OFFICIAL: Kavanaugh Hearings Thread

[Hiryuu]

Go ahead tell us how Ford got home? Fearing rape and death she ran out of the house, lacking a cell phone, car, or drivers license she...what hitched a ride? Obviously she was crying over the attack, lets hear from the witness who gave her a ride home and saw her torn clothes and emotional distress.

Got home from where and when?

 

[Vastator]

And now you understand why victims don't report. Wait, you were the dumbass who wondered why women don't report. Wow, you managed to be the asshole example that is the answer to your own stupid fucking question....nice work...

The only thing that fraud is a victim of is democrat shenanigans

A full day of hearings and still no proof. Waste of time

I've been playing catch up the last hour or so and I was astonished to find that not one allegation was supported in any way. The only one who really delved into the facts was Kavanaugh and he provided proof of his innocence.. Ford gave no witnesses and no corroborating evidence...

And Lindsey Graham was one of the few to call out the democrat bullshit and improper actions of the democrats...

Kavanaugh provided no proof, actually his demeanor was very disturbing.

Kavanaugh was pissed that you left tards famed him..I'd be damn mad too.. you guys like to make shit up..

And yet Ford, a woman relaying her experience of being attacked and subjec to attempted forcible rape.....was able to keep her composure.

She didn't melt down, she didn't start yelling. She was polite, credible, sincere.

Credible to whom?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Ford and her story would be ripped to shreds in a courtroom.

It would never have made it to a courtroom.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Weird how defending yourself from a group of partisan people makes one a partisan.

Of course, thats not what i meant....but we both know you cultists will twist anything you see and hear into self soothing affirmation of your own vile neuroses and superstitions...

Did you practice that in front of a mirror?

 

[BluesLegend]

Go ahead tell us how Ford got home? Fearing rape and death she ran out of the house, lacking a cell phone, car, or drivers license she...what hitched a ride? Obviously she was crying over the attack, lets hear from the witness who gave her a ride home and saw her torn clothes and emotional distress.

Got home from where and when?

We can ask whoever gave her a ride home that question also.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

We are find and will be. Trump snowflakes and the working class and needy should be concerned they will be the losers. Read below. Kavanaugh voted to repeal the ACA.

"The last thing Christina remembered was letting two men buy her a drink at a Fort Lauderdale bar. Then she woke up hours later on a roadside, with injuries to her genitals suggesting that she was raped. Though she had no memory of how she left the bar or wound up cut and bruised on the side of a road, it was soon obvious that she'd been drugged.' Months later, Christina learned that her rape was a preexisting condition.

After she woke up with signs of a sexual assault, Christina's doctor prescribed her a month's worth of anti-AIDS medication as a precaution in case her assailants were HIV positive. Several months after she took these drugs, when she lost her health insurance and needed to find a new plan, she discovered that no insurance company would cover her. Though Christina never developed an HIV infection, insurers saw that she'd once taken anti-AIDS drugs-and that marked her as someone who might have an expensive medical condition the insurance companies did not want to pay for.

Christina's experience was not particularly unusual. Before the Affordable Care Act banned the practice, numerous insurers denied care to women infected with a sexually transmitted disease by their [p255] rapist or to rape survivors with post-traumatic stress disorder.' Eight states permitted insurers to deny coverage to a woman because she'd experienced domestic violence."

And these coverage denials were hardly limited to victims of violence. Before Obamacare, insurance companies refused to cover Americans for conditions as severe as cancer or as routine as hay fever. Women who became pregnant could immediately lose their ability to obtain insurance, as could college athletes in excellent physical condition who experienced an injury." Moreover, for the millions of Americans unable to obtain insurance prior to the Affordable Care Act, every trip to the doctor was a flirtation with bankruptcy. According to a 2007 study, nearly two-thirds of all bankruptcies in the United States had a "medical cause."

Worse, in the world before Obamacare, many Americans simply watched their bodies fall into ruin because they were unable to afford care. George, a teenaged diabetic in Buffalo, had a factory job that offered him no insurance and too little money to pay for the insulin, syringes, and testing materials he needed to manage his condition. Unable to control his blood sugar levels, he went blind at age twenty. One year later he died of multiple organ failure."

George's sister Tina worked a waitressing job that also left her uninsured. At twenty-four she had a baby, only to watch that child die five months later due to complications from gestational diabetes. A year later, Tina had a fatal heart attack.

If George and Tina had been insured, their fates almost certainly would have been different. "I had to face their mother at the funerals knowing if they had gotten good care for diabetes, we could have prevented all their end organ disease," their doctor later explained to a reporter. "George would not have gone blind. The baby would have lived. Neither would have had heart or kidney problems."

In Kansas City, a well-regarded gynecologist and Vietnam veteran named Joseph started experiencing involuntary twitches. Eventually, they became so bad that he lost his medical practice-and with it his house, his car, and his health insurance. For eleven years, he was unable to afford the $200 blood test that would have diagnosed his [p 257] condition as Huntington's disease, He frequency skipped meals in order to pay for medication. Joseph's story ended less tragically than George's or Tina's-he eventually found a clinic willing to diagnose his condition and provide him with care-but he watched his life slip into ruin for more than a decade before that happened."

