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I'm not in the US. Duh.
You ever going to answer the question. Do products have protected status?
If someone cannot do their business because of their religion, they need to find another line of work....just like muslim taxi-drivers who declare their so-called religion prevents them from giving rides to people with dogs or with alcohol. Let them find another line of work.Because of the first amendment... “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”... that’s pretty clear. Just because the SCOTUS found slavery, or Jim Crow, or internment camps “constitutional” doesn’t mean they were constitutional.Why should they force businesses to follow health laws now, eh?So, you should support the Constitution over a 'law' that forces people to provide goods or services.No. Your amateur interpretation is.yes or noYou believe in sick, dystopian nonsense.
Is the US Constitution dystopian?
I ask, b/c that's what it sounds like you are saying, but I'm going to give you the chance to backpeddle.
key word; FORCE
Asked and answered earlier. They either break the law, leave the country, or sin against their own religion.How do you know that would never happen? All I have to do, like this couple did, is say it does......then what?Health laws do not conflict with their religion.Why should they force businesses to follow health laws now, eh?So, you should support the Constitution over a 'law' that forces people to provide goods or services.No. Your amateur interpretation is.yes or no
Is the US Constitution dystopian?
I ask, b/c that's what it sounds like you are saying, but I'm going to give you the chance to backpeddle.
key word; FORCE
He offered the service. Not the product.In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination. Individual states can and do create other protected classes, which are protected under that state's law.Should the seller be forced to sell something he doesn't want to, ie, do protective rights apply to products.
No one should be forced to sell anything they don't want to sell, for any reason. I don't know what you mean by "protective rights".
Do these laws apply to products, as well?
I think such laws are invalid to begin with. The distinction between services and products is immaterial.
He did not offer gay-themed wedding cakes. Gay-themed wedding cakes have no rights to be offered or sold. What he did offer he offered to everyone equally.I'm not in the US. Duh.
You ever going to answer the question. Do products have protected status?
OK, not in US - that's fine. Law differ.
No products don't have a protected status. However the baker offered the product (Wedding Cakes) as a normal part of their business model. He didn't refuse service because the product (Wedding Cakes) wasn't offered, he refused service based on who the customers were.
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Products are not services.He offered the service. Not the product.In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination. Individual states can and do create other protected classes, which are protected under that state's law.Should the seller be forced to sell something he doesn't want to, ie, do protective rights apply to products.
No one should be forced to sell anything they don't want to sell, for any reason. I don't know what you mean by "protective rights".
Do these laws apply to products, as well?
I think such laws are invalid to begin with. The distinction between services and products is immaterial.
Why does it matter? Selling someone a product can be described as a "service". Outside semantics, what difference does it make?
So...you want to compare our laws...passed by legislatures, subject to judicial review, capable of being repealed....to NAZI edicts? You're a trumpanzee, aren't you?Nazi law said Jews and others...negroes, for instance...were something less than human. Under people, they called them.Because making businesses that have a business license follow business laws is SO MUCH like the NAZIS forcing Jews to play instruments at the ovens.Nazis forced Jews to play their instruments at the ovens. Today's progressives think Christians should be forced to create celebratory works of art for homosexuals to feast upon during their orgies.
^ trumpanzee logic. Anyone wonder why these kinds of dolts voted for trump?
Of course we must all follow laws.
Products are not services.He offered the service. Not the product.In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination. Individual states can and do create other protected classes, which are protected under that state's law.No one should be forced to sell anything they don't want to sell, for any reason. I don't know what you mean by "protective rights".
Do these laws apply to products, as well?
I think such laws are invalid to begin with. The distinction between services and products is immaterial.
Why does it matter? Selling someone a product can be described as a "service". Outside semantics, what difference does it make?
You were discussing the Nazis and their laws. And the need to follow laws.So...you want to compare our laws...passed by legislatures, subject to judicial review, capable of being repealed....to NAZI edicts? You're a trumpanzee, aren't you?Nazi law said Jews and others...negroes, for instance...were something less than human. Under people, they called them.Because making businesses that have a business license follow business laws is SO MUCH like the NAZIS forcing Jews to play instruments at the ovens.Nazis forced Jews to play their instruments at the ovens. Today's progressives think Christians should be forced to create celebratory works of art for homosexuals to feast upon during their orgies.
