Occupation 101

[Marc39]

As fabricated as your "education"?

Any thoughts Yitzhak's offer to ally with Hitler?

Me: Highly educated
You: High school dropout.

Me: Reputational points.
You: Not one.

Heh heh

 

[georgephillip]

"Said Rhateb was born in 1972, five years after Israeli soldiers fought their way through East Jerusalem and claimed his family's dry, rock-strewn plot as part of what the Jewish state proclaimed its 'eternal and indivisible capital'.

"The bureaucrats followed in the army's footsteps, registering and measuring Israel's largest annexation of territory since its victory over the Arab armies in the 1948 war of independence.

"They cast an eye over the Rhateb family's village of Beit Hanina and its lands, a short drive from the biblical city on the hill, and decided the outer limits of this new Jerusalem.

"The Israelis drew a line on a map - a new city boundary - between Beit Hanina's lands and most of its homes.

"The olive groves and orchards were to be part of Jerusalem; the village was to remain in the West Bank.

"The population was not so neatly divided.

"Arabs in the area were registered as living in the village - even those, like Rhateb's parents, whose homes were inside what was now defined as Jerusalem.

"In time, the Israelis gave the Rhatebs identity cards that classified them as residents of the West Bank, under military occupation.

"When Said Rhateb was born, he too was listed as living outside the city's boundaries..."

Separating villagers from their land and issuing ID cards designating them as "residents of the West Bank under military occupation" seem like violations of GCIV.

Not that those who profit from occupation care much.

Worlds apart

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as "a land that flows with milk and honey

The above was fabricated and, thus, is bogus.

All documented.

The only reason you say it is bogus is because it does not match Israel's propaganda.

 

[Marc39]

In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as "a land that flows with milk and honey

The above was fabricated and, thus, is bogus.

All documented.

The only reason you say it is bogus is because it does not match Israel's propaganda.

It's bogus. Go back to sleep, idiot.

Mark Twain's account of the desolation of Palestine, OTOH, is not bogus.

Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are
unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent. The Dead Sea and the Sea of Galilee sleep in the midst of a vast stretch of hill and plain wherein the eye rests upon no pleasant tint, no striking object, no soft picture dreaming in a purple haze or mottled with the shadows of the clouds. Every outline is harsh, every feature is distinct, there is no perspective--distance works no enchantment here. It is a hopeless, dreary, heart-broken land.

Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far-reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side. I would like much to see the fringes of the Jordan in spring-time, and Shechem, Esdraelon, Ajalon and the borders of Galilee--but even then these spots would seem mere toy gardens set at wide intervals in the waste of a limitless desolation.

Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where
Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists--over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead--about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins
of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Saviour's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to
men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed
in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and
commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the Saviour's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?

Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition--it is dream-land.
http://www.mtwain.com/Innocents_Abroad/57.html

 

[docmauser1]

Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

Why do arabs always have to lie like a pornstar?

 

[Marc39]

.palestine-encyclopedia[/B].com/EPP/Chapter02_1of3.htm]Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

Why do arabs always have to lie like a pornstar?

How can there be a Palestine Encyclopedia if Palestine never existed for Arabs and Muslims?

Historian Bernard Lewis...

For Arabs, the term Palestine was unacceptable. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point.

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[P F Tinmore]

.palestine-encyclopedia[/B].com/EPP/Chapter02_1of3.htm]Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

Why do arabs always have to lie like a pornstar?

How can there be a Palestine Encyclopedia if Palestine never existed for Arabs and Muslims?

Historian Bernard Lewis...

For Arabs, the term Palestine was unacceptable. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1288808372&sr=8-4]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books: Reviews, Prices & more[/ame]

United States history starts before it was called the United states.

Do you have a point?

 

[Marc39]

Why do arabs always have to lie like a pornstar?

How can there be a Palestine Encyclopedia if Palestine never existed for Arabs and Muslims?

Historian Bernard Lewis...

For Arabs, the term Palestine was unacceptable. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1288808372&sr=8-4]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books: Reviews, Prices & more[/ame]

United States history starts before it was called the United states.

Do you have a point?

Before the Romans invented "Palaestina," 500 years before Arabs and Muslims arrived from Arabia, the correct historical geographic names of the land were Canaan and Judea, as in land of the Jews, where Jews, not Arabs or Muslims have lived for 4,000 years.

Thus, Jews are the original Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How can there be a Palestine Encyclopedia if Palestine never existed for Arabs and Muslims?

Historian Bernard Lewis...

Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books: Reviews, Prices & more

United States history starts before it was called the United states.

Do you have a point?

Before the Romans invented "Palaestina," 500 years before Arabs and Muslims arrived from Arabia, the correct historical geographic names of the land were Canaan and Judea, as in land of the Jews, where Jews, not Arabs or Muslims have lived for 4,000 years.

