OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

[OKTexas]

Payroll tax breaks from Obama?! LOL...dumbass.

What is your question?

Great, move your fat ass there.


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God you ignorant right-wingers are stupid assholes. I'm not going anywhere and if I find out where you are going to come down there and give you a new face. What the f*** is wrong with you people? Since you're such a dumbass, I'll tell you you can't move to another country unless you don't need to work and have a lot of money. See, what smart people would like is to have a fair country instead of giving it all away to the rich you stupid a******LOL merry Christmas.

Promises, promises.

Actually there are countries where you can move to where a job / lots of money is not required. There's even a couple that would pay you to move to their country.

Anytime you people try a fact, you find out that you have no idea what the f*** you are talking about.

Payroll tax breaks from Obama?! LOL...dumbass.

What is your question?

Great, move your fat ass there.


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God you ignorant right-wingers are stupid assholes. I'm not going anywhere and if I find out where you are going to come down there and give you a new face. What the f*** is wrong with you people? Since you're such a dumbass, I'll tell you you can't move to another country unless you don't need to work and have a lot of money. See, what smart people would like is to have a fair country instead of giving it all away to the rich you stupid a******LOL merry Christmas.

Fair is what you can EARN, nothing more, nothing less. If people want more they can get off their asses and EARN it. No one is stopping them from do it.


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You're right LOL the problem is not GOP tax rates and policies the middle class is disappearing because people just got lazy. Right-wing idiocy knows no bounds.

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


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Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


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[francoHFW]

What is your question?
God you ignorant right-wingers are stupid assholes. I'm not going anywhere and if I find out where you are going to come down there and give you a new face. What the f*** is wrong with you people? Since you're such a dumbass, I'll tell you you can't move to another country unless you don't need to work and have a lot of money. See, what smart people would like is to have a fair country instead of giving it all away to the rich you stupid a******LOL merry Christmas.

Promises, promises.

Actually there are countries where you can move to where a job / lots of money is not required. There's even a couple that would pay you to move to their country.

Anytime you people try a fact, you find out that you have no idea what the f*** you are talking about.

What is your question?
God you ignorant right-wingers are stupid assholes. I'm not going anywhere and if I find out where you are going to come down there and give you a new face. What the f*** is wrong with you people? Since you're such a dumbass, I'll tell you you can't move to another country unless you don't need to work and have a lot of money. See, what smart people would like is to have a fair country instead of giving it all away to the rich you stupid a******LOL merry Christmas.

Fair is what you can EARN, nothing more, nothing less. If people want more they can get off their asses and EARN it. No one is stopping them from do it.


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You're right LOL the problem is not GOP tax rates and policies the middle class is disappearing because people just got lazy. Right-wing idiocy knows no bounds.

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


.

Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


.

That's a fact. 3 to 6 million technical jobs are going begging at the moment and we can't spare any money to train anybody it is stupid it is Republican

 

[francoHFW]

Promises, promises.

Actually there are countries where you can move to where a job / lots of money is not required. There's even a couple that would pay you to move to their country.

Anytime you people try a fact, you find out that you have no idea what the f*** you are talking about.

Fair is what you can EARN, nothing more, nothing less. If people want more they can get off their asses and EARN it. No one is stopping them from do it.


.

You're right LOL the problem is not GOP tax rates and policies the middle class is disappearing because people just got lazy. Right-wing idiocy knows no bounds.

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


.

Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


.

That's a fact. 3 to 6 million technical jobs are going begging at the moment and we can't spare any money to train anybody it is stupid it is Republican

You don't know that important fact but you know everything about Hillary Clinton's evil scandals and other crap that has got nowhere near a courtroom.

 

[OKTexas]

Oh, you mean like George Soros, Bill Gates, the late Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett?

So how are these people buying less political influence than those that contribute to the Republican party?

Oh, you mean like the NRA?

Who benefits more from government, a rich person or a poor person? Why should a person who benefits the least from government have to pay more than the person who benefits the most?

