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Trump to the rescue?

“He Can’t Make Any Big Decisions”: As the Crisis Escalates, Trump Experiments With a Pivot

"So far, Trump has refrained from publicly lashing out at Fauci and New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose lucid and empathetic press conferences are in contrast to Trump’s shambolic media theater.

"But late Sunday night, as Dallas became the latest city to compel its citizens to stay home, Trump tweeted: 'WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!'"
he's exactly right. why do you disagree? If containment doesn't stop it, why have containment? Maybe containment makes it worse. things no one knows right? no one. if you think you have the market you're delusional as usual.
 

Yes, there are preliminary data that suggests it may wrap around in waves. Surely this would be shared with the public once the insider trading was done.
I'm here for the market crash
And indeed
The boys on wall st are drooling over corporations waiting to pull the trigger with thier fed res funny money

Fords 4 bucks

I start buying automaticlly shares at 3.75....I increase my buy as the price drops 10,20, 30, 50k shares blah blah blah ...dips

I'm gonna buy a shitload

Depends on how far it drops ...I'm hoping 2007 price
Lots of good buys out there do yer Homework

Ha ha ha, hang in there pard, see how long the casino lasts, keep on keepin' on. Market crash, societal crash, America wanted a reality show for a society.
so you're saying this doesn't affect you? hahahaahahahahahahahaha

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here is the percentage of deaths in the largest county in Illinois, 5.1 million in the last census in 2017. 9 deaths. that is a
0.00018% of that county populous. we're shut down for this. total deaths for the state? 10 deaths. only 1,285 cases across the state. folks, these numbers indicate a panic not necessary. one merely needs to look at the data. I finally got a link from my boss. there you go.

 
We are about to test our 50,000th positive. And we are becoming the planet's COVID Ground Zero.

Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Tot Deaths/
1M pop
China81,171+783,277+773,1594,7351,573562
Italy69,176+5,2496,820+7438,32654,0303,3931,144113
USA49,594+5,860622+6936148,6111,1751502
Spain39,676+4,5402,800+4893,79433,0822,35584960
Germany31,991+2,935149+2674931,093233822
Iran24,811+1,7621,934+1228,91313,96429523
France19,8568602,20016,7962,08230413
Switzerland9,117+322122+21318,8641411,05314
S. Korea9,037+76120+93,5075,410591762
UK8,077+1,427422+871357,520201196
Netherlands5,560+811276+6325,28243532416
Austria5,010+53628+794,973225563
Belgium4,269+526122+344613,68638136811
Norway2,768+14312+262,750445112
Portugal2,362+30233+10222,307482323
Sweden2,286+24036+9162,2341362264
Canada2,177+86241122,0411580.6
Australia2,144+2578+11182,01811840.3
Brazil1,980+563421,9441890.2

The Worldometer site has added a new column, "Deaths per 1M population". Not calculated down very far but we're on par with China, Germany and South Korea.

Cases per 1M population has reached 150. About a week and a half ago it was SIX.
 
We are about to test our 50,000th positive. And we are becoming the planet's COVID Ground Zero.

Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Tot Deaths/
1M pop
China81,171+783,277+773,1594,7351,573562
Italy69,176+5,2496,820+7438,32654,0303,3931,144113
USA49,594+5,860622+6936148,6111,1751502
Spain39,676+4,5402,800+4893,79433,0822,35584960
Germany31,991+2,935149+2674931,093233822
Iran24,811+1,7621,934+1228,91313,96429523
France19,8568602,20016,7962,08230413
Switzerland9,117+322122+21318,8641411,05314
S. Korea9,037+76120+93,5075,410591762
UK8,077+1,427422+871357,520201196
Netherlands5,560+811276+6325,28243532416
Austria5,010+53628+794,973225563
Belgium4,269+526122+344613,68638136811
Norway2,768+14312+262,750445112
Portugal2,362+30233+10222,307482323
Sweden2,286+24036+9162,2341362264
Canada2,177+86241122,0411580.6
Australia2,144+2578+11182,01811840.3
Brazil1,980+563421,9441890.2

The Worldometer site has added a new column, "Deaths per 1M population". Not calculated down very far but we're on par with China, Germany and South Korea.

