Nugent Ousted From Concert: Liberty Takes Another on the Chin-Again


I was looking at the thread title. The Civil War was also a conflict between an agrarian economy, and the beginnings of industrialization. Northern "wage slavery" was no utopia for "free" workers. Most jobs paid barely enough to live on, no protection for workers either. Become ill, or unable to work-out the door one went. Child labor was also allowed in many Northern states.

A slave in the south was a little bit better off than the wage slave of the north. The company had hold of the wage slave of the north because they did not make enough money to pay for their credit with the company store and if you owed the company store you could not leave that company.

You had to house yourself put clothes on your back take care of yourself if you were hurt or sick. At least the slave had food on his table clothes on his back and if he became hurt or sick he wasn't kicked out because he couldn't pay for his house and he had food on his table. Sad either one couldn't freely move about.
 
He's not talking about Ted Nugent .

I was looking at the thread title. The Civil War was also a conflict between an agrarian economy, and the beginnings of industrialization. Northern "wage slavery" was no utopia for "free" workers. Most jobs paid barely enough to live on, no protection for workers either. Become ill, or unable to work-out the door one went. Child labor was also allowed in many Northern states.

A slave in the south was a little bit better off than the wage slave of the north. The company had hold of the wage slave of the north because they did not make enough money to pay for their credit with the company store and if you owed the company store you could not leave that company.

You had to house yourself put clothes on your back take care of yourself if you were hurt or sick. At least the slave had food on his table clothes on his back and if he became hurt or sick he wasn't kicked out because he couldn't pay for his house and he had food on his table. Sad either one couldn't freely move about.

It would depend on the slave owner; for the most part however, Northern "wage slavery" was certainly not a "free" existence. Workers were often OWNED by the companies.......16 Tons is often called the first "protest" song.
 
Nugent doesn't do drugs. His only addiction has been to sex. And to hunting of course.

What's the difference? He's still hunting white tail?
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Damn! I didn't know REO was still doing concerts. Saw both of those groups in the 70s in concert. great shows.

I saw Styx and ZZ Topp when I was training at Ft. Jackson, 1976.

From what I remember, they put on a great show.

Over in Memphis TN, sometime in the mid 80's I remember being really upset that Steppenwolf had to cancel their concert because their lead singer had a cold. They were supposed to perform on my birthday.

However........................

Later on that summer, Steppenwolf decided to come back, but it was only for the troops (and civilians who had base privledges). And, in retrospect, that USO show was even better than the one on my birthday, because if I'd seen them then, it would have cost me around 40 bucks. At the base hangar of NATTC? 5 bucks.

And the concert ROCKED!
Steppenwolf was my first concert, ever!!

It was the Fall/Autumn o' '68....at the Water Street Armory; Scranton, PA.

The opening-band was Hydralic Peach!!! LOL!!! They had a lead-singer who sounded (almost, exactly) like Janis Joplin.

I think tickets were around $3.75

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John Kay always had a pretty-cool bio.....


.....for being a left-wing agitator.....but, not everyone's hip-enough to be an Aries! :cool:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-7uwshsfFI]Steppenwolf - Monster - YouTube[/ame]
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I was looking at the thread title. The Civil War was also a conflict between an agrarian economy, and the beginnings of industrialization. Northern "wage slavery" was no utopia for "free" workers. Most jobs paid barely enough to live on, no protection for workers either. Become ill, or unable to work-out the door one went. Child labor was also allowed in many Northern states.

A slave in the south was a little bit better off than the wage slave of the north. The company had hold of the wage slave of the north because they did not make enough money to pay for their credit with the company store and if you owed the company store you could not leave that company.

You had to house yourself put clothes on your back take care of yourself if you were hurt or sick. At least the slave had food on his table clothes on his back and if he became hurt or sick he wasn't kicked out because he couldn't pay for his house and he had food on his table. Sad either one couldn't freely move about.

It would depend on the slave owner; for the most part however, Northern "wage slavery" was certainly not a "free" existence. Workers were often OWNED by the companies.......16 Tons is often called the first "protest" song.

Too many people have been taught the Uncle Tom's cabin version of the south. Were some slaves mistreated? Yes they were. But why would someone invest a lot of money into a slave just to cause it harm?
 
Yeah I know.
Dixie Chicks dis president - unpatriotic has beens
Ted disses president - patriot

The warped mind of neocon whackjobs at work....