I don't even understand the question, however multinational companies pay corporate taxes on money they made from their US operations. If they make money elsewhere, why should they pay taxes there and here?

You mean a rich person's companies don't use the roads airports and ports, the police and the Army don't protect their assets? Another total dupe...

So what, they do the same for you.


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When the richest end up with all the New Wealth for 30 years and the country and the middle class are falling apart, the rich are not paying enough. All the GOP has is hate and b******* and phony scandals and with you bigoted fools that's enough....

What does that have to do with you getting the same protections? Also the hate you exude is palpable.


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I hate the lies you believe not you. Merry merry Christmas. But you vote for a party that makes life more difficult for yourself and your family and friends... Because you are Hoodwinked.

My family and friends are doing just fine despite you commiecrats, not because of you. I don't want your god like government penalizing me because of the choices I made in my life. No children, I pay more taxes, no mortgage, I pay more taxes, no State income tax, I pay more taxes. With the new tax bill I will no longer pay, how is that against my interest?


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[frigidweirdo]

Yes, I mean like people like Soros especially.

Ray, I don't live in your partisan fantasy world. I didn't say whatever the fuck it is you think I'm saying. Stop reading into what I didn't say.

Yes, I mean like the NRA.

I'd say the wealthy benefit a lot more than the poor from government.

No, you clearly don't understand that question. Anything that doesn't fit your agenda and suddenly you don't understand. Maybe that is the problem Ray, you just don't get a lot of things that are quite simple, because your head is so far up the partisan's ass, that you can't see simple things. Maybe if you opened your eyes, you'd see.

I've asked you similar questions in the past, and you always manage to ignore them.

I've answered your questions honestly and the way I really feel. YOU are the one that can't accept that people on the right believe in what they preach. As far as you're concerned, if you're not a moderate, you have your head up other people's asses.

How do the wealthy benefit more from government than the poor? Do wealthy people need social programs? Do wealthy people need to be fed or housed by the government? Do wealthy people need police or other law enforcement to protect them? Do wealthy people need government for their retirement or healthcare when they get older?

Yes, I know. I'm not criticizing you for answering the questions as you feel. I'm criticizing you because the way you "feel" is the way you're told to feel. I would prefer you open your eyes, look at the facts, see things for what they are, then the way you feel might actually make sense.

No, you're right. I can't accept what people on the right say.

I can't accept that you say "choice is freedom" and then you reject choice. It doesn't make sense to me, but somehow it makes sense to you.

When did I ever reject choice?

Years ago when I started to get interested in politics, I was at my sisters house for a family doing when I got into a heated political discussion with my father. As my then brother-in-law was bringing dinner to the table, he laughed and said to me "You must be a huge Rush Limbaugh fan." Rush Limbaugh? WTF is that I thought to myself.

Anyway, several months went by and something happened in politics that really pissed me off; I can't remember now what it was. But thinking of my brother-in-laws comment, I found this Rush Limbaugh guy and listen to his show.

I was amazed. It was like I was hearing a guy reading my mind and broadcasting it over the air. Everything he said is what I have felt for years, and I've been a listener ever since.

Point is, we on the right are not brainwashed by anybody. Our beliefs are genuine and nobody tells us how to think; we've always though this way.

You reject choice when you decide that FPTP is the system of your choice.

I have no idea what FPTP even is. Try English next time.

Fucking hell Ray, it is English. If you don't know what it is, then I have no idea what you do when I reply to you.

This is how bad you are at deflecting Ray

I don't know what a PR is or what it does, nor an FPTP,

This post is from September 8th THIS YEAR for Christ's sake.

PR is Proportional Representation. This is one person one vote with each vote being worth the same. FPTP is First Past The Post, it's what the US has. Whoever gets the most votes wins the seat. It happens in most elections. In the Presidential election some states will distribute their electoral college votes based on who votes what, but most stick with FPTP.

My reply from the same day. You can't remember shit, or you're just deflecting because you know what you spout is complete and utter shit.

You really do take the fucking biscuit Ray.

 

[OKTexas]

Promises, promises.

