Open borders and open trade

[Indeependent]

Can we get back to the comical avocation for government market control, IE, protectionism, IE, socialism?

The funniest part of this is that for a person who knows all of this back and forth it took you over 10 minutes to look it up rather than put it in your own words.
But I'll state it as follows...slowly manipulate Economic Policy for the "Good of the Nation" while it's all REALLY being done for the good of the Top 1.x%.

 

[Dale Smith]

Can we get back to the comical avocation for government market control, IE, protectionism, IE, socialism?

Listen up, dumb fuck, you totally avoided my post about comparing slave labor with living wage labor while pretending that they are mutually exclusive which tells me that you are a blithering idiot. I bet you are a big time believer in central banks as well. You don't have the slightest clue AT all......

 

[Onyx]

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

Seriously, any debate with him is unwinnable.

Just quit while you are head. Otherwise you will be endlessly bombarded by emotional hyperbole and disjointed rhetoric.

 

[Brain357]

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

Seriously, any debate with him is unwinnable.

Just quit while you are head. Otherwise you will be endlessly bombarded by emotional hyperbole and disjointed rhetoric.

Well it has already been won. He's clearly an idiot. Nobody who can be taken seriously thinks tariffs are a good idea.

 

[Onyx]

Yeah mate, I stopped arguing with you morons when I realized you two were incapable or being intellectually honest or rational.

Just keep preaching to the voices inside your head.

 

[Dale Smith]

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

Seriously, any debate with him is unwinnable.

Just quit while you are head. Otherwise you will be endlessly bombarded by emotional hyperbole and disjointed rhetoric.

STFU...according to your ideals....everyone should be on a fucking plantation working for "da massa" and using their slave wages to buy from the company store....fuck you, ass wipe. You don't have the slightest fucking clue even though you lamely attempt to act like you do....

 

[Indeependent]

A policy of imposing tariffs against imports from China, Japan and Mexico, which as economist Mark J. Perry notes is really a tax on U.S. consumers, would, if “effective,” dramatically reduce U.S. exports to the targeted countries. The study finds, “Even without retaliation, exports to the three countries would fall by 78% as a result of business losses that the three countries would incur as U.S. imports from them declined.”

Upending the world trading system would bring dramatic results, none of them good for Americans. Donald Trump fails to understand that and indeed boasts about how much harm he can do to other countries, while also failing to realize it is Americans who he will harm the most. Doesn’t that make him a dangerous man to hand the power of the presidency?

Japan and Germany make quality products and pay their workers well.

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

 

[Dale Smith]

Yeah mate, I stopped arguing with you morons when I realized you two were incapable or being intellectually honest or rational.

Just keep preaching to the voices inside your head.

I know more than you...infinitely more.

 

[Onyx]

Well it has already been won. He's clearly an idiot. Nobody who can be taken seriously thinks tariffs are a good idea.

That's whats so hard about it though.

It is next to impossible to prove to an idiot that he is an idiot. Such is the way of life I suppose....

 

[Brain357]

A policy of imposing tariffs against imports from China, Japan and Mexico, which as economist Mark J. Perry notes is really a tax on U.S. consumers, would, if “effective,” dramatically reduce U.S. exports to the targeted countries. The study finds, “Even without retaliation, exports to the three countries would fall by 78% as a result of business losses that the three countries would incur as U.S. imports from them declined.”

Upending the world trading system would bring dramatic results, none of them good for Americans. Donald Trump fails to understand that and indeed boasts about how much harm he can do to other countries, while also failing to realize it is Americans who he will harm the most. Doesn’t that make him a dangerous man to hand the power of the presidency?

Japan and Germany make quality products and pay their workers well.

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

Really? Even thought that has never happened? How will it do that exactly?

 

[Dale Smith]

A policy of imposing tariffs against imports from China, Japan and Mexico, which as economist Mark J. Perry notes is really a tax on U.S. consumers, would, if “effective,” dramatically reduce U.S. exports to the targeted countries. The study finds, “Even without retaliation, exports to the three countries would fall by 78% as a result of business losses that the three countries would incur as U.S. imports from them declined.”

