Obama’s Iraq Surrender

[rdean]

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 31:

First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The state takes care of public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and medical institutions.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

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How much more evidence do you need besides the Iraqi constitution?

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think we need to pull totally the fuck out of the middle east and put the resources into building America.
-Infrastructure
-Technology
-Science

We should follow the road map we once did and do what China's currently doing.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 31:

First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The state takes care of public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and medical institutions.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

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How much more evidence do you need besides the Iraqi constitution?

Still a religion running the law of a country kind of sucks.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Bush made no agreement to pull out of Iraq,he only talked of pull out when the Republicans lost the WH.

This....from August 2008 - you know, BEFORE the elections Try again....

The agreement has already been approved by US President George W Bush and now needs to be endorsed by Iraqi leaders, he added.

Iraq and the US had agreed to "withdraw the US troops from Iraq by end of 2011," Mr Hammoud said.

US troops to pull out of Iraq by 2011: negotiator - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Bush wouldn't finalize it with the Iraq until after the election.

 

[American_Jihad]

That was the George W. Bush surrender. Your OP makes it clear that you care nothing about the troops.

What troops, obongo surrendered and pulled all troops out. No troops in Iraq...

Well obongo said we won the war, so according to you Bush won the war...

Obama said he would not let Americans be tried in Iraqi courts.

That is what OamericanOjihad wants: Americans tried by Iraqis.

Fuck OamericanOjihad and the camel he rode in on.

Snarkey, no camels here chump, got plenty of dolphins though. Hey if your in the area stop buy I have a couple of pet sharks you can check out...

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[Moonglow]

Should have left Saddam in power.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Beginning to look that way as Iraq is allying with Iran and Syria, all with the backing of Russia.

 

[rdean]

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 31:

First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The state takes care of public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and medical institutions.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

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How much more evidence do you need besides the Iraqi constitution?

Still a religion running the law of a country kind of sucks.

Kind of? Republicans supported that there because they want it here.

 

[rdean]

Should have left Saddam in power.

It's not that. It was the invasion of Iraq. Where was Bush Sr. saying this was a "good" idea?

 

[American_Jihad]

Obama’s Ongoing Betrayal of America’s Sacrifices in Iraq


October 16, 2013 By Arnold Ahlert

On Oct. 5, a suicide bombing just outside a graveyard in Baghdad killed 51 people, many of them Shi’ite pilgrims on their way to a shrine. The attack, commonplace in today’s Iraq, is symptomatic of a nation once again on the brink of civil war. This disintegration may have been preventable were it not for President Obama’s politically-motivated premature withdrawal of American troops from the country in December 2011, against the advice of military advisors. Now, as Al Qaeda surges and murders Iraqi civilians by the dozen, it is clearer than ever that Obama’s perfidious actions have made a mockery of the enormous sacrifices of thousands of American soldiers.

The ongoing deterioration of Iraq has become yesterday’s news. Yet in July, more than 1,000 Iraqis were killed by bombs and gunfire, marking the deadliest month since violence between Sunni and Shi’ite sects reached its apex between 2006 and 2008. Kenneth Katzman, an analyst of Middle Eastern affairs for the Congressional Research Service, illuminated the fundamental problem. “The growing Sunni rebellion in Iraq has fueled the resurgence [of al Qaeda in Iraq], as has the fact that the U.S. isn’t there providing intelligence, backstopping the Iraqi security forces or continuing to train and keep up their skill levels,” he explained.

The U.S. isn’t there because Obama failed to negotiate a new Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq’s nascent government. Obama claimed Iraqi intransigence was to blame for the failure, because they wouldn’t grant U.S. troops legal immunity if they were breaking Iraqi law. Yet as Max Boot explained in a 2011 Wall Street Journal article, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and other government officials had expressed the same reservation in 2008, when there were far more American troops in country. Nevertheless, President Bush was able to secure an agreement.

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It is being undone month in, month out, by an administration pathetically mean-spirited treatment of our veterans and dead soldiers during the government shutdown speaks far louder than any empty rhetoric offered by this president ever could. America has the finest fighting forces in the world. It is their Commander-in-Chief who is seriously lacking.