Actually there are countries where you can move to where a job / lots of money is not required. There's even a couple that would pay you to move to their country.

Anytime you people try a fact, you find out that you have no idea what the f*** you are talking about.

Fair is what you can EARN, nothing more, nothing less. If people want more they can get off their asses and EARN it. No one is stopping them from do it.


.

You're right LOL the problem is not GOP tax rates and policies the middle class is disappearing because people just got lazy. Right-wing idiocy knows no bounds.

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


.

Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


.

That's a fact. 3 to 6 million technical jobs are going begging at the moment and we can't spare any money to train anybody it is stupid it is Republican

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


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[OKTexas]

Anytime you people try a fact, you find out that you have no idea what the f*** you are talking about.
You're right LOL the problem is not GOP tax rates and policies the middle class is disappearing because people just got lazy. Right-wing idiocy knows no bounds.

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


.

Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


.

That's a fact. 3 to 6 million technical jobs are going begging at the moment and we can't spare any money to train anybody it is stupid it is Republican

You don't know that important fact but you know everything about Hillary Clinton's evil scandals and other crap that has got nowhere near a courtroom.

Deflecting again?

Why do you keep bringing up the bitch?


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[Clementine]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government fuck the little guy at every turn...

The left prefers to screw middle class and give huge refunds to illegal aliens and others who don't pay taxes. Over 30% who pay nothing end up getting big checks every year. Makes no sense to get money back when you don't pay anything. It's simple redistribution, which is what socialist are all about.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I would call that a pretty accurate statement. Liberals believe in taking money from those that earn it and giving it to those that don't, or are you going to argue that point too?

Yes, I know you would. But then Ray, I've seen a lot of your posts and seen the utter blatant blinkered partisanship from you, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

"A liberal", what is a liberal Ray? You couldn't define "a liberal" if you tried and be accurate because there is nothing that defines a liberal.

A liberal is a leftist. A liberal is a person of wealth envy. A liberal is a believer in Cradle-to-Grave government where personal responsibility is at the bare minimum and government makes all their decisions for them and everybody else. A liberal is a Socialist lite. A liberal is one who believes we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only a finite amount of money, therefore, the reason some have too little is because others have too much.

A liberal is one who sides with evil over good at every turn. A liberal is one that desires for our country to look like a giant freak show where guys hold hand with guys in public, guys wearing dresses use female bathroom and shower facilities, and animals having more rights than humans.

Yes I am a partisan. I am anti-liberal. I am pro-conservative and yell it from the highest mountain tops with pride.

And a Duke believes all that crap they get from a propaganda machine paid for exclusively bye greedy idiot GOP billionaires and their dupes. YouTube's are always telling us we're sucking Obama's dick or other obscenities and believe that liberals just care about their welfare checks. You are absolutely a disgrace. Poor America. Breaking... GOP and Democratic whites are exactly the same economically. Minorities know where the racists and obscene ignoramuses are, in the GOP.

The Democrat party (like the Republican party) have their support groups. The two biggest support groups of the Democrats are government dependents and victims. Democrats love victims and victims love Democrats.

So the goal of the Democrat party is to expand both groups and they've done so successfully. When DumBama was President, he created over 40 million more new government dependents between Commie Care and food stamps alone. It was no accident.

If we were to rid ourselves of government dependents and victims, there would be no Democrat party left. They would only be heard of in history books. So don't tell me Democrat voters are only worried about their welfare check--because they are.

The people on welfare and assistance are what is known as the unfortunates. God will not be amused with you.

And he will be amused with you supporting the party of baby killers and irresponsibility?

 

[Clementine]

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


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The left thinks government should control everything. They have been preaching, especially in the last 8 years, that people are not responsible for their own lives. It's white people's fault that they drop out of school and make poor decisions. It's the cops fault that they commit crimes. It's rich people's fault that they are poor. It's society's fault that they do stupid shit. It's the school's fault that they remain uneducated since they teach things only white people can understand. Apparently, the left doesn't want to try to actually educate anyone and decided that all students should remain ignorant of history and every other subject.

