pknopp
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probable cause--yes they did have a reason--and he resisted!!doesn't matter if he was innocent ...he should comply...YES you DO have to do what the police tell youIt was handled poorly, but bottom line is that dude brought what happened onto himself by not following basic instructions. That is indisputable...you are trying to hand-cuff the police --VERY stupid--so criminals will commit MORE crimeSo you want to defund the police until you need them?Well quit doing shit that makes people feel like they need to kill you before you kill them.You think every member of my wife's family liked having a peckerwood at the table?I don't have to go back that far, it's just a good example.Name another country that fought a war to free people that most folks didn't even consider human at the time.It's supposed to say that it could be a damn sight worse.Why don't you try being a minority in some other country?Try being an officer for even one shift.
Try being a black man in this country.
Bet you'll be back here before long.
Because America and other countries treat minorities badly is suppose to say what?
At least we try to make things better.
Some of us, anyway.
Not nearly enough.
I'll wait.
When you have to go back 150 years to find something..............
50 or 60 years ago it would have been illegal for me to marry my wife in most of this country.
But that got better and so will the rest if people would quit fucking it up.
Look at a large number of arguments here and elsewhere. We have a president that called those who tried to air their complaints SOB's.
That shit goes both ways.
It takes time to rub all the sharp edges off.
So people should just accept getting killed until we do that?
Cops are predators, they hunt people.
That's going to end.
This gets so old. This has been covered many times. We aren't getting rid of the police.
What if one of your family members had been raped, wouldn't you want a cop hunting the guilty down?
As opposed to chasing someone down and killing them over a bicycle violation? Yes.
They are doing it to themselves. Even Trump admitted that there is no reason to shoot man 7 times in the back at point blank range.
You want to talk about better police training, and better education for civilians in listening to police instruction? That is the way to handle these things. Absolving criminal blame because of how cops handle a situation brought about by a criminal?
NO.
As of yet we have seen no reason why the man had to listen to anything. Will a reason come out that he did? Maybe but as of right now we know of no reason he had to.
Example.
After being forcefully arrested, a Black jogger in San Antonio says he was 'guilty before proven innocent'
Unless the police can state a valid reason for holding you, you don't have to do squat. They don't get to shoot you in the back for walking away.
Facts don't seem to phase you.
After being forcefully arrested, a Black jogger in San Antonio says he was 'guilty before proven innocent'
Should is an opinion. No, people should not have to have to cede their civil rights ever. You think they should but I disagree. It's entirely up to the person in question but it's rarely a good idea to do that.
stop the idiocy NOW
..the LAST thing you should do, the dumbest thing you should do, the most DANGEROUS thing you should do is resist....and not only do they resist--they FIGHT with the cops!!!!
....please research and read, instead of babbling--thinking with emotions--like black criminals do...this is his FIRST mistake-thinking with his emotions
"Being a conscious, Black male, this raised an immediate flag," he said.
'''When officers moved to transport Ometu in a vehicle, he resisted.'''
He resisted because they had no legal reason to put him in the vehicle. He will likely now get a large settlement check. Why is it that you support this? It costs the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars every year.
SO, the cops are looking for a black male....they stop this guy and he IMMEDIATELY becomesuncooperative !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE--right there--PROBABLE CAUSE
'''''Probable cause is the key issue in the arrest process. The police need probable cause to make an arrest or obtain an arrest warrant from a judge.''''
''''Do not resist arrest, even if you believe the arrest is unfair.
Once you have been stopped, you no longer have the right to walk away''''
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When the Police Can Make an Arrest: Probable Cause
"Probable cause" requires more than a mere suspicion that a suspect committed a crime, but not an absolute certainty.www.nolo.com
We have discussed this over and over. Can't you see that you are losing this argument? Our civil rights are far more important than the cops arresting an innocent man. They are even more important than the cops arresting a guilty one.
the police acted within their LEGAL authority
''''''They acted "within their legal authority, and in a professional manner during the interaction with Mr. Ometu," McManus wrote.
"Unfortunately, the situation could have been resolved within minutes with any degree of information sharing with the police officers that would have helped them determine Mr. Ometu was not the suspect they were looking for in a domestic violence call."
just like Floyd--stupid
..you can't blame the police for your own stupidity:
He didn't fit the description. Blacks are tired of getting stopped simply because the cops are looking for a black man. They were looking for someone with a little scruff on his chin. This man had a full beard.
The police simply need to follow the law. They law stated that this man didn't have to do squat.