Cases per 1M population has reached 150. About a week and a half ago it was SIX.
Ground zero is Wuhan China. fk I hate this stupid virus you keep trying to pass along.
 
CDC dropped the ball on the testing. The US should've gone with the WHO recommendation and the test kit developed by Germany.

Damnit.

The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

 
CDC dropped the ball on the testing. The US should've gone with the WHO recommendation and the test kit developed by Germany.

Damnit.

The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

son, you are so unpatriotic it's sad.
 
The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

Well, for a bun ch of unprepared amateurs, the USA is doing pretty damned good so far, except for the blue states, of course.

And thank you Flopper for staying rational (for a libster), even keeled and easy to converse with.

You, Care4All, Mac58, and OldLady are liberals that I hope my liberal daughter could emulate.
 
The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

son, you are so unpatriotic it's sad.
Not sure why a critique is necessarily unpatriotic if it is honest.
 
Trump to the rescue?

“He Can’t Make Any Big Decisions”: As the Crisis Escalates, Trump Experiments With a Pivot

"So far, Trump has refrained from publicly lashing out at Fauci and New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose lucid and empathetic press conferences are in contrast to Trump’s shambolic media theater.

"But late Sunday night, as Dallas became the latest city to compel its citizens to stay home, Trump tweeted: 'WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!'"
he's exactly right. why do you disagree? If containment doesn't stop it, why have containment? Maybe containment makes it worse. things no one knows right? no one. if you think you have the market you're delusional as usual.
That's like saying if the first battle does not destroy the enemy then we'll surrender. Long before we had vaccines, antivirals, and personal protection, we had separation, a simple but very effective method of of bringing epidemics under control. A virus spread through the air can not be transmitted without having another person close by to receive it. In China and South Korea, separating people has proven to be very effective with this virus and there is no reason why it will not be effective in the US.
 
The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

son, you are so unpatriotic it's sad.
Not sure why a critique is necessarily unpatriotic if it is honest.
what's honest? not one thing in his post was honest. dude. too fking funny

If you want to say that our hospitals and local governments weren't prepared, you are fking right on. This isn't a federal sickness, this is a human sickness. Being unprepared at the local level is not federal. sorry. no governor had orders in with manufacturers for the hospitals for respirators. One has to manufacture them to become available, and if there isn't inventory in warehouses, then they need to be made. They need orders to do that. that's on the local health departments run by local and state governments. stop with the trump bashing and shaming and fking get honest if you want to get honest. you are being dishonest.
 
Trump to the rescue?

“He Can’t Make Any Big Decisions”: As the Crisis Escalates, Trump Experiments With a Pivot

"So far, Trump has refrained from publicly lashing out at Fauci and New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose lucid and empathetic press conferences are in contrast to Trump’s shambolic media theater.

"But late Sunday night, as Dallas became the latest city to compel its citizens to stay home, Trump tweeted: 'WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!'"
he's exactly right. why do you disagree? If containment doesn't stop it, why have containment? Maybe containment makes it worse. things no one knows right? no one. if you think you have the market you're delusional as usual.
That's like saying if the first battle does not destroy the enemy then we'll surrender. Long before we had vaccines, antivirals, and personal protection, we had separation, a simple but very effective method of of bringing epidemics under control. A virus spread through the air can not be transmitted without having another person close by to receive it. In China and South Korea, separating people has proven to be very effective with this virus and there is no reason why it will not be effective in the US.
son, 320 million people and 600 deaths is not an epidemic.
 
Trump to the rescue?