Has nothing to do with teachers trying to deal with multiple languages in the classroom. Nothing to do with too many generations on welfare and uneducated. Nothing to do with the gang mindset that lacks total respect for society. Nothing to do with the left constantly indoctrinating people by convincing them they are victims of this or that. It's all about coddling people and encouraging them to blame others for all their woes.

The left says we should pay for abortions or we will have to pay to raise the child. They say we have to house, cloth, feed, educate and take care of people since they can't do anything on their own. The left constantly reminds us that blacks are not as smart or capable as whites. They say math is a white thing. Cursive writing is too hard so they eliminated that. Getting an ID is supposedly too difficult for minorities.

The left sees their constituents as helpless sheep who cannot be expected to do anything for themselves. Of course, decades of liberal interference in people's lives has not done a damn thing to elevate anyone. It's merely dumbed people down and made them permanently dependent.

Even if we pay for training for many, it won't work. You can lead a horse to water.....................

The left seems to prefer dependence. They are downright cruel to minorities who are independent and disagree with them.
Now they will bitch about the tax cuts because it allows people to elevate themselves. More jobs get created, More people able to move up the ladder.

Middle class has been totally screwed by the left. They pretend they care but always screw the middle class because we pay for their wealth redistribution to their favorite groups. Their dependents get refunds because we are paying more than we should. The Dems are pretty damn generous with our money but do everything possible to keep their own.

 

[francoHFW]

You mean a rich person's companies don't use the roads airports and ports, the police and the Army don't protect their assets? Another total dupe...

So what, they do the same for you.


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When the richest end up with all the New Wealth for 30 years and the country and the middle class are falling apart, the rich are not paying enough. All the GOP has is hate and b******* and phony scandals and with you bigoted fools that's enough....

What does that have to do with you getting the same protections? Also the hate you exude is palpable.


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I hate the lies you believe not you. Merry merry Christmas. But you vote for a party that makes life more difficult for yourself and your family and friends... Because you are Hoodwinked.

My family and friends are doing just fine despite you commiecrats, not because of you. I don't want your god like government penalizing me because of the choices I made in my life. No children, I pay more taxes, no mortgage, I pay more taxes, no State income tax, I pay more taxes. With the new tax bill I will no longer pay, how is that against my interest?


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You are mistaken. Americans are now 21st in median income level, 4th or 3rd in income per capita. Guess what our median is doing terribly in the world . all in the last 30 years... great job GOP and dupes.

 

[francoHFW]

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


.

The left thinks government should control everything. They have been preaching, especially in the last 8 years, that people are not responsible for their own lives. It's white people's fault that they drop out of school and make poor decisions. It's the cops fault that they commit crimes. It's rich people's fault that they are poor. It's society's fault that they do stupid shit. It's the school's fault that they remain uneducated since they teach things only white people can understand. Apparently, the left doesn't want to try to actually educate anyone and decided that all students should remain ignorant of history and every other subject.

Has nothing to do with teachers trying to deal with multiple languages in the classroom. Nothing to do with too many generations on welfare and uneducated. Nothing to do with the gang mindset that lacks total respect for society. Nothing to do with the left constantly indoctrinating people by convincing them they are victims of this or that. It's all about coddling people and encouraging them to blame others for all their woes.

The left says we should pay for abortions or we will have to pay to raise the child. They say we have to house, cloth, feed, educate and take care of people since they can't do anything on their own. The left constantly reminds us that blacks are not as smart or capable as whites. They say math is a white thing. Cursive writing is too hard so they eliminated that. Getting an ID is supposedly too difficult for minorities.

The left sees their constituents as helpless sheep who cannot be expected to do anything for themselves. Of course, decades of liberal interference in people's lives has not done a damn thing to elevate anyone. It's merely dumbed people down and made them permanently dependent.

Even if we pay for training for many, it won't work. You can lead a horse to water.....................

