Occupation 101

[georgephillip]

Let's test that "Princeton" attention span...

Try to focus:

55% of hereditary Palestine was given to a largely immigrant group consisting of 30% of the total population and owning less than 7% of the total land of "Palestine".

One person.
One vote.
Think real hard.

HINT: The Merneptah Stele and Arab invasion of "Palestine" in 636 AD are not relevant to the outcome of a 1948 AD election that was never allowed to happen.

Any wonderful Jews we can blame for that?

 

[Marc39]

Let's test that "Princeton" attention span...

Try to focus:

55% of hereditary Palestine was given to a largely immigrant group consisting of 30% of the total population and owning less than 7% of the total land of "Palestine".

Hereditary Palestine? LOL You're such a twit. No such term even exists, doofus.

Arabs have 30 countries on 8 million square miles.

Jews have just one country on 8 thousand square miles.

Arabs: 99.9% of the Middle East.

Jews: 0.1% of the land.

Arabs don't have enough?

Jews have too much?

We all know what Kookie Nazi George thinks.

 

[Marc39]

Let's test that "Princeton" attention span...

Try to focus:

55% of hereditary Palestine was given to a largely immigrant group consisting of 30% of the total population and owning less than 7% of the total land of "Palestine".

Kookie Nazi George, Jordan represents 80% of Mandate Palestine (Israel, just 20%) and 75% of Jordan's population is Palestinian, including Queen Rania.

When will you speak with King Abdullah about giving Pallies a vote to make Jordan a Pallie country?

 

[Marc39]

HINT: The Merneptah Stele and Arab invasion of "Palestine" in 636 AD are not relevant to the outcome of a 1948 AD election that was never allowed to happen.

Hint: The Merneptah Stele, which you didn't even know until I informed you, is relevant in substantiating Israel's existence at least 3200 years ago and that Jews, not Arabs, were the indigenous population.

Arabs are interlopers from Arabia.


Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

During the first period in Islamic history [622 AD] when Islam was an Arab religion and the Caliphate an Arab Kingdom, the term Arab came to be applied to those who spoke Arabic, were full members by descent of an Arab tribe, and who, either in person or through their ancestors, had originated in Arabia.

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[georgephillip]

In the same way Anglo Saxon interlopers from Europe colonized Manhattan.

Whatever occurred thousands of years ago doesn't change the fact that 1,220,000 Arabs would have outvoted 650,000 Jews in 1948 Palestine.

The Jewish State of Israel exists because elites in the US and England saw the potential profits from arm sales to a Jewish homeland in the heart of Arab oil.

 

[Marc39]

In the same way Anglo Saxon interlopers from Europe colonized Manhattan.

Open a book. You're severely uneducated.

The Muhammadan colonized the Jewish and Christian Middle East, north Africa and much of Europe and Asia

The Muhammadan colonized Buddhist Afghanistan.

Read, learn, uneducated one....
Muslim conquests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Arab excrement do not warrant one country, let alone 30.

Winston Churchill...

We owe to the Jews a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind, worth in fact the fruits of all wisdom and learning put together.

Some people like Jews and some do not, but no thoughtful `person' can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world

The coming into being of a Jewish state in Palestine is an event in world history to be viewed in the perspective, not of a generation or a century, but in the perspective of a thousand, two thousand or even three thousand years" "This is an event in world history

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Alexis de Toqueville...

Istudied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

Winston Churchill...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.


The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.


A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.


No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

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[georgephillip]

"For example, after opening the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) archives, a cable was discovered dated October 31, 1948, signed by Major General Carmel and addressed to all the division and district commanders under his command.

"In that cable he stated, “Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued.

"The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered.”

"A detailed analysis of such declassified material is provided by Nur Masalha in his book Expulsion of the Palestinians: The Concept of ‘Transfer’ in Zionist Political Thought, 1882-1948.

Yitzhak Rabin, the future Prime Minister and Noble Prize winner, wrote in his diary soon after Lydda’s and Ramla’s occupation:

"After attacking Lydda and then Ramla...What would they do with the 50,000 civilians living in the two cities...Not even Ben-Gurion could offer a solution...and during the discussion at operation headquarters, he [Ben-Gurion] remained silent, as was his habit in such situations.

"Clearly, we could not leave hostile and armed populace in our rear, where it could endanger the supply route [to the troops who were] advancing eastward...

"Ben-Gurion would repeat the question: 'What is to be done with the population?,' waving his hand in a gesture which said: 'Drive them out!.' "Driving out" is a term with a harsh ring...

"Psychologically, this was one of the most difficult actions we undertook."

Wonderful Jews Driving Out Arab Excrement?

Are you a "Princeton" racist?

Palestinian...

 

[Marc39]

In the same way Anglo Saxon interlopers from Europe colonized Manhattan.

Whatever occurred thousands of years ago doesn't change the fact that 1,220,000 Arabs would have outvoted 650,000 Jews in 1948 Palestine.

Your figures are bogus. Few people lived in Palestine.

Palestine was desolate and barren as a consequence of repeated invasions, from the Babylonians to the Persians to Alexander the Great to the Romans and Muslims to World War I.

The Black Plaque, malaria and bombed irrigation systems left the land depleted.

Mark Twain's observations of his trip to barren Palestine...

Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent. The Dead Sea and the Sea of Galilee sleep in the midst of a vast stretch of hill and plain wherein the eye rests upon no pleasant tint, no striking object, no soft picture dreaming in a purple haze or mottled with the shadows of the clouds. Every outline is harsh, every feature is distinct, there is no perspective--distance works no enchantment here. It is a hopeless, dreary, heart-broken land.

Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far-reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side. I would like much to see the fringes of the Jordan in spring-time, and Shechem, Esdraelon, Ajalon and the borders of Galilee--but even then these spots would seem mere toy gardens set at wide intervals in the waste of a limitless desolation.

Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists--over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead--about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Saviour's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the Saviour's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?

Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition--it is dream-land.

Innocents Abroad - Chapter LVI by Mark Twain

 

[georgephillip]

If Mark's right, Zionism has turned Palestine into a nightmare.

 

[Marc39]

If Mark's right, Zionism has turned Palestine into a nightmare.

Palestine doesn't exist, uneducated one.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formaly abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

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D'oh!

 

[georgephillip]

"Palestine doesn't exist"

"Palestine (Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; the Hebrew name Peleshet (פלשת Pəléshseth); also פלשׂתינה, Palestina; Arabic: فلسطين‎Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn) is a conventional name used, among others, to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, and various adjoining lands.[1]

"As a geographic term, Palestine can refer to 'ancient Palest6ine,' an area that today includes Israel and the [2] Palestinian territories, as well as part of Jordan, and some of both Lebanon and Syria."

Palestine - Wiki

 

[Marc39]

"Palestine doesn't exist"

"Palestine (Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; the Hebrew name Peleshet (פלשת Pəléshseth); also פלשׂתינה, Palestina; Arabic: فلسطين‎Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn) is a conventional name used, among others, to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, and various adjoining lands.[1]

"As a geographic term, Palestine can refer to 'ancient Palest6ine,' an area that today includes Israel and the [2] Palestinian territories, as well as part of Jordan, and some of both Lebanon and Syria."

Palestine - Wiki

Dictionaries, Wikipedia LOL This is why you're such a clown. You're so uneducated.

I prefer scholarly sources.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formaly abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

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[Trajan]

hey when do we start occupation 102? I need the credits....

 

[Marc39]

hey when do we start occupation 102? I need the credits....

Georgie is not occupied. It's difficult finding gainful employment as a high school dropout

 

[georgephillip]

I'm not paid or compensated in any way for my posts on USMB.

Are you?

Hasbara.

 

[Marc39]

I'm not paid or compensated in any way for my posts on USMB.

Are you?

Hasbara.

You're not paid for anything, flunky.

 

[georgephillip]

hey when do we start occupation 102? I need the credits....

I'm glad you asked...

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler.

"By 1940-41, the "Stern Gang," among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the "Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany."

Avraham Stern and his followers announced that The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

"1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

Ready for mid-terms?

51 Documents

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as "a land that flows with milk and honey; in the midst as it were of the habitable world, and under a temperate clime; adorned with beautiful mountains and luxurious valleys; the rocks producing excellent waters; and no part empty of delight or profit."(4)

A British missionary who lived in Beirut and visited Palestine in 1859 described the southern coastal area as "a very ocean of wheat," and the British Consul in Jerusalem, James Finn, reported that "the fields would do credit to British farming."(5)

The German geographer Alexander Scholch concluded that between 1856 and 1882 "Palestine produced a relatively large agricultural surplus which was marketed in neighboring countries, such as Egypt and Lebanon, and increasingly exported to Europe. These exports included wheat, barley, dura, maise, sesame, olive oil, soap, oranges, vegetables and cotton. Among the European importers of Palestinian produce were France, England, Turkey, Greece, Italy and Malta."(6)

Lawrence Oliphant, who visited Palestine in 1887, wrote that Palestine's Valley of Esdraelon was "a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive."(7) This Palestinian wheat had historically played an important part in international commerce. According to Paul Masson, a French economic historian, "wheat shipments from the Palestinian port of Acre had helped to save southern France from famine on numerous occasions in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries."(8)

Agricultural techniques in Palestine, especially in citriculture, were among the most advanced in the world long before the first Zionist settlers came to its shores. In 1856, the American consul in Jerusalem, Henry Gillman, "outlined reasons why orange growers in Florida would find it advantageous to adopt Palestinian techniques of grafting directly onto lemon trees."^ In 1893, the British Consul advised his government of the value of importing "young trees procured from Jaffa" to improve production in Australia and South Africa.(10)

All of this historical evidence from unimpeachable eyewitnesses destroys Israel's contention that it developed Palestine through its colonization. The legend that the Zionists have created, that they made "the desert bloom with roses," is totally without foundation. It is a ploy to gain donations from naive Jews throughout the world and to help extort economic aid from the American Congress. The economic achievements of Israel today are built totally on the capital base of lands, property and possessions usurped from the Palestinian Arabs.

Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

 

[Marc39]

In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as "a land that flows with milk and honey

The above was fabricated and, thus, is bogus.

Mark Twain...

Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent. The Dead Sea and the Sea of Galilee sleep in the midst of a vast stretch of hill and plain wherein the eye rests upon no pleasant tint, no striking object, no soft picture dreaming in a purple haze or mottled with the shadows of the clouds. Every outline is harsh, every feature is distinct, there is no perspective--distance works no enchantment here. It is a hopeless, dreary, heart-broken land.

Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far-reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side. I would like much to see the fringes of the Jordan in spring-time, and Shechem, Esdraelon, Ajalon and the borders of Galilee--but even then these spots would seem mere toy gardens set at wide intervals in the waste of a limitless desolation.

Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists--over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead--about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins
of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Saviour's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to
men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the Saviour's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?

Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition--it is dream-land.

Innocents Abroad - Chapter LVI by Mark Twain

 

[georgephillip]

As fabricated as your "education"?

Any thoughts Yitzhak's offer to ally with Hitler?