Obama, U mad? Let's compromise!

[bripat9643]

I'll give you the basic background checks, to which I have no objection, if you give us armed guards in schools! Deal?

Who's going to pay for those guards. Are you willing to eat a tax hike to pay for them?

We can take the money out of Obama's "green energy" program.

 

[asaratis]

I'll give you the basic background checks, to which I have no objection, if you give us armed guards in schools! Deal?

Who's going to pay for those guards. Are you willing to eat a tax hike to pay for them?

We can take the money out of Obama's "green energy" program.

Yes. He has backed so many winners, hasn't he? Throwing money to bankrupt green energy companies is Obie's way of stimulating the economy (and paying off his supporters).

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'll give you the basic background checks, to which I have no objection, if you give us armed guards in schools! Deal?

Thanks!

Basic Background Checks are what we wanna' use to eventually disqualify EVERYONE from owning a gun!

Federal Officers could be put into schools for a year or so then Govt can say they don't have the funding and yank them out.

But the Background Checks will stay of course!

 

[Bfgrn]

Take solace that no criminal or felon will care about any law you pass. At best, background checks prevent the mentally ill from buying guns, and only those who are also mentally incapable of navigating the black market.

No you mental midget. The gun show loophole still exists where felons, wife beaters and every other criminal can walk in to a police protected safe setting, get expert advice, discounts and walk out with any weapon they want. And internet sales still exist without a background check.

You are protecting felons, wife beaters and criminals. You are the lowest form of life on this planet. An adult with a paranoid child brain. A defect of human existence.

Isn't amazing that you right wing scum have NO problem with government MANDATES.

There is no such thing as a Gun Show Loophole.

That is a lie kept alive by gungrabbers and people who want to believe the lie.

I have a question, are you a person or a parrot?

This right off of Senator Pat Toomey's website:

The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act
Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey

TITLE TWO: REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR FIREARM SALES

Summary of Title II: This section of the bill requires background checks for sales at gun shows and online while securing certain aspects of 2nd Amendment rights for law abiding citizens.

• Closes the gun show and other loopholes while exempting temporary transfers and transfers between family members.

 

[earlycuyler]

No you mental midget. The gun show loophole still exists where felons, wife beaters and every other criminal can walk in to a police protected safe setting, get expert advice, discounts and walk out with any weapon they want. And internet sales still exist without a background check.

You are protecting felons, wife beaters and criminals. You are the lowest form of life on this planet. An adult with a paranoid child brain. A defect of human existence.

Isn't amazing that you right wing scum have NO problem with government MANDATES.

There is no such thing as a Gun Show Loophole.

That is a lie kept alive by gungrabbers and people who want to believe the lie.

I have a question, are you a person or a parrot?

This right off of Senator Pat Toomey's website:

The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act
Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey

TITLE TWO: REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR FIREARM SALES

Summary of Title II: This section of the bill requires background checks for sales at gun shows and online while securing certain aspects of 2nd Amendment rights for law abiding citizens.

• Closes the gun show and other loopholes while exempting temporary transfers and transfers between family members.

Clever editing. It does NOT consider sales in the parking lot of the gun show, only sales that happen indoors at the show. Dealers at gun shows already make you fill out a yellow paper, and you can not buy guns online with out an FFL to complete the sale for you which includes a background check.

 

[earlycuyler]

Congratulations you human piece of trash, you win. Take solace in the fact you stand with felons, wife beaters and every other criminal who can still buy a gun legally.

I hope you can now sleep at night scum bag.

Take solace that no criminal or felon will care about any law you pass. At best, background checks prevent the mentally ill from buying guns, and only those who are also mentally incapable of navigating the black market.

No you mental midget. The gun show loophole still exists where felons, wife beaters and every other criminal can walk in to a police protected safe setting, get expert advice, discounts and walk out with any weapon they want. And internet sales still exist without a background check.