The left seems to prefer dependence. They are downright cruel to minorities who are independent and disagree with them.
Now they will bitch about the tax cuts because it allows people to elevate themselves. More jobs get created, More people able to move up the ladder.

Middle class has been totally screwed by the left. They pretend they care but always screw the middle class because we pay for their wealth redistribution to their favorite groups. Their dependents get refunds because we are paying more than we should. The Dems are pretty damn generous with our money but do everything possible to keep their own.

Thanks for the depression and ruining millions of lives, GOP. Government used to help people get an education or training for jobs not anymore. Must save the rich...

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


.

The left thinks government should control everything. They have been preaching, especially in the last 8 years, that people are not responsible for their own lives. It's white people's fault that they drop out of school and make poor decisions. It's the cops fault that they commit crimes. It's rich people's fault that they are poor. It's society's fault that they do stupid shit. It's the school's fault that they remain uneducated since they teach things only white people can understand. Apparently, the left doesn't want to try to actually educate anyone and decided that all students should remain ignorant of history and every other subject.

Has nothing to do with teachers trying to deal with multiple languages in the classroom. Nothing to do with too many generations on welfare and uneducated. Nothing to do with the gang mindset that lacks total respect for society. Nothing to do with the left constantly indoctrinating people by convincing them they are victims of this or that. It's all about coddling people and encouraging them to blame others for all their woes.

The left says we should pay for abortions or we will have to pay to raise the child. They say we have to house, cloth, feed, educate and take care of people since they can't do anything on their own. The left constantly reminds us that blacks are not as smart or capable as whites. They say math is a white thing. Cursive writing is too hard so they eliminated that. Getting an ID is supposedly too difficult for minorities.

The left sees their constituents as helpless sheep who cannot be expected to do anything for themselves. Of course, decades of liberal interference in people's lives has not done a damn thing to elevate anyone. It's merely dumbed people down and made them permanently dependent.

Even if we pay for training for many, it won't work. You can lead a horse to water.....................

The left seems to prefer dependence. They are downright cruel to minorities who are independent and disagree with them.
Now they will bitch about the tax cuts because it allows people to elevate themselves. More jobs get created, More people able to move up the ladder.

Middle class has been totally screwed by the left. They pretend they care but always screw the middle class because we pay for their wealth redistribution to their favorite groups. Their dependents get refunds because we are paying more than we should. The Dems are pretty damn generous with our money but do everything possible to keep their own.

How on Earth does the left think, exactly? The left isn't on unified body, you do realize that, right?

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


.

The left thinks government should control everything. They have been preaching, especially in the last 8 years, that people are not responsible for their own lives. It's white people's fault that they drop out of school and make poor decisions. It's the cops fault that they commit crimes. It's rich people's fault that they are poor. It's society's fault that they do stupid shit. It's the school's fault that they remain uneducated since they teach things only white people can understand. Apparently, the left doesn't want to try to actually educate anyone and decided that all students should remain ignorant of history and every other subject.

Has nothing to do with teachers trying to deal with multiple languages in the classroom. Nothing to do with too many generations on welfare and uneducated. Nothing to do with the gang mindset that lacks total respect for society. Nothing to do with the left constantly indoctrinating people by convincing them they are victims of this or that. It's all about coddling people and encouraging them to blame others for all their woes.

The left says we should pay for abortions or we will have to pay to raise the child. They say we have to house, cloth, feed, educate and take care of people since they can't do anything on their own. The left constantly reminds us that blacks are not as smart or capable as whites. They say math is a white thing. Cursive writing is too hard so they eliminated that. Getting an ID is supposedly too difficult for minorities.

The left sees their constituents as helpless sheep who cannot be expected to do anything for themselves. Of course, decades of liberal interference in people's lives has not done a damn thing to elevate anyone. It's merely dumbed people down and made them permanently dependent.

Even if we pay for training for many, it won't work. You can lead a horse to water.....................

The left seems to prefer dependence. They are downright cruel to minorities who are independent and disagree with them.
Now they will bitch about the tax cuts because it allows people to elevate themselves. More jobs get created, More people able to move up the ladder.