The Dixie Chicks were never cancelled from any venue that I know of for Natalie shooting her mouth off.

She dissed their base. People just decided to no longer go to their concerts.

They were banned from radio stations....

They did not diss their base, they dissed a moron...That aside, I like them, and I am nto their base...shrug,,,

Stop making excuses for the motor mouth from Detroit....He is getting what he sows...

They did dis their base. And I didn't like them long before Maines opened her mouth. I listen to Country Music and from the time they came out with the song, "Good-bye Earl" (long before the incident) I would turn the radio off if any of their songs were played. Radio stations had every right to play their music if desired. I had every right to turn the radio off if they did.

Radio stations also had every right not to play their music after the incident. Just as Fort Knox has every right not to engage Ted Nugent if the staff at Fort Knox does not want him there for whatever reason.

The Dixie Chicks were not an issue of "free speech". The firing of Whoopie Goldberg was not an issue of "free speech". These were private matters between two parties in a contract.

The Nugent issue is not really a free speech issue either, but it is border line only because a branch of the federal government is a party of the contract.

Immie
 
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I wonder if Hank Williams, Jr. will be there...?

I hope the Dixie Chicks are invited. They are great American patriots.
The dixie chicks are idiots. Then I can see where you would love them. Hank Jr and Ted have more class then them three....
Yeah....so classy they qualify for VIP-seating at all the best dog-fights.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBgmbXBOb8]Dixie Chicks - Travelin' Soldier - YouTube[/ame]​
 
A slave in the south was a little bit better off than the wage slave of the north. The company had hold of the wage slave of the north because they did not make enough money to pay for their credit with the company store and if you owed the company store you could not leave that company.

You had to house yourself put clothes on your back take care of yourself if you were hurt or sick. At least the slave had food on his table clothes on his back and if he became hurt or sick he wasn't kicked out because he couldn't pay for his house and he had food on his table. Sad either one couldn't freely move about.

It would depend on the slave owner; for the most part however, Northern "wage slavery" was certainly not a "free" existence. Workers were often OWNED by the companies.......16 Tons is often called the first "protest" song.

Too many people have been taught the Uncle Tom's cabin version of the south. Were some slaves mistreated? Yes they were. But why would someone invest a lot of money into a slave just to cause it harm?

Slaves were not humans to some in the South, nor were factory workers humans to some in the North. While a slave killing a non slave was a much more serious crime than a plantation owner killing a slave in the South, other plantation owners often took revenge. Not just because of the threat of slave rebellion, but to place emphasis on the value of the labor.

In Northern "wage slavery", an injured child worker could be left to die for example, as the factory owner owed no "duty of care", IN SOME STATES.
 
I am continually amazed at the depth of Obama Derangement Syndrome. It is so pervasive that people reflexively defend someone as vile as Ted Nugent.

But you were fine with Booooooosh Derangement Syndrome or Palin Deerangement Syndrome.

Were you? Are you admitting that the defense of Nugent on this is ODS, or are you now embracing something you once considered idiocy?
 
Nugent doesn't do drugs. His only addiction has been to sex. And to hunting of course.

Ted Nugent is the Lead Spokeman for D.A R E.



A recipient of numerous commendations from law enforcement agencies nationwide, Ted has been lauded for his Ted Nugent Kamp for Kids and Freedom's Angels, work as a national spokesman for D.A.R.E., and as Ambassador for Big Brothers Big Sisters and the Pass It On-Mentors Program.

Ted, White, and Blue

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It would depend on the slave owner; for the most part however, Northern "wage slavery" was certainly not a "free" existence. Workers were often OWNED by the companies.......16 Tons is often called the first "protest" song.

Too many people have been taught the Uncle Tom's cabin version of the south. Were some slaves mistreated? Yes they were. But why would someone invest a lot of money into a slave just to cause it harm?

Slaves were not humans to some in the South, nor were factory workers humans to some in the North. While a slave killing a non slave was a much more serious crime than a plantation owner killing a slave in the South, other plantation owners often took revenge. Not just because of the threat of slave rebellion, but to place emphasis on the value of the labor.

In Northern "wage slavery", an injured child worker could be left to die for example, as the factory owner owed no "duty of care", IN SOME STATES.

Slaves/ blacks weren't considered human to some in the north.
 
Too many people have been taught the Uncle Tom's cabin version of the south. Were some slaves mistreated? Yes they were. But why would someone invest a lot of money into a slave just to cause it harm?