Thus, Jews are the original Palestinians.

When was it that the Jews were the only people living in Palestine?

 

[Marc39]

United States history starts before it was called the United states.

Do you have a point?

Before the Romans invented "Palaestina," 500 years before Arabs and Muslims arrived from Arabia, the correct historical geographic names of the land were Canaan and Judea, as in land of the Jews, where Jews, not Arabs or Muslims have lived for 4,000 years.

Thus, Jews are the original Palestinians.

When was it that the Jews were the only people living in Palestine?

You've asked this question several times and I have responded in kind. Are you retarded or merely plain stupid?

The ancient Hebrews lived among others, including Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites.

Only Jews have survived.

Arabs and Muslilms did not arrive in Judea until 2000 years after Jews arrived, when the former conquered the Byzantines in 636 AD. Jews have been living in Judea since at least 1300 BCE.

Try hard to remember, this time

 

[georgephillip]

Was bronze-age genocide the reason only Jews survived?

Think Moses might have been a war criminal?

 

[Marc39]

Was bronze-age genocide the reason only Jews survived?

Think Moses might have been a war criminal?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Before the Romans invented "Palaestina," 500 years before Arabs and Muslims arrived from Arabia, the correct historical geographic names of the land were Canaan and Judea, as in land of the Jews, where Jews, not Arabs or Muslims have lived for 4,000 years.

Thus, Jews are the original Palestinians.

When was it that the Jews were the only people living in Palestine?

You've asked this question several times and I have responded in kind. Are you retarded or merely plain stupid?

The ancient Hebrews lived among others, including Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites.

Only Jews have survived.

Arabs and Muslilms did not arrive in Judea until 2000 years after Jews arrived, when the former conquered the Byzantines in 636 AD. Jews have been living in Judea since at least 1300 BCE.

Try hard to remember, this time

If only the Jews survived, there must be a point in time when there were only Jews, That is what I asked.

 

[Marc39]

When was it that the Jews were the only people living in Palestine?

You've asked this question several times and I have responded in kind. Are you retarded or merely plain stupid?

The ancient Hebrews lived among others, including Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites.

Only Jews have survived.

Arabs and Muslilms did not arrive in Judea until 2000 years after Jews arrived, when the former conquered the Byzantines in 636 AD. Jews have been living in Judea since at least 1300 BCE.

Try hard to remember, this time

If only the Jews survived, there must be a point in time when there were only Jews, That is what I asked.

You're not the brightest bulb. Among the Canannites, Jebusites, Hittites and Amorites, only Jews survived as a distinct group.

You see any Canaanites, Jebusites, Hittites or Amorites in the Middle East, these days?

 

[P F Tinmore]

You've asked this question several times and I have responded in kind. Are you retarded or merely plain stupid?

The ancient Hebrews lived among others, including Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites.

Only Jews have survived.

Arabs and Muslilms did not arrive in Judea until 2000 years after Jews arrived, when the former conquered the Byzantines in 636 AD. Jews have been living in Judea since at least 1300 BCE.

Try hard to remember, this time

If only the Jews survived, there must be a point in time when there were only Jews, That is what I asked.

You're not the brightest bulb. Among the Canannites, Jebusites, Hittites and Amorites, only Jews survived as a distinct group.

You see any Canaanites, Jebusites, Hittites or Amorites in the Middle East, these days?

Did they all leave at once leaving the Jews the only people on the land?

 

[Marc39]

If only the Jews survived, there must be a point in time when there were only Jews, That is what I asked.

You're not the brightest bulb. Among the Canannites, Jebusites, Hittites and Amorites, only Jews survived as a distinct group.

You see any Canaanites, Jebusites, Hittites or Amorites in the Middle East, these days?

Did they all leave at once leaving the Jews the only people on the land?

Open a history book, uneducated one.

 

[georgephillip]

Mandate Palestine.
1948.
1,220,000 Arabs
650,000 Jews
One person: One vote?

No Jewish homeland in the heart of Arab oil.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You're not the brightest bulb. Among the Canannites, Jebusites, Hittites and Amorites, only Jews survived as a distinct group.

You see any Canaanites, Jebusites, Hittites or Amorites in the Middle East, these days?

Did they all leave at once leaving the Jews the only people on the land?

Open a history book, uneducated one.

I haven't found such a time. You should know off the top of your head, Mr. Scholar.

 

[Marc39]

Did they all leave at once leaving the Jews the only people on the land?

Open a history book, uneducated one.

I haven't found such a time. You should know off the top of your head, Mr. Scholar.

Open a book for once in your uneducated life.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Open a history book, uneducated one.

I haven't found such a time. You should know off the top of your head, Mr. Scholar.

Open a book for once in your uneducated life.

That's what I thought. You are just lying about it.

There was no such time when there were only Jews living there.