In rural Idaho, a twenty-eight-year-old mother developed a rare bacterial infection in her heart. Because her convenience store job did not provide her with insurance, she delayed care long enough that a mass formed in her heart, entered an artery, and traveled to her brain, killing her. In a particularly cruel twist, the convenience store promoted her to assistant manager shortly before her death-a promotion that came with health insurance. She left behind two small children."

Beth lost her health insurance after her husband crushed his right leg in a motorcycle accident, causing him to lose his job. A diabetic with a heart condition, Beth stopped seeing her specialist, stopped taking one of her insulin drugs, and started rationing her heart medication in order to save money to pay for her husband's care. Before she found care at a free clinic, Beth's health deteriorated to the point that she was unable to get out of bed."

In Jamestown, New York, a small town a little more than an hour south of Buffalo, an unemployed carpenter arrived at the hospital with bloody urine and sky-high blood sugar due to his untreated diabetes. When the hospital diagnosed him with cancer, he refused surgery because he had no way to pay for it-though he changed his mind six months later after the cancer grew worse.

In the final months of his life, he lost his ability to work after he accidentally cut off his own thumb. He faced regular calls from a collection agency seeking payment for the cancer surgery. His toes had to be amputated due to his unchecked diabetes. His vision grew worse and one of his kidneys failed. After he developed cancer in his bladder, he lost that organ as well. Though he eventually qualified for Medicaid, that was after his family discovered him lying on the floor from a stroke brought on by his diabetes. He died in a nursing home, sharing a room with four other men." [p258]

A sixty-four-year-old Idaho woman developed a prolapsed uterus, a weakening in the pelvic muscles that held her womb in place. Although her uterus was literally hanging outside her vagina, the woman delayed surgery for a year so that this expensive procedure would be covered by Medicare. A young boy developed a tooth infection that spread to his heart, eventually causing permanent damage, because his mother did not make enough money as a janitor to pay for his care."

A Chicago electrician blinded by his diabetes had no way to pay for his medications, so he was forced to go back to work despite the fact that he could not see the electric wires he worked with-he'd feel his way along them to figure out what he was doing."

Doctors often based treatment decisions for their uninsured patients on which drug company had recently provided them with free samples of their product. "You change medication every time a patient comes in and switch them to whatever free samples you happen to have that day," according to a physician in an inner-city health clinic. Another doctor relied on free samples to treat a schizophrenic woman with thoughts of suicide. The woman's husband was on ten different medications, and would beg for samples of each one."

[see Above] This is what health care looked like in the United States of America-the richest nation the world has ever known-before President Barack Obama signed the Affordable Care Act. Hard-working Americans died because their jobs did not provide them with health benefits. Mothers prayed helplessly over sick children who were unable to receive the most basic care. Senior citizens counted the days until they qualified for Medicare and could finally receive treatment for long-neglected conditions. Rape survivors were treated like pariahs by the insurance industry.

According to one study published by six Harvard physicians, nearly 45,000 American adults died in 2005 because they lacked health insurance. That's more than one death every twelve minutes.'?

And yet, just seven minutes after Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in March of 2010, a group of thirteen state attorneys general filed a lawsuit asking the courts to return America to the days when patients had to beg their doctors for free samples of lifesaving drugs."

Page numbers are included in text above.

'Injustices: The Supreme Court's History of Comforting the Comfortable and Afflicting the Afflicted' Ian Millhiser

Kavanaugh would further hurt the working class and women should he be confirmed. And if you are whining about the so called 'tax' that too is demonstrated to within the laws put forth in the constitution, check the book if you doubt, maybe you'll learn something.

"THE LEGAL CASE against Obamacare was more than simply an indictment of the Supreme Court. It offered a direct window into how easily partisans can be convinced that something is unconstitutional simply because they want it to be. "

If you don’t support obiecare you’re a rapist!

Fucking idiot.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

This guy is kind of a wuss, maybe the conservatives should boot it out of committee since he can't even keep from choking up and keep it together long enough to testify with out breaking out in tears. . . .

Hell, they might as well nominate a woman. She could probably hold it together better than he can. This guy is no good under pressure, no grit at all. It's clear he is too emotional, too liberal.

Men are allowed to cry, but this is not normal; I think he's on too much Valium, actually.

With all due respect, Old...I think Ford looked like she was dazed and confused a lot more than Brett Kavanaugh does right now. He looks like someone who is so pissed off they can barely speak.

Do you blame him?

I'm just trying to imagine how emotional and how a Scalia or Renquist would react in the same situation.

What if folks were making up lies out of whole cloth about Scalia or Renquist to derail their entire nomination? Would they carry on like a little girl in front of congress?

Is this even dignified?

Better him than me, for them. They'd have thought Larry Talbot had arrived.