^ trumpanzee logic. Anyone wonder why these kinds of dolts voted for trump?
Of course we must all follow laws.
Equality laws do not apply to products.Products are not services.He offered the service. Not the product.In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination. Individual states can and do create other protected classes, which are protected under that state's law.
Do these laws apply to products, as well?
I think such laws are invalid to begin with. The distinction between services and products is immaterial.
Why does it matter? Selling someone a product can be described as a "service". Outside semantics, what difference does it make?
LOL - okay, fine. So what?
He did not offer gay-themed wedding cakes. Gay-themed wedding cakes have no rights to be offered or sold. What he did offer he offered to everyone equally.
Equality laws do not apply to products.Products are not services.He offered the service. Not the product.I think such laws are invalid to begin with. The distinction between services and products is immaterial.
Why does it matter? Selling someone a product can be described as a "service". Outside semantics, what difference does it make?
LOL - okay, fine. So what?
You shouldn't have edited my quote from the baker.He did not offer gay-themed wedding cakes. Gay-themed wedding cakes have no rights to be offered or sold. What he did offer he offered to everyone equally.
If you were to have read the court documents in the facts that the baker(s) agree to...
There was never a discussion about decorations. They did not refuse a "gay themed" cake as no design discussions occurred. As soon as the baker(s) leaned that it was a same-sex couple service was refused.
Again, not design discussions took place.
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Baking is a service. The product is the cake. The cake has no rights. None whatsoever. No right to be baked, no right to be offered or sold.Equality laws do not apply to products.Products are not services.He offered the service. Not the product.
Why does it matter? Selling someone a product can be described as a "service". Outside semantics, what difference does it make?
LOL - okay, fine. So what?
I guess I just don't see any meaningful distinction between forcing someone to bake you a cake and forcing them to sell you a cake that they've already baked.
I was replying to YOUR discussion of NAZIS and their laws. Please remember your own posts. TIA.You were discussing the Nazis and their laws. And the need to follow laws.So...you want to compare our laws...passed by legislatures, subject to judicial review, capable of being repealed....to NAZI edicts? You're a trumpanzee, aren't you?Nazi law said Jews and others...negroes, for instance...were something less than human. Under people, they called them.Because making businesses that have a business license follow business laws is SO MUCH like the NAZIS forcing Jews to play instruments at the ovens.Nazis forced Jews to play their instruments at the ovens. Today's progressives think Christians should be forced to create celebratory works of art for homosexuals to feast upon during their orgies.
^ trumpanzee logic. Anyone wonder why these kinds of dolts voted for trump?
Of course we must all follow laws.
And I replied to yours. Try to keep up K.I was replying to YOUR discussion of NAZIS and their laws. Please remember your own posts. TIA.You were discussing the Nazis and their laws. And the need to follow laws.So...you want to compare our laws...passed by legislatures, subject to judicial review, capable of being repealed....to NAZI edicts? You're a trumpanzee, aren't you?Nazi law said Jews and others...negroes, for instance...were something less than human. Under people, they called them.Because making businesses that have a business license follow business laws is SO MUCH like the NAZIS forcing Jews to play instruments at the ovens.Nazis forced Jews to play their instruments at the ovens. Today's progressives think Christians should be forced to create celebratory works of art for homosexuals to feast upon during their orgies.
^ trumpanzee logic. Anyone wonder why these kinds of dolts voted for trump?
Of course we must all follow laws.
Happy New Years too, THESE LOSER MENTAL ANAL RELIGIOUS BOY RAPE SUPPORTER BAKER MORONS. As you will always bake cakes for raper priest klans roaming our streets. Following fake gods, does suck folks, as shown here by these losers. And costly as well. For what in the end? Just to show others
who are the sickest mental thinkers, walking the planet are.
This too is an obvious contradiction to the Constitution. Products do not have rights.
So anyone who is forced to serve others in their BUSINESS because of race/religion/gender is a slave?You think the government should force people to produce what they don't want to produce. It's called forced labor.That's cool....no business licenses no safety laws no health laws to follow now...all one has to do is state it's against their so-called religion.A home is private propertyThe Dumb Democrat Bigots are against Freedom of Religion.
Keep it in your home, where you can be as mentally sick as you want to be, as you offer your kids to priest for fake lord love.
a bakery is also private property
therefore, you proved your support for the gay couple to be wrong.
congratulations.
