Obama asking for open ended power to go to war

[Geaux4it]

Try me.

In my opinion, the "plan" is maintain the status quo at all costs.

I'm not so sure it's not a good plan, actually.

Personally, I think Obama's plan is to not get congressional approval, and then blame the Republicans. Funny thing, I doubt the Republicans will vote against this, which will leave him on the hook for drawing a line he had no intention of enforcing in the first place.

It's time to not worry about the blame game. This country has been taken over by loons who are driving us down the crapper. Vote this Syria charade down and move on.

-Geaux

 

[Synthaholic]

Obama asking for open ended power to go to war

Psst! He already has the power.

Psst, I suggest you go read this and come back and tell me how stupid you feel.

How does that refute what I said?

 

[Synthaholic]

I've been saying that Obama was just another Bush for years now, and Righties have been telling me that he's a radical Muslim Socialist.

Which is it? Or was Bush a radical Muslim Socialist too?

You're not looking at it correctly. You don't become president if you're not on board with the plan. Doesn't matter if we elect the Easter Bunny.

You don't become President if you don't also have a family, with the unspoken threat ever-present.

The powers that be will never let this country ever elect a bachelor, with no ties. Too dangerous to them.

 

[Katzndogz]

The U.S. can't afford to put boots on the ground there. Can't even afford a no fly zone.

Which is why we need to have a clear policy in place. If we don't, we might end up using nukes to prevent WMDs from getting out of Syria.

I cannot see that ending well.

IF WMDs got into Syria, they can get out of Syria. Or just go straight from Saudi Arabia to their new location.

 

[Synthaholic]

Does Obama really want war with his muslim brothers?

I doubt it...... he just want to have some fireworks over there.... then come back.

He is too weak for real war, so don't fear all of you who are afraid that he can make a proper war....

he said it ..it's a limited surgical war ...whatever that means.

Surgical war?????? yes...a Liberal war.

in other words... a joke of a war.

Yep.

A "surgical" war like the Balkans..you know..where no Americans were killed? And we achieved all of our objectives?

But the Iraq war was so much better.

4000 Americans aren't going home to their families.

They went home to a grave.

Why do you keep pointing to the Balkans like it was a huge success? Even if we accept that toppling the government there was a good thing, how does that compare with Obama not wanting to topple the government in Syria? Are you aware that there are people that directly blame the UN, and Clinton, for the deplorable state of human trafficking, aka slavery, in that region? How about the fact that there is evidence that the cancer rate in that area is higher because of all the depleted uranium that was used to take out armor?

Or, perhaps, you are just grasping at straws because your idol wants to do something you would categorically oppose if he wasn't black.

You must be simple-minded to believe each situation is identical.

 

[deltex1]

Now I can see why he wants to go to Congress under the guise of getting permission to strike Syria. If he gets what he wants he will be free to order an invasion if he thinks Syria is moving the weapons, or if he thinks terrorists will win and get their hands on them.

(a) Authorization. -- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in connection with the use of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in the conflict in Syria in order to --
(1) prevent or deter the use or proliferation (including the transfer to terrorist groups or other state or non-state actors), within, to or from Syria, of any weapons of mass destruction, including chemical or biological weapons or components of or materials used in such weapons; or
(2) protect the United States and its allies and partners against the threat posed by such weapons.

Text of Obama's draft legislation - CNN.com

Tell me again how different he is from Bush.

The only thing open ended about Obabble is his ass.

 

[Synthaholic]

All of the Congresscritters who are just there to do Israel's bidding will vote to attack.

Eric Cantor will be in favor, as will Chuck Schumer.

How many votes from that group, in addition to the Neo-Cons, like Lindsey Graham and John McCain?

 

[mudwhistle]

This pic was on Drudge today. Notice Obama putting his foot on the desk in the Oval Office.

What a pathetic lack of respect for an antique piece of furniture that has been in that office for longer than anyone alive.

Where did this asshole get his manners from?

Resolute Desk - White House Museum

 

[Synthaholic]

This pic was on Drudge today. Notice Obama putting his foot on the desk in the Oval Office.

What a pathetic lack of respect for an antique piece of furniture that has been in that office for longer than anyone alive.

Where did this asshole get his manners from?

Resolute Desk - White House Museum

Dumbass!

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't see anyone putting their sole on the desk literally standing on it. When he removes his foot it's going to scratch the shit out of the finish.

 

[mudwhistle]

I love the way these two-faced assholes like to treat their friends......

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama asking for open ended power to go to war

Psst! He already has the power.

Psst, I suggest you go read this and come back and tell me how stupid you feel.

How does that refute what I said?

Is English your second language?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Yep.

A "surgical" war like the Balkans..you know..where no Americans were killed? And we achieved all of our objectives?

But the Iraq war was so much better.

4000 Americans aren't going home to their families.

They went home to a grave.

Why do you keep pointing to the Balkans like it was a huge success? Even if we accept that toppling the government there was a good thing, how does that compare with Obama not wanting to topple the government in Syria? Are you aware that there are people that directly blame the UN, and Clinton, for the deplorable state of human trafficking, aka slavery, in that region? How about the fact that there is evidence that the cancer rate in that area is higher because of all the depleted uranium that was used to take out armor?

Or, perhaps, you are just grasping at straws because your idol wants to do something you would categorically oppose if he wasn't black.

You must be simple-minded to believe each situation is identical.

Not as simpleminded as the idiot that refuses to read.

I didn't bring it up, and I was pointing out the differences, what the fuck makes you think I believe it is identical.

 

[Synthaholic]

Psst, I suggest you go read this and come back and tell me how stupid you feel.

How does that refute what I said?

Is English your second language?

No. Is "wingnut" your first?

 

[NightFox]

This pic was on Drudge today. Notice Obama putting his foot on the desk in the Oval Office.

What a pathetic lack of respect for an antique piece of furniture that has been in that office for longer than anyone alive.

Where did this asshole get his manners from?

Resolute Desk - White House Museum

How else you do expect him to scrape all that U.S. Constitution off the bottom of his shoes?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

How does that refute what I said?

Is English your second language?

No. Is "wingnut" your first?

Sorry, I gave you to much credit. You don't speak it at all, that explains a lot.

 

[Plasmaball]

The U.S. can't afford to put boots on the ground there. Can't even afford a no fly zone.

Which is why we need to have a clear policy in place. If we don't, we might end up using nukes to prevent WMDs from getting out of Syria.

I cannot see that ending well.

We wont be using nukes. ..shut up

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The U.S. can't afford to put boots on the ground there. Can't even afford a no fly zone.

Which is why we need to have a clear policy in place. If we don't, we might end up using nukes to prevent WMDs from getting out of Syria.

I cannot see that ending well.

We wont be using nukes. ..shut up

Here are a few facts for you to consider.

• The only way to destroy chemical weapons is to subject them to intense heat.
• Unless we invade Syria with a force large enough to overwhelm both sides of the civil war instantaneously it will give someone time to move the existing weapons.
• Using conventional weapons, even fuel air bombs, will not guarantee the destruction of chemical weapons.
• If we bomb chemical weapons and they are not destroyed, they will be dispersed.
• We do have weapons at our disposal that would entirely eliminate the risk of any chemical weapon from being dispersed accidentally.

Please note, I am not saying we should use them I am just pointing out the inescapable fact that we only have a few options on how to deal with their spread.



None of then are acceptable, and only two are possible. One would force Obama to support Assad, the other would force him to nuke the ME and trigger WWIII.


Which one do you think makes more sense to Obama?