Middle class has been totally screwed by the left. They pretend they care but always screw the middle class because we pay for their wealth redistribution to their favorite groups. Their dependents get refunds because we are paying more than we should. The Dems are pretty damn generous with our money but do everything possible to keep their own.

How on Earth does the left think, exactly? The left isn't on unified body, you do realize that, right?

 

[francoHFW]

It's not the federal governments job to train people for employment, it's the person seeking employment to get themselves qualified or the company to establish an apprenticeship program and train their own employees. When are you idiots going to figure out the feds aren't suppose to be involved in matters concerning individual citizens, that is a State job.


.

The left thinks government should control everything. They have been preaching, especially in the last 8 years, that people are not responsible for their own lives. It's white people's fault that they drop out of school and make poor decisions. It's the cops fault that they commit crimes. It's rich people's fault that they are poor. It's society's fault that they do stupid shit. It's the school's fault that they remain uneducated since they teach things only white people can understand. Apparently, the left doesn't want to try to actually educate anyone and decided that all students should remain ignorant of history and every other subject.

Has nothing to do with teachers trying to deal with multiple languages in the classroom. Nothing to do with too many generations on welfare and uneducated. Nothing to do with the gang mindset that lacks total respect for society. Nothing to do with the left constantly indoctrinating people by convincing them they are victims of this or that. It's all about coddling people and encouraging them to blame others for all their woes.

The left says we should pay for abortions or we will have to pay to raise the child. They say we have to house, cloth, feed, educate and take care of people since they can't do anything on their own. The left constantly reminds us that blacks are not as smart or capable as whites. They say math is a white thing. Cursive writing is too hard so they eliminated that. Getting an ID is supposedly too difficult for minorities.

The left sees their constituents as helpless sheep who cannot be expected to do anything for themselves. Of course, decades of liberal interference in people's lives has not done a damn thing to elevate anyone. It's merely dumbed people down and made them permanently dependent.

Even if we pay for training for many, it won't work. You can lead a horse to water.....................

The left seems to prefer dependence. They are downright cruel to minorities who are independent and disagree with them.
Now they will bitch about the tax cuts because it allows people to elevate themselves. More jobs get created, More people able to move up the ladder.

Middle class has been totally screwed by the left. They pretend they care but always screw the middle class because we pay for their wealth redistribution to their favorite groups. Their dependents get refunds because we are paying more than we should. The Dems are pretty damn generous with our money but do everything possible to keep their own.

We are cruel to independent blacks or bought off con men... LOL. We remind you that blacks are less intelligent? You realize that is very racist right?

 

[francoHFW]

Yes, I know you would. But then Ray, I've seen a lot of your posts and seen the utter blatant blinkered partisanship from you, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

"A liberal", what is a liberal Ray? You couldn't define "a liberal" if you tried and be accurate because there is nothing that defines a liberal.

A liberal is a leftist. A liberal is a person of wealth envy. A liberal is a believer in Cradle-to-Grave government where personal responsibility is at the bare minimum and government makes all their decisions for them and everybody else. A liberal is a Socialist lite. A liberal is one who believes we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only a finite amount of money, therefore, the reason some have too little is because others have too much.

A liberal is one who sides with evil over good at every turn. A liberal is one that desires for our country to look like a giant freak show where guys hold hand with guys in public, guys wearing dresses use female bathroom and shower facilities, and animals having more rights than humans.

Yes I am a partisan. I am anti-liberal. I am pro-conservative and yell it from the highest mountain tops with pride.

And a Duke believes all that crap they get from a propaganda machine paid for exclusively bye greedy idiot GOP billionaires and their dupes. YouTube's are always telling us we're sucking Obama's dick or other obscenities and believe that liberals just care about their welfare checks. You are absolutely a disgrace. Poor America. Breaking... GOP and Democratic whites are exactly the same economically. Minorities know where the racists and obscene ignoramuses are, in the GOP.

The Democrat party (like the Republican party) have their support groups. The two biggest support groups of the Democrats are government dependents and victims. Democrats love victims and victims love Democrats.

