Obama Chose Dishonor...Now We Will Have War

[ScreamingEagle]

Amen to most of that, after the last two wars in third world shitholes to protect nothing more than the petro-dollar you would think that these damned war hawks would have cooled their jets at least a little bit, oh well, good thing there are less bloodthirsty people running things at the moment.

try to focus here.....we're not talking about those shitty wars.....we're talking about the nulclear armanment of a terrorist country....

HMMM It seems like the only country invading other countries is us.

you might read up a little on Iranian terrorism...

Iran and state terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr Natural]

Where's the money going to come from to fight this war?

China?

 

[Pennywise]

Obama Chose Dishonor...Now We Will Have War

You neo-cons are dishonorable with that type of nonsense have. Just shut up.

"neo-cons" belong in the Demrat party...so just shut yourself up....

Like Bill Kristol? Charles Krauthammer?

 

[Kondor3]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

The gist being that (1) Cowardly Inaction and Appeasement invite war, and (2) that what is happening in connection with the Iranian Nuclear Program is being billed as akin to the Cowardice and Appeasement that brought on the last big war.

It's not about the particulars... it's about the timeless qualities of Cowardice and Appeasement, and show-casing the lessons of the past as a companion to discussions of our present times.

 

[Borillar]

dimocrap self-defense course ~

So, what's the Repug self defense course? Immediately attack a random person that had nothing to do with the situation?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Obama Chose Dishonor...Now We Will Have War

You neo-cons are dishonorable with that type of nonsense have. Just shut up.

"neo-cons" belong in the Demrat party...so just shut yourself up....

Like Bill Kristol? Charles Krauthammer?

The term "neoconservative", which was used originally by a socialist to criticize the politics of Social Democrats, USA,[13] has since 1980 been used as a criticism against proponents of American modern liberalism who had become slightly more conservative[8][14]

The term "neoconservative" was the subject of increased media coverage during the presidency of George W. Bush,[15][16] with particular emphasis on a perceived neoconservative influence on American foreign policy, as part of the Bush Doctrine.[17] The term "neocon" is often used as pejorative in this context.

Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Uncensored2008]

What allies?

League of Nations. Set up by the Versailles Treaty to enforce the treaty, which everyone hated.

The 7th Ave. Bowling League was a more powerful military alliance....

 

[Uncensored2008]

HMMM It seems like the only country invading other countries is us.

You really are quite stupid.

I think that is a result of America hating - oh, and huffing spray paint - both of which you do in abundance....

 

[Avatar4321]

Conservatives want a war, period, anything that happens that delays the day that death rains down on the Iranian public is a horrible thing in their book. There is no reason for so many to die simply because a bunch of hardliners in three different countries are thirsty for the blood of innocents.

Yes we want war so much we are criticizing the President for putting us in a position where it can happen.

 

[Trajan]

I wonder if it was 'dishonorable' to negotiate with the Soviets?

The atmosphere of partisanship creeps in to poison foreign relations just as it has crept in to destroy our federal government. Conservative partisans should remember that partisanship ends at the water's edge.

uhm, theres a lot of democrats too, who think this is a bad deal.....

 

[Avatar4321]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

 

[Plasmaball]

Just think if this was romrom we would already be at war..would we see these threads from the op? Nope

 

[Plasmaball]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

Uh ww2 happened because of ww1. Ww3 wont be because we are doing the same thing that led to ww2.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Oh, horse ****.




Every time Obama sneezes the world ends.




MAKE IT STOP!!!

 

[Mr Natural]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

Germany and Japan were military superpowers. Iran is a backward third world nation.

See the difference?

 

[Trajan]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

Germany and Japan were military superpowers. Iran is a backward third world nation.

See the difference?

then why do certain folks keep telling us if we or israel attack them they'll set the ME aflame

 

[Sarah G]

Where's the money going to come from to fight this war?

China?

Oh, congress has all kinds of money to dole out as long as it's for war.

 

[Hollie]

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

Germany and Japan were military superpowers. Iran is a backward third world nation.

See the difference?

then why do certain folks keep telling us if we or israel attack them they'll set the ME aflame

The islamist Middle East is already aflame.

