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Obama and the US economy!

Obama's job growth didn't even keep pace with population growth
Actually it did, but not by much. He never achieved 3% growth. A new all time failure.

Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
What exactly are you babbling about? Obama gave away nearly a trillion dollars in one year with his magic stimulus. It was a dud. Mirage? Sigh...

You are the one babbling, while weaving and dodging simple facts.

Bush posted brief 4% growth GDP only due to about-to-explode bubble growth.

Any sane person would instead take Obama's record of stable growth.
The bubble... the one he warned about many times and asked Dems to address? That bubble? Maybe you don't remember that far back, but W (who I hated) managed to work through several major disasters. 9/11 and Katrina put a damper on things.

On the other side you had that imbecile, Barney Frank, go on tv the week of the meltdown, and lie his ass off saying everything was great. Then the end of the week happened.

Stop. Seriously. Just fucking stop. you are posting PURE FABRICATIONS.

Bush administration certainly did not see the real estate and finance bubble coming and was long a big proponent of home ownership. Anyone that hasn't been under the rock in those years knows this. Greenspan is still licking his wounds of shame to this day, but he was man enough to admit the error of his market assumptions.

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Lots of different views in the forum of course, but any month that sheds 10,000 government jobs, and adds 227,000 private sector jobs is a good one.

Except when Obama is in the office of course.

Can you provide an example of when that happened?
Change the channel and get real news...
jobs_110615_chart1.png

And the government jobs are where there? Oh! Nowhere you say? FAIL!
So dumb, dupe.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjlgdbLyMjSAhUi34MKHe_8C3EQFggsMAM&url=https://newrepublic.com/article/118954/public-sector-payrolls-under-obama-much-lower-other-presidents&usg=AFQjCNGacmCVS5iJRNBvvk2l3Uyd3XFUVg&sig2=T4SPF-o-PAH_-Bi8g7ZJLQ
GRAPH: Government Employment Is Way Down Under Obama
BY DANNY VINIK
August 4, 2014


Republicans often like to claim that President Barack Obama has massively increased the size of government. Settling on an exact measure of "size" is difficult, but one easy way to examine it is to look at the change in public sector jobs during his administration. By that measure, the government has shrunk significantly over the past five plus years. Bill McBride, who runs the terrific economic blog Calculated Risk, has put together an updated graph of public sector payrolls under different presidents. Take a look:

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I'll try again because I don't know the answer. How many months did Obama shed at least 10,000 government jobs. It's a loaded question, I understand that. State, local etc. I'm just curious.
 
Lots of different views in the forum of course, but any month that sheds 10,000 government jobs, and adds 227,000 private sector jobs is a good one.

Except when Obama is in the office of course.

Can you provide an example of when that happened?
Change the channel and get real news...
jobs_110615_chart1.png

And the government jobs are where there? Oh! Nowhere you say? FAIL!
From link, dupe.
GRAPH: Government Employment Is Way Down Under Obama
BY DANNY VINIK
August 4, 2014


Republicans often like to claim that President Barack Obama has massively increased the size of government. Settling on an exact measure of "size" is difficult, but one easy way to examine it is to look at the change in public sector jobs during his administration. By that measure, the government has shrunk significantly over the past five plus years. Bill McBride, who runs the terrific economic blog Calculated Risk, has put together an updated graph of public sector payrolls under different presidents. Take a look:

e1507bfc2ea0deec4bf115f898a33ca85adea0c8.jpeg
 
Actually it did, but not by much. He never achieved 3% growth. A new all time failure.

Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
What exactly are you babbling about? Obama gave away nearly a trillion dollars in one year with his magic stimulus. It was a dud. Mirage? Sigh...

You are the one babbling, while weaving and dodging simple facts.

Bush posted brief 4% growth GDP only due to about-to-explode bubble growth.

Any sane person would instead take Obama's record of stable growth.
The bubble... the one he warned about many times and asked Dems to address? That bubble? Maybe you don't remember that far back, but W (who I hated) managed to work through several major disasters. 9/11 and Katrina put a damper on things.

On the other side you had that imbecile, Barney Frank, go on tv the week of the meltdown, and lie his ass off saying everything was great. Then the end of the week happened.

Stop. Seriously. Just fucking stop. you are posting PURE FABRICATIONS.

Bush administration certainly did not see the real estate and finance bubble coming. Anyone that hasn't been under the rock in those years knows this. Greenspan is still licking his wounds of shame to this day, but he was man enough to admit the error of his market assumptions.
Now you are just being a partisan dick. W made numerous appeals. Barney Frank and that other moron, Dodd, continued to lie to you. Lots of video on the topic.
 
