiting signs of being on pcp...may be reaching for a weapon. Futhamoe...there is not a jury in the country...even a all black jury that cannot understand the cop had a reasonable fear for his or her life.

No one's life was in danger. There were plenty of officers on the scene.
I understand that there is nothing in the world that scares you more than a large black man, but shooting was not necessary.

Shitforbrains says a deranged and beligerent man is not a threat to anyone. What a fuckhead.

I didn't say that at all. You did douche.
There were plenty of officers there to get him cuffed. No one even attempted to step to him and frisk him.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The windows were up.
You have no indication that he was"on" anything.
He was shot at the very same time he was tased.
Think it through again without ascribing negative stereotypes.

"The windows were up."
TULSA, Okla. – An attorney for a white Oklahoma police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man said the man ignored officers' commands, kept touching his pocket and was reaching through a window of his SUV when he was killed.

"You have no indication that he was"on" anything."
Going for your car against commands while at gunpoint says he was high or suicidal. PCP was later found in his car.

"He was shot at the very same time he was tased."
Which says two officers saw the same exact threat at the same time. And tasers do not work on those high on PCP.

Want to try again?

No need to try again. I posted this earlier. You should try reading the thread before looking like a dope.
I'll post it again to further highlight your lack of comprehension.

://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/19/man-fatally-shot-by-tulsa-police-was-unarmed-chief-says-as-disturbing-video-is-released/?utm_term=.40f5bcdea3c3

A day after police in Oklahoma released video that shows a white Tulsa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man, attorneys representing the slain man’s family released photos that contradict a key claim in authorities’ version of events.

At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Benjamin Crump — a civil rights lawyer who has represented many families of those killed in high-profile police shootings — said Terence Crutcher never reached his hands into the driver’s side window of his stalled sport-utility vehicle before he was shot by police.

Crutcher couldn’t have reached into the vehicle, Crump said, because enhanced photos of the vehicle taken from police video show that the window was rolled up.

Here's the link to the chopper video. Watch when they zoom in after the shooting. You will clearly see blood down the side of the car including the window.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f

There is blood running down the side of the car...the window appears to be open....certainly no evidence can be seen of blood running down a window...that is just your imagination working overtime to try and support your fallacious agenda.

Yeah, don't believe your lyin' eyes there dope.

View attachment 90518

Good photo. Between the video and that photo we know he was attempting to get back in his car.
Good shooting

How do you conclude that from the picture dope?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

1. When the suspect was surrounded by multiple officers should have locked his hands behind his head and dropped to his knees and let the cops do what they were going to do because once on your knees with your hands locked behind your head the officer has no reason to shoot you.

2. When the Suspect refused to stop moving toward the automobile and refused to obey orders then the suspect was taking his life into his own hands.

3. Once the suspect was down the officers should have moved forward to render aid but did not.

Now do I believe there was need for deadly force in this case?

No, but the suspect was disobeying orders and if any of you have ever dealt with LEO you would know the best thing to do is drop to your knees and finger lock your hands behind your head and let them get their investigation over...

Now I know the Progressive left will educate me how no one need to obey the police but try that and I will watch how you were shot dead for your stupidity...

The female officer career is over and more riots will happen but the suspect was wrong for not stopping and dropping to his knees...

There is no audio. How do you know what was said?

Well you are wrong because NBC had it on and you can hear the pilot state he had his hands up, so I don't know where you got your information ( Most likely Fox news ) but there is audio conversation!

Captured From Above: Chopper footage shows Tulsa police kill unarmed man

( Hit play and watch and listen to it or not because you can't then accuse me of being of a cop hating Progressive Liberal )

 

[Pumpkin Row]

1. When the suspect was surrounded by multiple officers should have locked his hands behind his head and dropped to his knees and let the cops do what they were going to do because once on your knees with your hands locked behind your head the officer has no reason to shoot you.

2. When the Suspect refused to stop moving toward the automobile and refused to obey orders then the suspect was taking his life into his own hands.

3. Once the suspect was down the officers should have moved forward to render aid but did not.

Now do I believe there was need for deadly force in this case?

No, but the suspect was disobeying orders and if any of you have ever dealt with LEO you would know the best thing to do is drop to your knees and finger lock your hands behind your head and let them get their investigation over...

Now I know the Progressive left will educate me how no one need to obey the police but try that and I will watch how you were shot dead for your stupidity...

The female officer career is over and more riots will happen but the suspect was wrong for not stopping and dropping to his knees...

There is no audio. How do you know what was said?

Well you are wrong because NBC had it on and you can hear the pilot state he had his hands up, so I don't know where you got your information ( Most likely Fox news ) but there is audio conversation!

Captured From Above: Chopper footage shows Tulsa police kill unarmed man

( Hit play and watch and listen to it or not because you can't then accuse me of being of a cop hating Progressive Liberal )

He did have his hands up. Then he put them down and reached into the vehicle.

 

[Weatherman2020]

"The windows were up."
TULSA, Okla. – An attorney for a white Oklahoma police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man said the man ignored officers' commands, kept touching his pocket and was reaching through a window of his SUV when he was killed.

"You have no indication that he was"on" anything."
Going for your car against commands while at gunpoint says he was high or suicidal. PCP was later found in his car.

"He was shot at the very same time he was tased."
Which says two officers saw the same exact threat at the same time. And tasers do not work on those high on PCP.

Want to try again?

No need to try again. I posted this earlier. You should try reading the thread before looking like a dope.
I'll post it again to further highlight your lack of comprehension.

://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/19/man-fatally-shot-by-tulsa-police-was-unarmed-chief-says-as-disturbing-video-is-released/?utm_term=.40f5bcdea3c3

A day after police in Oklahoma released video that shows a white Tulsa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man, attorneys representing the slain man’s family released photos that contradict a key claim in authorities’ version of events.

At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Benjamin Crump — a civil rights lawyer who has represented many families of those killed in high-profile police shootings — said Terence Crutcher never reached his hands into the driver’s side window of his stalled sport-utility vehicle before he was shot by police.

Crutcher couldn’t have reached into the vehicle, Crump said, because enhanced photos of the vehicle taken from police video show that the window was rolled up.

Here's the link to the chopper video. Watch when they zoom in after the shooting. You will clearly see blood down the side of the car including the window.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f

There is blood running down the side of the car...the window appears to be open....certainly no evidence can be seen of blood running down a window...that is just your imagination working overtime to try and support your fallacious agenda.

Yeah, don't believe your lyin' eyes there dope.

View attachment 90518

Good photo. Between the video and that photo we know he was attempting to get back in his car.
Good shooting

How do you conclude that from the picture dope?

Star of video - 30 feet from car.
Shooting site - next to car door.

Duh.