Upending the world trading system would bring dramatic results, none of them good for Americans. Donald Trump fails to understand that and indeed boasts about how much harm he can do to other countries, while also failing to realize it is Americans who he will harm the most. Doesn’t that make him a dangerous man to hand the power of the presidency?

Japan and Germany make quality products and pay their workers well.

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

These two idiots that we have been responding to are the wet dream of the global elites....un-fucking real.....

 

[Indeependent]

Yeah mate, I stopped arguing with you morons when I realized you two were incapable or being intellectually honest or rational.

Just keep preaching to the voices inside your head.

I know more than you...infinitely more.

To be honest it doesn't take much to know even a little bit more than Onyx about real life.

 

[Brain357]

Well it has already been won. He's clearly an idiot. Nobody who can be taken seriously thinks tariffs are a good idea.

That's whats so hard about it though.

It is next to impossible to prove to an idiot that he is an idiot. Such is the way of life I suppose....

If he hears how much of an idiot he is enough times maybe it will sink in...

 

[Brain357]

Yeah mate, I stopped arguing with you morons when I realized you two were incapable or being intellectually honest or rational.

Just keep preaching to the voices inside your head.

I know more than you...infinitely more.

To be honest it doesn't take much to know even a little bit more than Onyx about real life.

Yet you ignore history. You are the one in fantasy land.

 

[Brain357]

Japan and Germany make quality products and pay their workers well.

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

These two idiots that we have been responding to are the wet dream of the global elites....un-fucking real.....

No, we just understand economics.

 

[Dale Smith]

Yeah mate, I stopped arguing with you morons when I realized you two were incapable or being intellectually honest or rational.

Just keep preaching to the voices inside your head.

I know more than you...infinitely more.

To be honest it doesn't take much to know even a little bit more than Onyx about real life.

I tell ya what...tonight has been a real "eye opener"....I didn't realize that someone could be that fucking stupid...and we had the misfortune of posting to two of them......SMH......

 

[Brain357]

“It’s a common mistake that people who don’t really understand economics make that this would somehow be a tariff on exporters,” said Mark J. Perry, a professor at the University of Michigan at Flint and a scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “It would be actually be a tax on American consumers. And more than half of U.S. imports come in as raw materials. And those cheap imports benefit American companies that hire American workers to finish the production process. Trump is really harkening back to the outdated mercantilist positions of hundreds of years ago.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-economy-217496#ixzz4MYSvNXji
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[Onyx]

When both Friedrich Hayek and John Keynes can agree on something, you know it must be true.

That and all the logic, history, and facts that prove it is true.

 

[Dale Smith]

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

These two idiots that we have been responding to are the wet dream of the global elites....un-fucking real.....

No, we just understand economics.

You don't understand "diddly squat", dumb ass.......

 

[Indeependent]

Japan and Germany make quality products and pay their workers well.

Germany has quite a bit of free trade in that EU...

The coolest thing about non-brain functioning Neo-Cons is that when they have no sensible answer they click the smiley.

And you just keep speaking nonsense. Share some examples where tariffs have worked.

You have yet to tell us if you live off your Investments.
I will presume you do.
You are frozen in the past.
The technology of today allows non-Ricardian Free Trade to employ non-citizens, here and abroad, without sacrificing inventory.
The US has done so and produced a nation of food servers.
Tell me that's good.

I know it's good for YOU.
Tell me it's good for 98% of Americans.

Tariffs will return you and the owners and managers of MNCs to a normal income and relieve millions of people from serving coffee.
I know you shutter at the thought.

Really? Even thought that has never happened? How will it do that exactly?

I move my factory to China and can't sell as much product as I used to.
I am making less money and my wife and 30 mistresses need new implants since it's been 15 years since the last implants.
I have to have my analysts figure out at which point in sales I have to start firing more and more people (not so easy to do in China when you have a commitment with the Chinese government to maintain a certain workforce plus pay off local officials) and selling some of my estates and giving up some of my mistresses.
More than one company will reverse engineer your product, make a few changes and fill the gap left by you.
You either move back or your screwed.
Of course you now only have 5 mansions and only one mistress left (your well endowed secretary).

Yes, I worked on Wall Street.