 

[itfitzme]

Ford and her story would be ripped to shreds in a courtroom.

Not as much as Kavanaugh.

What guy in a courtroom tells the prosecutor well do you drink do you drink have you ever been drunk huh huh tell me.

Go ahead tell us how Ford got home? Fearing rape and death she ran out of the house, lacking a cell phone, car, or drivers license she...what hitched a ride? Obviously she was crying over the attack, lets hear from the witness who gave her a ride home and saw her torn clothes and emotional distress.

Don't know. Could have walked to a friend house. Could have walked home. Could have gone to the local McDonalds and cried before she went home. Why, do you have some information that is actual real?

 

[Yousaidwhat]

What was the single biggest question that came out of today’s Senate hearing?


Why won’t Republicans let the FBI investigate Brett Kavanaugh?

When has the Government ever needed permission to investigate anyone?

 

[karpenter]

She was polite, credible, sincere.

She Sounded Like A Fuddled Ditz
Defending Therapist Planted False Memories

 

[task0778]

Is this the US or Iran? The burden of proof is on the accuser. Regardless of party.

This is not a court of law....how many times does it need to be said? It's a job interview.

People try to trivialize this whole thing like it's no big deal and the accused is not entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence cuz it's not in a court of law. Usually, the people who say this are about ready to screw over somebody that they don't like; well, I tell you what, it may not be in a court of law, but what we saw today was was sure as hell a trial, with serious consequences if the accused is unconfirmed. IOW, guilty.

Serious question for everyone who sees this: do you believe a nominee who is accused of this kind of crime or any other should be considered guilty even if the accuser has no supporting evidence and no corroborating witnesses and doesn't know where or when it happened? Shouldn't the accused be told the details, doesn't he/she deserve the chance to prove they didn't do it cuz they was somewhere else at the time? Does it matter if it's in a court of law or not, when you're going to smear somebody's reputation and pretty much destroy their career? Oh well, it's just a job interview so it doesn't matter. Bullshit, it matters to him and his family and friends.

How many job interviews do you know of where this kind of smear to your reputation takes place? How many job interviews include death threats to you and your family? How many job interviews result in the end of somebody's career? How many job interviews do you know where people accuse you of drugging girls and gang-raping them? 36 effing years ago? This was way more than a job interview and everyone should appreciate that.

 

[saveliberty]

Weird how defending yourself from a group of partisan people makes one a partisan.

Of course, thats not what i meant....but we both know you cultists will twist anything you see and hear into self soothing affirmation of your own vile neuroses and superstitions...

Seems like you'd be use to me showing the world how foolish you are. Feel free to back peddle your way out of it.

 

[Vastator]

I laughed out loud when she said the reasons they went to therapy was because she wanted two doors and hubby only wanted one.

What a mental case.

I like when she said that her alleged Kavanaugh incident contributed to her PTSD. Then when asked where the rest of it came from... She publicly shit herself. Priceless!

 

[saveliberty]

Don't know. Could have walked to a friend house. Could have walked home. Could have gone to the local McDonalds and cried before she went home. Why, do you have some information that is actual real?

So name the friend. Fourteen miles to home, you sound real credible there. You're grasping for straws.

 

[Hiryuu]

We can ask whoever gave her a ride home that question also.

That's my point ... The "who" doesn't exist if the "where" and "when" never existed to start with.
The problems Republicans and their pundits keep running into, have more to do with the fact they are discarding the obvious, in order to make a point about the irrelevant. There is nothing that supports the idea she was ever at a party, other than her saying so, and if you think she is lying, you are only asking her to lie again. Just more of the circus, trying to outsmart stupid with more stupid.

No offense, everyone is guilty of it to some degree from time to time, because that's what happens in partisan politics.

 

[itfitzme]

Really, a cartoon is your intelligent contribution?

 

[caddo kid]

the two WORST performances of the day are awarded to

1. Lindsey Graham = what an out of control complete ass hat
2. Kavanaugh = that over the top, subjective performance demonstrated that Kavanaugh is not fit for 'dog catcher' court judge, let alone a SCOTUS justice

these two should get a room together & then start a drama class for senior white males

 

[The Purge]

 

[Billy_Bob]

Ford and her story would be ripped to shreds in a courtroom.

Not as much as Kavanaugh.

What guy in a courtroom tells the prosecutor well do you drink do you drink have you ever been drunk huh huh tell me.

You guys and being fucking morons.. Kavanaugh has contemporaneous notes and witnesses to prove where he was in 1982... Ford hasn't got shit.. I am laughing at your fucked in head ignorance..

 

[itfitzme]

Don't know. Could have walked to a friend house. Could have walked home. Could have gone to the local McDonalds and cried before she went home. Why, do you have some information that is actual real?

So name the friend. Fourteen miles to home, you sound real credible there. You're grasping for straws.

I'm not the one claiming the is obviously a "witness who gave her a ride home and saw her torn clothes and emotional distress."

I'm just asking what actual evidence you have to support your speculation.