So the goal of the Democrat party is to expand both groups and they've done so successfully. When DumBama was President, he created over 40 million more new government dependents between Commie Care and food stamps alone. It was no accident.

If we were to rid ourselves of government dependents and victims, there would be no Democrat party left. They would only be heard of in history books. So don't tell me Democrat voters are only worried about their welfare check--because they are.

The people on welfare and assistance are what is known as the unfortunates. God will not be amused with you.

And he will be amused with you supporting the party of baby killers and irresponsibility?

The party that just cut abortion numbers by 40% by having free birth control better than free actually? The intelligent party? Yes I believe he will be. The party that wants to help the poor and immigrants and the non-rich? And families with daycare and Healthcare and paid parental leave?

 

[francoHFW]

No it was commiecrat policies pushing their jobs offshore. 60% of our GDP during your glory years came form manufacturing, commiecrat policies have cut that in half, of course you'll never admit that because it would require admitting most of the things you believe aren't true.


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Menial manufacturing jobs have just followed a natural course too cheap pay in other countries. But other countries like Germany have trained their people for the tech jobs that we get more of from these new markets. Not you geniuses in the GOP....

Is that really what you've had to convince yourself of in order to live with yourself. You really are pathetic.


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That's a fact. 3 to 6 million technical jobs are going begging at the moment and we can't spare any money to train anybody it is stupid it is Republican

You don't know that important fact but you know everything about Hillary Clinton's evil scandals and other crap that has got nowhere near a courtroom.

Deflecting again?

Why do you keep bringing up the bitch?


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Okay well then the Mueller and the FBI and all that what a joke slander phony that is, or any other evil corrupt Democrats...

 

[Wyatt earp]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government fuck the little guy at every turn...

Or, you have to be screwing the govt over, in order to be making an absolute killing out of it.

We still won't know how much the rich are playing in taxes before or after, the catch must be they were paying little before, and they'll be paying fucking nothing after. In fact the govt will pay them to be rich.

Then how do the rich who supposedly pay nothing are paying over 90% of the revenue?

Because they make over 90% of the income, and you should count state and local taxes, which kill the non-rich....

The non rich vote for high local and state taxes do they not?

 

[francoHFW]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government fuck the little guy at every turn...

Or, you have to be screwing the govt over, in order to be making an absolute killing out of it.

We still won't know how much the rich are playing in taxes before or after, the catch must be they were paying little before, and they'll be paying fucking nothing after. In fact the govt will pay them to be rich.

Then how do the rich who supposedly pay nothing are paying over 90% of the revenue?

Because they make over 90% of the income, and you should count state and local taxes, which kill the non-rich....

The non rich vote for high local and state taxes do they not?

That's just the way the tax rates go in the Beautiful Reagan World of Tomorrow...

 

[Papageorgio]

So fucking what?
that's the point of money, to leave it to your kids....what planet do you live on?

The point is he didn't get rich working. Do you understand or do you need me to hold your hand and point out the important lines in the posts?

He did work, that’s the point. He didn’t just party and blow his money, he went on to work harder to accomplish what he has accomplished.

Your stereotyping the rich shows you are a bigot.

Is English your second language? What part of "he didn't get rich working" (he got rich inheriting/being gifted) do you not understand?

And again, why does it make a difference?

PAPAGEORGIO said Trump got rich working. This is false. I was explaining that to him.

Inherit and work to keep. Again why would anyone but a bigot care?

Is that what republicans mean when they tell people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps? "Work" by not partying and blowing your $10-20 million you inherited? No wonder it doesn't work.

Blowing 10-20 million, puts 10-20 million back into the economy and creates a demand which in turn puts people to work, which means it is taxed. It is a natural way of income redistribution, not forced as the government does. So it is all good. If everyone who inherited their money did this, the economy would be better.

I really don’t care how other people spend their money or if they inherited their money, it isn’t my business and I have more important things to worry about than whether you worked for your wealth or inherited your wealth.