Once again pointing out the elephant in the room

[bendog]

And the bailouts rolled right on thru "both" "liberal" and "conservative" administrations against the wishes of ~90% of americans.

This is true, but Some want to conveniently forget the auto bailout should not of happened. Those were started by George W. Bush an absolute progressive. Fact

Well he sure did fool a lot of "conservatives".

Only a stupid fool believes conservatives voted for W or his dad… LOL
He was a big spending pro big government progressive here's the proof. Socialism always fucks over the individual

The problem with some folks who call themselves "conservative" is, they are never responsible for anything.

You got it backwards a real conservative is responsible for themselves, thus very little need for federal government "fairness". While it is human nature to seek out a deadbeat system like socialism, the individual that's really conservative will resist such things.

You describe a libertarian. A conservative can easily support public lands and park, enviro regualations, defense, all of which cannot be provided by "the individual."

 

[Onyx]

Fact: The soldiers brought their own firearms and pitchforks, went barefoot through the snow.

Yes, but fun fact, the continental army had no peacetime to gather arms and organize.

Mahknovist organization and even some modern military organization theories practiced in the third world also provide convincing evidence on how large militaries can be organized along anarchist principals.

Fact: There were courts with stricter in your face laws about adultery, out of wedlock pregnancy, selling liquor without permission, and unpaid debts than we have now.
I fear you're living in a dream.

Which were mundane and trivial for the majority of people that were living in the towns and country and such.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

It was for some I suppose.

 

[Rustic]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

That's true, but problems with payment in part led to the constitution, which provided
to tax, borrow, pay debt and provide for the common defense and the general welfare; to regulate commerce, bankruptcies, and coin money

So, to go back to this social contract you find to be a fiction, I suggest you have the right to vote for people to tax, or not, tax you.

Problem is the federal government pretty much disregards the 10th amendment, if you do not like where you live, move to another state is the way it should've been. The federal government has never been and never will be the be-all end-all... lol

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well, there are certainly always people who believe they are entitled to be in charge of other human beings.

Then there is the most annoying group. Those that support the system where people elect themselves as rulers.

You know, it is the same in an "honest" republic. It is of no consequence whether I am being ruled by a 51% majority or by a 1% minority.

Of course it is. Government is government, and I suspect you simply don't work well with others.

The federal government has never worked well with people they disagree with which happens to be the majority. But they don't give a shit about that, career politicians need a strong federal government to force their views on to other people those being People they disagree with. Socialism/progressivism is a disease that is fatal to any sort of freedom and individuality… Fact

You are at long last coming to an awarenss of what minority populations have always know in america. You just never minded until the colonialization turned your way.

 

[Rustic]

This is true, but Some want to conveniently forget the auto bailout should not of happened. Those were started by George W. Bush an absolute progressive. Fact

Well he sure did fool a lot of "conservatives".

Only a stupid fool believes conservatives voted for W or his dad… LOL
He was a big spending pro big government progressive here's the proof. Socialism always fucks over the individual

The problem with some folks who call themselves "conservative" is, they are never responsible for anything.

You got it backwards a real conservative is responsible for themselves, thus very little need for federal government "fairness". While it is human nature to seek out a deadbeat system like socialism, the individual that's really conservative will resist such things.

You won't even take responsibilty for the Bush's, c'mon. Everytime your version of "conservatism" fails you slide out from under it like you just did with the Bush's and fecklessly attempt to blame something else.

I have never voted for a career politician, never will. And there is no way you can prove that Bush was a conservative? LOL

 

[Onyx]

It was for some I suppose.

Ye, perfect by no means. Especially for the Africans, Native Americans, and the city dwellers subjugated to the church.

The good thing was that most people were self sufficient and had a very low tolerance for taking shit from their governments. Even after the British, as evidenced by the many subsequent rebellions which I believe were all justified.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

That's true, but problems with payment in part led to the constitution, which provided
to tax, borrow, pay debt and provide for the common defense and the general welfare; to regulate commerce, bankruptcies, and coin money

So, to go back to this social contract you find to be a fiction, I suggest you have the right to vote for people to tax, or not, tax you.

Problem is the federal government pretty much disregards the 10th amendment, if you do not like where you live, move to another state is the way it should've been. The federal government has never been and never will be the be-all end-all... lol

We tried that, but some savage barbarians insisted yoin ownership of other human beings.

 

[healthmyths]

My Dad was a volunteer fireman in my hometown for 20 years joining other responsible citizens!

That's great.

The future of humanity comes when we start doing good things for each other without the expectation of reward or the usage of violence.

They ain't really "volunteers ". The get paid . They also go through a bunch of training and use all kinds of equipment. Paid for by taxes .

How do YOU KNOW? Were your around in the early 1950s in the Midwest in a small town with population of less then 1,000?
And as far as getting paid"???? The only pay any volunteer fireman got was a burial check if killed in the course of fighting a fire!
You are insulting millions of volunteer firefighters over 100s of years with that stupid comment!

 

[Rustic]

Well, there are certainly always people who believe they are entitled to be in charge of other human beings.

And it is invariably NOT the person in charge. Count on it.

The person that fucks everyone over is usually in charge - and always is in the employment of the federal government… LOL

Sounds like american style capitalism.

Silly rabbit, it's called socialism every dictator in history is come right out of it… LOL

Well no, but you've got a myth to sell.

You have no proof that socialism has ever worked long-term - because it has not...
And "this time" it will not either. lol

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well he sure did fool a lot of "conservatives".

Only a stupid fool believes conservatives voted for W or his dad… LOL
He was a big spending pro big government progressive here's the proof. Socialism always fucks over the individual

The problem with some folks who call themselves "conservative" is, they are never responsible for anything.