Obama?s Ongoing Betrayal of America?s Sacrifices in Iraq | FrontPage Magazine

 

[JakeStarkey]

All directly points to the Bush intervention and aftermath.

What a neocon disaster.

 

[American_Jihad]

All directly points to the Bush intervention and aftermath.

What a neocon disaster.

Snarkey, don't foget to thank the left-wing/dumbocon/dupes...

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[JakeStarkey]

The neo-cons adopted a failed liberal interventionist philosophy, AJ.

 

[Indofred]

It's a cluster fuck,

. Part of the driving force behind this meltdown, as observers are beginning to acknowledge, is of course the intractable sectarian war in Syria. But a far bigger part of the picture is the accelerating destabilization of Iraq.

Yes, I agree, it's been a real mess since the America put the Ba'ath party in power and supported Saddam's war against Iran after America's puppet dictator was tossed out of that country.

What, you didn't realise America put Ba'ath into power and actively supported Saddam?

This almighty cock up is little or nothing to do with Obama and a lot to do with a lot of previous governments. Obama was just left with their mess.

 

[Desperado]

It was Iraq that kicked the US out of their country, It was not abandon by the US.
If the US has their way, the US Military would still be there. Not to mention that the US should never
have been there in the first place. That was our first major mistake, pre-emptive wars can never be justified.

 

[Indofred]

Beginning to look that way as Iraq is allying with Iran and Syria, all with the backing of Russia.

America installed a dictatorship in Iraq, finally led by Saddam who killed by the thousand with American support.
America finally got around to realising they'd cocked up but instead of a sniper, they waged an illegal war that killed thousands more and allowed the rise of Islamic extremists in a country that had never suffered from that problem.

The county is now looking to Russia and Americans are shocked by this.
What the merry fuck do you expect?

 

[American_Jihad]

In Iraq, Obama’s abandonment leads to Al Qaeda comeback

By Dan Calabrese
Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Despite the narrative you may have bought, here is the fact. America won the Iraq War under the leadership of George W. Bush and through the skill and courage of the U.S. Armed Forces. It took longer than we wanted, longer than we expected, but we won.

But we won World War I too. Dumb postwar policies squandered the win and led to something even worse in vanquished Germany - and an even more threatening and deadly second World War. Now, post-war policies that are not only dumb but willfully counter to the cause of freedom appear to be pissing away the gains we won for freedom in Iraq.

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Yes. It would. It would have helped to keep Al Qaeda at bay, stemmed the influence of Iran and given Iraq a better opportunity to emerge as a rare, reliable ally in that region of the world. But none of this was ever a priority to Obama. Because he disagreed with the war, he felt no inclination to protect the gains we won there. The strategic interests of the U.S., not to mention the security of the Iraqis, meant nothing to him. So he bailed on the status of forces talks, and we left, giving Al Qaeda the green light to rise up and do what it does.

By the way, what do you think is going to happen in Afghanistan - which Obama used to think was the “good war” - when he follows through on his vow to pull out of there too?



In Iraq, Obama?s abandonment leads to Al Qaeda comeback

 

[Indofred]

America won the Iraq War under the leadership of George W. Bush and through the skill and courage of the U.S. Armed Forces. It took longer than we wanted, longer than we expected, but we won.

Yes, you only lost a few thousand troops and spend a few billion dollars to gain absolutely nothing.
A great victory; proven by the number of extremists you've allowed to grow in a country that previously had none.

 

[American_Jihad]

America won the Iraq War under the leadership of George W. Bush and through the skill and courage of the U.S. Armed Forces. It took longer than we wanted, longer than we expected, but we won.

Yes, you only lost a few thousand troops and spend a few billion dollars to gain absolutely nothing.
A great victory; proven by the number of extremists you've allowed to grow in a country that previously had none.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/8015080-post57.html

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[ScienceRocks]

I thought the republican party was against bombing terrorist? Looking at many post posted the last few days.