Once Upon a Time, the DOJ Argued the Presidential Records Act Gave a President Massive Authority Over His Records

[excalibur]

Not under the Presidential Records Act:

"The 1978 law, not mentioned in the indictment, states just the opposite, as it requires records created by presidents and vice presidents be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) at the end of their administrations."

Trump makes legal claims about classified documents, experts push back: Fact check

Once Upon a Time, the DOJ Argued the Presidential Records Act Gave a President Massive Authority Over His Records

Not long ago, in what is a seminal court case, involving Bill Clinton, the DOJ sided with Clinton. Jack Smith, the buffoon that he is, ignored this in his vendetta against Trump. In defending NARA, the Justice Department argued that NARA doesn’t have “a duty to engage in a never-ending search...

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[excalibur]

The warehouse in Chicago was a secure NARA facility.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

False.

And you cannot prove it was.

But, I can prove it wasn't.

 

[georgephillip]

Those documents belonged to him.

"'Under the Presidential Records Act, the Archivist of the United States assumed legal custody of all Trump White House official records immediately upon President Biden's swearing in as President,' Baron said. 'Every piece of paper constituting an official document, whether it was classified or unclassified, should have been turned over to NARA. Moreover, when NARA staff asked for the return of the records improperly taken, the former President should have immediately given NARA every official document in his possession.'"

Trump makes legal claims about classified documents, experts push back: Fact check

 

[Marener]

We still do not have all of Obama's docs, we don't know where Hillary's emails went and Joe still has boxes of documents in his garage. At least Trump was cooperating.

Trump wasn’t cooperating. He literally lied and failed to comply with a subpoena for documents.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So now when you can't dispute something, it's fake news.

 

[excalibur]

Mar a Lago hosts thousands of people and employs hundreds of employees. Secret Service protects Trump, not his junk. They had no idea the documents were there.

They were in the Trump residence at MAL, which has 24/7 Secret Service protection. No one gets into the residence without Secret Service approval and vetting.

 

[Marener]

But, I can prove it wasn't.

Go ahead and try.

Here’s NARA listing the warehouse as one of their facilities:

Federal Register :: Request Access

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[Marener]

Prove any of that.

The DoJ stated this in their indictment. It will be fully proven in court.

Prove Trump was cooperating.

 

[excalibur]

We still do not have all of Obama's docs, we don't know where Hillary's emails went and Joe still has boxes of documents in his garage. At least Trump was cooperating.

See:

Who Controls Obama's Papers? His Foundation and Not NARA

The New York Times had this years ago. Yet people lie about who controls the millions of pages of documents Øbama took with him. And no one knows what may be in some of those papers. And the entire complex, including the museum chronicling Mr. Obama’s presidency, will be run by the...

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[Marener]

They were in the Trump residence at MAL, which has 24/7 Secret Service protection. No one gets into the residence without Secret Service approval and vetting.

They did when he was president.

Not anymore.

 

[excalibur]

The warehouse in Chicago was a secure NARA facility.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Direct link in the tweet to the Obama Foundation.

 

[excalibur]

They did when he was president.

Not anymore.

Trump's MAL residence has 24/7 Secret Service protection.

 

[Marener]

See:

Who Controls Obama's Papers? His Foundation and Not NARA

The New York Times had this years ago. Yet people lie about who controls the millions of pages of documents Øbama took with him. And no one knows what may be in some of those papers. And the entire complex, including the museum chronicling Mr. Obama’s presidency, will be run by the...

www.usmessageboard.com

I see you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
You linked to an article about Obama’s presidential center. This is what the article said, which you didn’t read:
“In a break with precedent, there will be no research library on site, and none of Mr. Obama’s official presidential records.”

Hoffmann Estates isn’t the presidential center.

 

[Leo123]

See:

Who Controls Obama's Papers? His Foundation and Not NARA

The New York Times had this years ago. Yet people lie about who controls the millions of pages of documents Øbama took with him. And no one knows what may be in some of those papers. And the entire complex, including the museum chronicling Mr. Obama’s presidency, will be run by the...

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Yeah and Obama refused to release FOIA requested documents.

 

[Marener]

Direct link in the tweet to the Obama Foundation.

That document references Hoffman Estates which is a NARA facility. The document doesn’t claim otherwise.

 

[Leo123]

The DoJ stated this in their indictment. It will be fully proven in court.

Prove Trump was cooperating.

The DOJ is corrupt.

 

[BackAgain]

Not long ago, in what is a seminal court case, involving Bill Clinton, the DOJ sided with Clinton.

Jack Smith, the buffoon that he is, ignored this in his vendetta against Trump.

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The DOJ has no problem with its own legal inconsistency.

 

[Marener]

Yeah and Obama refused to release FOIA requested documents.

So did Trump and every other administration.

What the Trump administration meant for freedom of information requests

<p>The election of Donald Trump promised an epic test for the Freedom of Information Act. On one side, the powerful, yet deeply flawed, transparency law that turned 50 years old a few months before Trump’s 2016 election. On the other, a brash, dishonest, norm-flouting billionaire who had spent...

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[excalibur]

"'Under the Presidential Records Act, the Archivist of the United States assumed legal custody of all Trump White House official records immediately upon President Biden's swearing in as President,' Baron said. 'Every piece of paper constituting an official document, whether it was classified or unclassified, should have been turned over to NARA. Moreover, when NARA staff asked for the return of the records improperly taken, the former President should have immediately given NARA every official document in his possession.'"

Trump makes legal claims about classified documents, experts push back: Fact check

Not what the DOJ argued in court when they won the Clinton sock drawer tapes lawsuit. Obviously, the court agreed with the DOJ.

 

[excalibur]

That document references Hoffman Estates which is a NARA facility. The document doesn’t claim otherwise.

Can you read the outlined part? Hmmm?