You got it backwards a real conservative is responsible for themselves, thus very little need for federal government "fairness". While it is human nature to seek out a deadbeat system like socialism, the individual that's really conservative will resist such things.

You won't even take responsibilty for the Bush's, c'mon. Everytime your version of "conservatism" fails you slide out from under it like you just did with the Bush's and fecklessly attempt to blame something else.

I have never voted for a career politician, never will. And there is no way you can prove that Bush was a conservative? LOL

It doesn't matter who you vote for, as long as the public at large is unwilling to change it's own behavior, no change will come. The system will keep churning out what it does regardless of the revolving personalities, "career" or otherwise.

 

[Onyx]

Dear socialists,

Call yourself a collectivist and your life will be much easier.

Sincerely, Onyx.

 

[Rustic]

Well, there are certainly always people who believe they are entitled to be in charge of other human beings.

Then there is the most annoying group. Those that support the system where people elect themselves as rulers.

You know, it is the same in an "honest" republic. It is of no consequence whether I am being ruled by a 51% majority or by a 1% minority.

Of course it is. Government is government, and I suspect you simply don't work well with others.

The federal government has never worked well with people they disagree with which happens to be the majority. But they don't give a shit about that, career politicians need a strong federal government to force their views on to other people those being People they disagree with. Socialism/progressivism is a disease that is fatal to any sort of freedom and individuality… Fact

You are at long last coming to an awarenss of what minority populations have always know in america. You just never minded until the colonialization turned your way.

All my adolescence life I lived in a minority population thus being a minority… LOL

 

[Fenton Lum]

And it is invariably NOT the person in charge. Count on it.

The person that fucks everyone over is usually in charge - and always is in the employment of the federal government… LOL

Sounds like american style capitalism.

Silly rabbit, it's called socialism every dictator in history is come right out of it… LOL

Well no, but you've got a myth to sell.

You have no proof that socialism has ever worked long-term - because it has not...
And "this time" it will not either. lol

You have always had a blended economy, do some studying as opposed to spewing endlessly.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well, there are certainly always people who believe they are entitled to be in charge of other human beings.

Then there is the most annoying group. Those that support the system where people elect themselves as rulers.

You know, it is the same in an "honest" republic. It is of no consequence whether I am being ruled by a 51% majority or by a 1% minority.

Of course it is. Government is government, and I suspect you simply don't work well with others.

The federal government has never worked well with people they disagree with which happens to be the majority. But they don't give a shit about that, career politicians need a strong federal government to force their views on to other people those being People they disagree with. Socialism/progressivism is a disease that is fatal to any sort of freedom and individuality… Fact

You are at long last coming to an awarenss of what minority populations have always know in america. You just never minded until the colonialization turned your way.

All my adolescence life I lived in a minority population thus being a minority… LOL

Uh huh, shame none of that knowledge you were near rubbed off on ya.

 

[Onyx]

All my adolescence life I lived in a minority population thus being a minority… LOL

I lived as minority my entire life as well, and I am white.

 

[Rustic]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

That's true, but problems with payment in part led to the constitution, which provided
to tax, borrow, pay debt and provide for the common defense and the general welfare; to regulate commerce, bankruptcies, and coin money

So, to go back to this social contract you find to be a fiction, I suggest you have the right to vote for people to tax, or not, tax you.

Problem is the federal government pretty much disregards the 10th amendment, if you do not like where you live, move to another state is the way it should've been. The federal government has never been and never will be the be-all end-all... lol

We tried that, but some savage barbarians insisted yoin ownership of other human beings.

Confused?
Minority populations are fucked up and now more than ever because of the federal government and their "solutions"… LOL

 

[bendog]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

That's true, but problems with payment in part led to the constitution, which provided
to tax, borrow, pay debt and provide for the common defense and the general welfare; to regulate commerce, bankruptcies, and coin money

So, to go back to this social contract you find to be a fiction, I suggest you have the right to vote for people to tax, or not, tax you.

Problem is the federal government pretty much disregards the 10th amendment, if you do not like where you live, move to another state is the way it should've been. The federal government has never been and never will be the be-all end-all... lol

There's no doubt the feds have extended.

 

[Rustic]

My Dad was a volunteer fireman in my hometown for 20 years joining other responsible citizens!

That's great.

The future of humanity comes when we start doing good things for each other without the expectation of reward or the usage of violence.

They ain't really "volunteers ". The get paid . They also go through a bunch of training and use all kinds of equipment. Paid for by taxes .

How do YOU KNOW? Were your around in the early 1950s in the Midwest in a small town with population of less then 1,000?
And as far as getting paid"???? The only pay any volunteer fireman got was a burial check if killed in the course of fighting a fire!
You are insulting millions of volunteer firefighters over 100s of years with that stupid comment!

Timmy falls down the Well a lot...

 

[Fenton Lum]

Can I get an example of any place on the planet that runs on voluntary taxes !?!

Facts about colonial america.

The Continental Army was funded with no taxes. There were no social services. The law was mundane and trivial. There were no conventional police.

In other words, the good old days.

That's true, but problems with payment in part led to the constitution, which provided
to tax, borrow, pay debt and provide for the common defense and the general welfare; to regulate commerce, bankruptcies, and coin money

So, to go back to this social contract you find to be a fiction, I suggest you have the right to vote for people to tax, or not, tax you.

Problem is the federal government pretty much disregards the 10th amendment, if you do not like where you live, move to another state is the way it should've been. The federal government has never been and never will be the be-all end-all... lol

We tried that, but some savage barbarians insisted yoin ownership of other human beings.

Confused?
Minority populations are fucked up and now more than ever because of the federal government and their "solutions"… LOL

Oh I've heard all that crap, I just don't buy into it like you have.