I'll try again because I don't know the answer. How many months did Obama shed at least 10,000 government jobs. It's a loaded question, I understand that. State, local etc. I'm just curious.
GRAPH: Government Employment Is Way Down Under Obama
BY DANNY VINIK
August 4, 2014


Republicans often like to claim that President Barack Obama has massively increased the size of government. Settling on an exact measure of "size" is difficult, but one easy way to examine it is to look at the change in public sector jobs during his administration. By that measure, the government has shrunk significantly over the past five plus years. Bill McBride, who runs the terrific economic blog Calculated Risk, has put together an updated graph of public sector payrolls under different presidents. Take a look:

e1507bfc2ea0deec4bf115f898a33ca85adea0c8.jpeg
 
Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
What exactly are you babbling about? Obama gave away nearly a trillion dollars in one year with his magic stimulus. It was a dud. Mirage? Sigh...

You are the one babbling, while weaving and dodging simple facts.

Bush posted brief 4% growth GDP only due to about-to-explode bubble growth.

Any sane person would instead take Obama's record of stable growth.
The bubble... the one he warned about many times and asked Dems to address? That bubble? Maybe you don't remember that far back, but W (who I hated) managed to work through several major disasters. 9/11 and Katrina put a damper on things.

On the other side you had that imbecile, Barney Frank, go on tv the week of the meltdown, and lie his ass off saying everything was great. Then the end of the week happened.

Stop. Seriously. Just fucking stop. you are posting PURE FABRICATIONS.

Bush administration certainly did not see the real estate and finance bubble coming. Anyone that hasn't been under the rock in those years knows this. Greenspan is still licking his wounds of shame to this day, but he was man enough to admit the error of his market assumptions.
Now you are just being a partisan dick. W made numerous appeals. Barney Frank and that other moron, Dodd, continued to lie to you. Lots of video on the topic.
EVERYONE saw it coming by 2008, but OF COURSE said not to worry. Fanny and FR had little to do with it, their share of the market went from about 75% to 30% in 2003 or so- Countrywide and GOP scams took over DUHHH.. Superdupes...
 
Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
What exactly are you babbling about? Obama gave away nearly a trillion dollars in one year with his magic stimulus. It was a dud. Mirage? Sigh...

You are the one babbling, while weaving and dodging simple facts.

Bush posted brief 4% growth GDP only due to about-to-explode bubble growth.

Any sane person would instead take Obama's record of stable growth.
The bubble... the one he warned about many times and asked Dems to address? That bubble? Maybe you don't remember that far back, but W (who I hated) managed to work through several major disasters. 9/11 and Katrina put a damper on things.

On the other side you had that imbecile, Barney Frank, go on tv the week of the meltdown, and lie his ass off saying everything was great. Then the end of the week happened.

Stop. Seriously. Just fucking stop. you are posting PURE FABRICATIONS.

Bush administration certainly did not see the real estate and finance bubble coming. Anyone that hasn't been under the rock in those years knows this. Greenspan is still licking his wounds of shame to this day, but he was man enough to admit the error of his market assumptions.
Now you are just being a partisan dick. W made numerous appeals. Barney Frank and that other moron, Dodd, continued to lie to you. Lots of video on the topic.

I'm not. I've been through these conversations and process of recession-causes fact discovery more times than you got fingers.

W's appeals had little-to-nothing to do with foreseeing Great Recession. PERIOD. His admin NEVER claimed such a thing, only ignorant rightwingers like you do.
 
Lots of different views in the forum of course, but any month that sheds 10,000 government jobs, and adds 227,000 private sector jobs is a good one.

Except when Obama is in the office of course.

Can you provide an example of when that happened?
Change the channel and get real news...
jobs_110615_chart1.png

And the government jobs are where there? Oh! Nowhere you say? FAIL!
From link, dupe.
GRAPH: Government Employment Is Way Down Under Obama
BY DANNY VINIK
August 4, 2014


Republicans often like to claim that President Barack Obama has massively increased the size of government. Settling on an exact measure of "size" is difficult, but one easy way to examine it is to look at the change in public sector jobs during his administration. By that measure, the government has shrunk significantly over the past five plus years. Bill McBride, who runs the terrific economic blog Calculated Risk, has put together an updated graph of public sector payrolls under different presidents. Take a look:

e1507bfc2ea0deec4bf115f898a33ca85adea0c8.jpeg
It is an interesting read. Not sure of all the methodologies and do not know if it takes in all the nuanced changes in how the tallies are formulated, but interesting. Thanks for posting it.
 
Except when Obama is in the office of course.

Can you provide an example of when that happened?
Change the channel and get real news...
jobs_110615_chart1.png

And the government jobs are where there? Oh! Nowhere you say? FAIL!
From link, dupe.
GRAPH: Government Employment Is Way Down Under Obama
BY DANNY VINIK
August 4, 2014


Republicans often like to claim that President Barack Obama has massively increased the size of government. Settling on an exact measure of "size" is difficult, but one easy way to examine it is to look at the change in public sector jobs during his administration. By that measure, the government has shrunk significantly over the past five plus years. Bill McBride, who runs the terrific economic blog Calculated Risk, has put together an updated graph of public sector payrolls under different presidents. Take a look:

e1507bfc2ea0deec4bf115f898a33ca85adea0c8.jpeg
It is an interesting read. Not sure of all the methodologies and do not know if it takes in all the nuanced changes in how the tallies are formulated, but interesting. Thanks for posting it.
If you know the facts, you're a DEM. Pretty simple.
 