The sunnis/salafi/wahabbi contingent is currently at war in Syria with the shia/Alawite tribes. That little dalliance has yielded 120,000 dead.


The sunnis/salafi/wahabbi contingent is currently at war with the shia/Alawite tribes in Iraq. That on-going blood feud (on-going since the 7th century), results in the happy-fun asplodins' we see in market places and mosques.


Islamist Militias in Libya are so Koran-struck that the dead bodies are sprouting up like summer dandelions.


Egypt is a 24/7 party with the Brothas' still vying for a role in government.


The mindless, islamist ideologues who promote this madness live under a delusion, in a bygone age of war, conquest, slaughter and a meaningful impact on world politics. They are imprisoned by a violent and totalitarian mind-set that was relevant on the Arabian Peninsula fourteen centuries ago, but now only engenders hatred, death, and misery.

 

[Kondor3]

I think rather than talk about WWII we should be discussing the advantages of avoiding WWIII. Anyone want to take the position that we really should have another huge conflict that would certainly destabilize the world?

How exactly do we avoid WWIII by doing the same damn things that led to WWII?

Germany and Japan were military superpowers. Iran is a backward third world nation.

See the difference?

Iran without nuclear weapons is a third world nation.

Iran with nuclear weapons bolted on top of mid-range ballistic missile delivery systems is a military superpower, led by an opaque, medieval, dogmatic, martyrdom-encouraging, aggressive, hostile theocratic autocracy.

See the difference?

 

[dreolin]

I wonder if it was 'dishonorable' to negotiate with the Soviets?

The atmosphere of partisanship creeps in to poison foreign relations just as it has crept in to destroy our federal government. Conservative partisans should remember that partisanship ends at the water's edge.

I remember the "Duck and Cover" drills we had in school. Lived through them for several years.

I remember people constructing "Fallout Shelters" all over town. In the nicest neighborhoods and in the 'burbs as well.

I grew up with the ever-present possibility of a Nuclear Holocaust.

It was real.

And what did dimocrap scum do about it? Nothing. They appeased, they caved, they tried MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) we made DOZENS of movies about it, some of which are classics to this day.

And what did dimocrap scum do about it?

When they were in office, they caved, they groveled, they got on their knees and begged.

And when Patriotic Americans were in office (Republicans) they filled the airwaves with tales of terror, made movies about how "We're Gonna Fucking Die!".

They wrote op-eds about how we should just leave the commies alone and maybe they'd leave us alone.

They talked about co-existence, they talked about learning to live with communism, they talked about deterrence and MAD and....

They talked. And they talked

And then we got a REAL man in office who told the dimocrap scum to go suck a dick. Which is the ONE THING they do well.

And in a matter of a few years, he defeated the most evil empire in the history of man.

More evil snd more powerful than Nazi Germany. They had enslaved more people than Rome and Persia combined. And they were arrogant.

Republicans defeated them. And I'm telling you RIGHT FUCKING NOW..... With dimocrap scum fighting us the whole way.

Easy. Know how?

We stood up to them. I know that's something you can't envision, something you could never see yourself doing..... But Reagan stood up to them and told them flat out...... You fuck with me and we will turn your entire Country into a mass grave.

And you know what else? He fucking meant it.

So you know what dimocrap scum? Go back to worrying about whether men who fuck other men should be able to marry one another.

Go back to worrying about whether a woman should have the right to kill her unborn child (which your mothers should have done for you) or what Pop Culture Icon is fucking what other deviant Pop Culture Icon

Leave National Defense to Men. Real Men.

Now do us all a favor and make me a fucking sandwich, bitches

What branch of the service were you in?

I was in the 9th Infantry Division, III corps, in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

I always hope diplomacy works. It beats dodging bullets and, at state dinners, I bet they don't serve canned beefsteak, potatoes, and gravy, a concoction more lethal than bad guys with small arms.

JFK and Teddy Roosevelt seemed to rely heavily on diplomacy.

Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush didn't so much.

Perhaps when you look down the wrong end of the gun yourself, you are less inclined to ask others to do so.