“He Can’t Make Any Big Decisions”: As the Crisis Escalates, Trump Experiments With a Pivot

"So far, Trump has refrained from publicly lashing out at Fauci and New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose lucid and empathetic press conferences are in contrast to Trump’s shambolic media theater.

"But late Sunday night, as Dallas became the latest city to compel its citizens to stay home, Trump tweeted: 'WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!'"
he's exactly right. why do you disagree? If containment doesn't stop it, why have containment? Maybe containment makes it worse. things no one knows right? no one. if you think you have the market you're delusional as usual.
That's like saying if the first battle does not destroy the enemy then we'll surrender. Long before we had vaccines, antivirals, and personal protection, we had separation, a simple but very effective method of of bringing epidemics under control. A virus spread through the air can not be transmitted without having another person close by to receive it. In China and South Korea, separating people has proven to be very effective with this virus and there is no reason why it will not be effective in the US.
son, 320 million people and 600 deaths is not an epidemic.

give me the first thirty days of deaths with h1n1. got them? without them, you have no benchmark to cry epidemic.
 
The US has been dropping the ball on preparedness for years and the Trump administration has just followed suit. The 2019 report just like the ones the year before, and all the ones in prior years went unheeded. If you look back at a timeline of events following the Dec 31st announcement by China, you'll see that practically nothing was done in the US other than denying entrance to the US from China. For 2 months the government tried to plan for the inevitable, by creating committees, revising obsolete CDC rules, bringing on board advisers to monitor the situation. In South Korea days before the first case was found in the country, the government had ordered test kits, protective wear, alerted hospitals and put into affect a response to cases that were yet to be found. In effect, teams of investigators were ready to and testing unit teams sat waiting to go.

Meanwhile, in the US the CDC was struggling with the question of what should we do to prepare and the White House was struggling with the question of whether anything should be done at all. Not until March, did the federal government actually start doing much of anything. Infected countries were ban entrance to the US but by then people were bringing the virus into the country and homegrown cases were spreading.

The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.

Well, for a bun ch of unprepared amateurs, the USA is doing pretty damned good so far, except for the blue states, of course.

And thank you Flopper for staying rational (for a libster), even keeled and easy to converse with.

You, Care4All, Mac58, and OldLady are liberals that I hope my liberal daughter could emulate.
Cornavirus cases in the US are doubling faster than any other country. That is not pretty good. That is terrible.
A virus that is transmitted from person to person through the air, spreads fastest in large cities which have high population densities. The ten largest in the US typical vote democrat. Unless the virus has a political agenda, it is population density that is responsible for the large number cases rather than political preference.
 
Michigan now at 1800 known cases with 24 deaths. Mortality rate = 1.3%
no, the mortality rate is 24 deaths divided by the population size. and that ain't anywhere near 1.3% not even .00013%
Doesnt work that way.

 
Trump to the rescue?

“He Can’t Make Any Big Decisions”: As the Crisis Escalates, Trump Experiments With a Pivot

"So far, Trump has refrained from publicly lashing out at Fauci and New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose lucid and empathetic press conferences are in contrast to Trump’s shambolic media theater.

"But late Sunday night, as Dallas became the latest city to compel its citizens to stay home, Trump tweeted: 'WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!'"
he's exactly right. why do you disagree? If containment doesn't stop it, why have containment? Maybe containment makes it worse. things no one knows right? no one. if you think you have the market you're delusional as usual.
That's like saying if the first battle does not destroy the enemy then we'll surrender. Long before we had vaccines, antivirals, and personal protection, we had separation, a simple but very effective method of of bringing epidemics under control. A virus spread through the air can not be transmitted without having another person close by to receive it. In China and South Korea, separating people has proven to be very effective with this virus and there is no reason why it will not be effective in the US.
son, 320 million people and 600 deaths is not an epidemic.
The current number of cases in the US is 52,400 with 673 deaths. The number cases is increasing 25% to 40% per day, the fastest in the world. That is an epidemic.
 

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