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The fact that both governments can thumb their noses as Obama waffles. Please don't tell me China or Russia would alter any policy based on what Obama says or doesLBT 12721577China and russian have been laughing at our buffoon for years now.
LAUGHING ABOUT WHAT?
Oh please...Stop the nonsense.SJ 12721614Well one thing's for sure. Russia and China don't have anything to worry about with Obama.
Yepp. They don't have to worry about crashing the world economy like Bush did. Or starting dumb wars for no reason in the Gulf region. Although Bush did invade Iraq and drive up oil prices to over $120 a barrel so Russia made big bucks while Americans were getting killed in Iraq. I'm glad Obama has oil prices down and nothing like a hundred troops getting killed a month in an unnecessary war.
Yer kidding, right?LBT 12721637How gullible and easy it is to fool him.
Fool him about what?
HA!...That Iran Nuclear deal was an absolute capitulation.IlarM 12721775Evidently, EVERY thing.
Cite one specific incident where Obama was fooled by any specific foreigner on any specific foreign policy. You can't can you? Not even one.
Don't go thinking "gotcha"....You lost this one and you lost big.LBT 12722557Youre not too bright if you can't figure out that the mullahs just schooled him.
Schooled him on what? So it's the Mullahs - what did they school Obama about?
Why nothing but your continued vague non-answers?
Please rewrite your post so that it takes on the appearance of having a pointRight wingers' response to this thread CLEARLY show that either these right wingers have finally bowed their heads to Obama's clever rhetoric, or will still carry on their botching and moaning until January 2017.
In addition, I am happy to learn that right wingers NO LONGER consider FOX resembling...even remotely...to be a "media outlet", since their bitching that those GOP clown posse members ALSO complained that Fox moderators were "unfair."
Excuse me.. Did you have a point here?IlarM 12721839ay what you will about Trump, but his claims about how INEPT the Obumbler/Lurch nuclear "deal" with Iran is and how badly it was negotiated is clearly correct.
How can Trump's claim be correct? It's all hypothetical loudmouth politicized rabble-rousing. There is no validation or means to validate that Trump could have done better or held the sanctions coalition together. So calling him correct is as absurd as Trump is.
Excuse me.. Did you have a point here?IlarM 12721839ay what you will about Trump, but his claims about how INEPT the Obumbler/Lurch nuclear "deal" with Iran is and how badly it was negotiated is clearly correct.
How can Trump's claim be correct? It's all hypothetical loudmouth politicized rabble-rousing. There is no validation or means to validate that Trump could have done better or held the sanctions coalition together. So calling him correct is as absurd as Trump is.
Russia over ran Ukraine and annexed the Crimean peninsula. Obama made a speech telling Americans he is outraged. Russia giggled.
Excuse me.. Did you have a point here?
Don't go thinking "gotcha"....You lost this one and you lost big.
Not only did Obama give Iran $150 billion. He ended the sanctions. Finally, the deal allows....wait for it......The fucking Iranians to monitor themselves.
Does their not worrying have anything to do with Obama's "Red Lines"?
But since you opened the door. Please provide examples of how the Bush 43 admin "crashed the world's economy"....
Right.....Not a single drop of blood was shed. Nary a shot fired.nospoon 12754995Russia over ran Ukraine and annexed the Crimean peninsula. Obama made a speech telling Americans he is outraged. Russia giggled.
How was Obama fooled by the annexation of Crimea? The majority of Crimeams overwhelmingly wanted to be rejoined with Russia. Constitutional government in Kiev was shattered due to violence against the elected President and Political Party of Ukraine. Crimeans had the right and freedom to sever ties with Kiev as well as request assistance and protection from Moscow. Obama was not fooled. He was first to recognize that Crimea was not going back to what it was prior to the coup and overthrow of the elected government in Kiev.
Russia has not overran Ukraine. You have been fooled by somebody to make such an exaggeration.
Ahh...No it doesn't.....The military budget is what it is....But since you opened the door. Please provide examples of how the Bush 43 admin "crashed the world's economy"....
He invaded Iraq when oil was at $40 a barrel. The subsequent ill managed quagmire there drove oil price to well over $100 per barrel. That put a strain on the global economy - crippling what consumers could spend money on. Then he cut taxes for the rich during his dumb war driving up the U.S. Federal debt - paying for his war on credit. That's the easy ones - that should suffice.
And you right wingers blame the current president for all that happens on his watch.
Just practice what you preach now by applying it to Bush43. The worst recession since the Great Depression happened on his watch - as his watch was ending. And of course 9/11 happened on his watch and what did that cost all our NATO partners that joined our military and diplomatic effort in Afghanistan?
Increased spending on wars curtails domestic spending - some of which could have helped to diminish the challenges of an economic downturn.
Huge mistake it was to invade Iraq when UN inspectors could have disarmed Iraq without war. So Bush "the decider" decided that one entirely on his own.
You have to admit, he is right.
. Right.....Not a single drop of blood was shed. Nary a shot fired. Oh defender of Obama at any cost, here is a newsflash for you....No US President worth their salt would have allowed the Russian Federation to go unscathed with such an act of imperialism.
Tax cuts? Are you kidding?.....The reduction in across the board tax rates resulted in increased revenue.
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When the US invaded Iraq in March 2003, the Bush administration estimated that it would cost $50-60bn to overthrow Saddam Hussein and establish a functioning government. This estimate was catastrophically wrong: the war in Iraq has cost $823.2bn between 2003 and 2011. Some estimates suggesting that it may eventually cost as much as $3.7tnwhen factoring in the long-term costs of caring for the wounded and the families of those killed.
The most striking fact about the cost of the war in Iraq has been the extent to which it has been kept "off the books" of the government's ledgers and hidden from the American people. This was done by design. A fundamental assumption of the Bush administration's approach to the war was that it was only politically sustainable if it was portrayed as near-costless to the American public and to key constituencies in Washington. The dirty little secret of the Iraq war – one that both Bush and the war hawks in the Democratic party knew, but would never admit – was that the American people would only support a war to get rid of Saddam Hussein if they could be assured that they would pay almost nothing for it.
The most obvious way in which the true cost of this war was kept hidden was with the use of supplemental appropriations to fund the occupation. By one estimate, 70% of the costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan between 2003 and 2008 were funded with supplemental or emergency appropriations approved outside the Pentagon's annual budget. These appropriations allowed the Bush administration to shield the Pentagon's budget from the cuts otherwise needed to finance the war, to keep the Pentagon's pet programs intact and to escape the scrutiny that Congress gives to its normal annual regular appropriations.
With the Iraq war treated as an "off the books" expense, the Pentagon was allowed to keep spending on high-end military equipment and cutting-edge technology. In fiscal terms, it was as if the messy wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were never happening.