Another lying Alt Fact OP.

Clinton and Bush and a Republican Congress set up the Great Recession.

Obama and a generally Republican Congress rebuilt the national economy into a booming powerhouse.

Trump is there to catch the wave, nothing more.
Booming? Did he ever surpass 3% annual growth? How about the year he gave away nearly a trillion dollars in a desperate attempt to stimulate growth?
Under 5% nationally and at 3.1% in Utah. Yes, people are working and getting ahead, not thanks to the admins before 2009. You are attacking a fortress with a pea shooter.
 
Job growth up huge already under Trump

But when Obama posted months with even more growth you for some reason didn't call it huge, you called it stagnant.

Can you explain the double standard?
Obama's job growth didn't even keep pace with population growth
Actually it did, but not by much. He never achieved 3% growth. A new all time failure.

Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
With a decade of almost o% interest, there is a lot of money sloshing around look for opportunities to make money, thus driving over valuation. Look at the stock market. Do not be surprised if within four years we have a recession that makes 2008 and 2009 look mild.
 
Another lying Alt Fact OP.

Clinton and Bush and a Republican Congress set up the Great Recession.

Obama and a generally Republican Congress rebuilt the national economy into a booming powerhouse.

Trump is there to catch the wave, nothing more.
Booming? Did he ever surpass 3% annual growth? How about the year he gave away nearly a trillion dollars in a desperate attempt to stimulate growth?
Under 5% nationally and at 3.1% in Utah. Yes, people are working and getting ahead, not thanks to the admins before 2009. You are attacking a fortress with a pea shooter.
Which year did he surpass 3% growth? I can't seem to find it.
 
Another lying Alt Fact OP.

Clinton and Bush and a Republican Congress set up the Great Recession.

Obama and a generally Republican Congress rebuilt the national economy into a booming powerhouse.

Trump is there to catch the wave, nothing more.
Booming? Did he ever surpass 3% annual growth? How about the year he gave away nearly a trillion dollars in a desperate attempt to stimulate growth?
Under 5% nationally and at 3.1% in Utah. Yes, people are working and getting ahead, not thanks to the admins before 2009. You are attacking a fortress with a pea shooter.
Which year did he surpass 3% growth? I can't seem to find it.
You set a false standard, were rebuked, and now coming back to a false standard. Run along.
 
Job growth up huge already under Trump

But when Obama posted months with even more growth you for some reason didn't call it huge, you called it stagnant.

Can you explain the double standard?
Obama's job growth didn't even keep pace with population growth
Actually it did, but not by much. He never achieved 3% growth. A new all time failure.

Which is more than made up by ALSO NOT GETTING US INTO A FUCKING RECESSION.

What good is 4% growth if it is nothing but a mirage right before the bubble explodes?
With a decade of almost o% interest, there is a lot of money sloshing around look for opportunities to make money, thus driving over valuation. Look at the stock market. Do not be surprised if within four years we have a recession that makes 2008 and 2009 look mild.
Don't disagree. If Trump is successful in returning offshore money things will zoom out of control. It can be done correctly, but I have some doubts about Trump's ability to execute it in a way that is beneficial to the average wage earners. Stay safe with majority of your investments. Btw... you remember who was in charge the last eight years, right?
 
With a decade of almost o% interest, there is a lot of money sloshing around look for opportunities to make money, thus driving over valuation. Look at the stock market. Do not be surprised if within four years we have a recession that makes 2008 and 2009 look mild
Is that what you are hoping for?
 
With a decade of almost o% interest, there is a lot of money sloshing around look for opportunities to make money, thus driving over valuation. Look at the stock market. Do not be surprised if within four years we have a recession that makes 2008 and 2009 look mild
Is that what you are hoping for?
Nope but am preparing for it like I did in 2008 and 2009.
 
Another lying Alt Fact OP.

Clinton and Bush and a Republican Congress set up the Great Recession.

Obama and a generally Republican Congress rebuilt the national economy into a booming powerhouse.

Trump is there to catch the wave, nothing more.
Booming? Did he ever surpass 3% annual growth? How about the year he gave away nearly a trillion dollars in a desperate attempt to stimulate growth?
Under 5% nationally and at 3.1% in Utah. Yes, people are working and getting ahead, not thanks to the admins before 2009. You are attacking a fortress with a pea shooter.
Which year did he surpass 3% growth? I can't seem to find it.
You set a false standard, were rebuked, and now coming back to a false standard. Run along.
Wrong. I simply pointed out that despite nearly doubling the debt his failed policies never achieved 3% growth. Do you work at McDonalds?
 

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