Slaves were not humans to some in the South, nor were factory workers humans to some in the North. While a slave killing a non slave was a much more serious crime than a plantation owner killing a slave in the South, other plantation owners often took revenge. Not just because of the threat of slave rebellion, but to place emphasis on the value of the labor.

In Northern "wage slavery", an injured child worker could be left to die for example, as the factory owner owed no "duty of care", IN SOME STATES.

Slaves/ blacks weren't considered human to some in the north.

Yes, nor were immigrants from certain countries. The North had no moral superiority when it came down to profit vs. decency.
 
…that clearly shows that it was a political decision…

Not necessarily, as already noted, a president is both a political figure and the C-in-C, one would need to provide evidence the decision was predicated on the former.

The statement is contradictory as to rationale, however - was Nugent not allowed to attend due to his statements concerning the C-in-C or because his statements could be construed as partisan?

In any event, one would need to establish that Major General Smith was an Obama supporter, that Smith wanted to silence political opposition, and that Nugent was prohibited from performing accordingly. Without such evidence it can’t be stated the decision was political.

And it’s also been established that the decision – whatever the motive or rationale – was in no way a violation of ‘free speech’ or placed liberty in jeopardy, as the OP incorrectly contends.
 
Nugent Ousted From Fort Knox Concert Line-Up

Ted Nugent has been booted from the line-up at an annual Fort Knox summer concert following his recent comments about President Barack Obama, a Fort Knox representative confirmed to The Blaze.

The decision to oust Nugent came after “recent disparaging remarks made against the commander in chief,” Ryan Brus of the Fort Knox public affairs office said.

Because the concert is taking place on a military installation, it “would be a conflict of interest since the military has the obligation to be apolitical,” he said.

Brus said they don‘t look at political or social views when booking performers but that Nugent’s comments about the commander in chief crossed the line.

Brus said Major General Jefforey Smith, commanding general at Fort Knox, made the final decision to cancel Nugent’s appearance.

Apolitical my ass...

Dixie Chicks ring a bell? The right wing went hysterical over a rather benign comment by lead vocalist Maines who said:

"we don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States (George W. Bush) is from Texas".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7RSHzUvRWQ]Primetime Live, Landslide: The Dixie Chicks 1/5 - YouTube[/ame]​
 
A lot of what Nugent says is just shtick. He is an entertainer after all.

But the military can't endorse someone who has publically been disrespectful of the CINC.

Regardless of who occupies the White House.

Cons can't wrap their heads around that because they think the military is some sort of GOP auxiliary.
It's neither party's auxiliary, as it should be.


I just think the hysterics over Nugent are too funny for words!

I think he is awesome!

Absolutely agree with the first.

Personally, I find Nugent dishonest and dull.

Do you really think he never smoked pot in the 60s and 70s?

That's what the brochure says.......now.​

October 1977

"I was extremely antidrug as I’ve always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded motherfucker. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn’t know and I’m vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin."


Yeah.....he was really a drug-virgin.​
 
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The so-called 'tolerant' are turning out to be not so much...

Well, i never bought into the notion Socialists/Progressives were tolerant. I knew that was B.S. all along. Socialists/Progressives do not stand up for Free Speech. In fact, no other Socialists/Communists on this earth do either. So why do so many think our Socialists here would be so different? They are what they are. It really is that simple.

Yep. Liberals and Progressives are some of the most hateful people a person will ever run into.
.....Until you're old-enough to leave you backyard.


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Has any of the usual rw dittoheads been able to say why a concert promoter or a concert goer should be forced to pay for or listen to anything they don''t want listen to?

Nugent is a foul piece of shit but he has the right to spout hate if he wants to. He does not have the right to talk about shooting the president of the United States because, as he said, he's a "coyote on the couch". Nor does he have the right poach wildlife.

And, none of should be forced to support that.

Deal with it.
 
Has any of the usual rw dittoheads been able to say why a concert promoter or a concert goer should be forced to pay for or listen to anything they don''t want listen to?

Nugent is a foul piece of shit but he has the right to spout hate if he wants to. He does not have the right to talk about shooting the president of the United States because, as he said, he's a "coyote on the couch". Nor does he have the right poach wildlife.

And, none of should be forced to support that.

Deal with it.

Credability issue there Nerdite?

Project much? Fax Machine in fult tilt?

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