You are protecting felons, wife beaters and criminals. You are the lowest form of life on this planet. An adult with a paranoid child brain. A defect of human existence.

Isn't amazing that you right wing scum have NO problem with government MANDATES.

All outright bald faced lies.

 

[Bfgrn]

Take solace that no criminal or felon will care about any law you pass. At best, background checks prevent the mentally ill from buying guns, and only those who are also mentally incapable of navigating the black market.

No you mental midget. The gun show loophole still exists where felons, wife beaters and every other criminal can walk in to a police protected safe setting, get expert advice, discounts and walk out with any weapon they want. And internet sales still exist without a background check.

You are protecting felons, wife beaters and criminals. You are the lowest form of life on this planet. An adult with a paranoid child brain. A defect of human existence.

Isn't amazing that you right wing scum have NO problem with government MANDATES.

All outright bald faced lies.

There are only two choices here; either you are dishonest or obtuse. Which one is it?

There IS a loophole in the gun show law that allows a seller to pose as little uncle Joe selling a gun or two, and circumvent doing background checks.

New York City sent investigators with hidden cameras to seven gun shows across Ohio, Tennessee and Nevada, and found out just how easy it is for criminals and the mentally ill to walk in and buy guns -- no questions asked.

Investigators told the private sellers that they "probably couldn't pass a background check" -- and at that point, the seller should have sent them away. Because even private sellers are prohibited by federal law from selling to those who they have reason to suspect could not pass a background check.

Instead, 19 out of 30 private sellers made the sale.

These so-called private sellers are supposed to be making only occasional sales. According to federal law, they cannot be "engaged in the business" of selling firearms. But that's exactly what investigators found. They found private sellers with large inventories doing a brisk business. In fact, one private seller acknowledged selling 348 guns in less than a year.

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FACT: Gun sellers who claim to be “occasional sellers” are not required by current federal law to conduct background checks on their customers. Furthermore, there is no clear definition of how many guns a person can sell as an “occasional seller” – it could be dozens, or even hundreds.

The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA) states: 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(21)(D), (22). Those not “engaged in the business” of dealing guns are exempt from the licensure requirement.

So, closing the gun show loophole would not punish any law abiding gun owner.

And, as citizens, we can't stop a criminal from buying an illegal firearm from the trunk of another criminal in some dark alley.

But, that's where the criminal should be forced to buy a gun. In a totally illegal setting, with all the inherent dangers that come with it. BUT, our current laws sanction criminals being able to walk into a gun show, receive expert advice, discounts, then buy whatever weapon(s) they desire without a background check or having to pay black market prices or risk the dangers of buying a weapon from another criminal in a dark alley.

Here is some info on the loophole...

What is the gun show loophole?

Federal law allows people who sell guns to avoid running background checks or keeping records by calling themselves occasional sellers, and these sellers often congregate at gun shows. The loophole provides criminals with easy access to firearms without having to worry about any background checks.

• Current law requires licensed gun dealers to conduct background checks, because that is the only way to determine whether a person is eligible to buy a gun. Licensed dealers must also keep records about the buyer so ATF can trace the gun if it is recovered at a crime scene.
  

• The law does not, however, require so-called occasional sellers to do these checks – and there’s no clear definition of what qualifies as an occasional seller.[ii]

• Many sellers at gun shows abuse that loophole by calling themselves occasional sellers. Because they concentrate at gun shows, it is easy for felons and other prohibited possessors to find someone who will sell to them without a background check.

...........*ATF concluded that “gun shows and flea markets are a major venue for illegal trafficking.”[iii]

• Gun shows linked to the Pentagon Shooting: In March 2010, John Bedell – who was prohibited by law from possessing guns – shot two Pentagon police officers with a gun purchased from a private seller at a Las Vegas gun show.

• Gun shows were tied to a broad range of violations, including straw purchases and the sale of kits to convert legal guns into illegal machine guns.

Solution: Require occasional sellers to run instant background checks.