Oregon Bakers: You get to pay 135,000 for being radical religious morons, Judge so orders!

[bodecea]

I think faggot businesses in OR are fair game now. You take away peoples rights...they'll find a way to get some get back.

How goes your local church priest raping your kids today?
Seems OR., wants to stop these crimes.

It IS interesting how it took secular law to find justice for those molested by religious leaders.

 

[JoeB131]

SCOTUS reversals are the same thing. Happens all the time. Ask old Jim Crow, another failed Dem cause.

Not even close. Jim Crow was in obvious contradiction to the constitution to roll back rights that had already been won.

PA laws are meant to expand rights, which is why they've been upheld for 50 years.

But here's why you homophobes are going to be on the losing side of history. Because you are more likely to have a gay in your family than someone of another race. And if you don't want to get the stink-eye at thanksgiving, you'd better mind your P's and Q's.

 

[JoeB131]

You forgot the part about the men rejecting the daughters and wanting the man.

Were angels "men"? So why would an angel need a butthole, anyway?

 

[Aba Incieni]

SCOTUS reversals are the same thing. Happens all the time. Ask old Jim Crow, another failed Dem cause.

Not even close. Jim Crow was in obvious contradiction to the constitution to roll back rights that had already been won.

PA laws are meant to expand rights, which is why they've been upheld for 50 years.

But here's why you homophobes are going to be on the losing side of history. Because you are more likely to have a gay in your family than someone of another race. And if you don't want to get the stink-eye at thanksgiving, you'd better mind your P's and Q's.

This too is an obvious contradiction to the Constitution. Products do not have rights.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I think faggot businesses in OR are fair game now. You take away peoples rights...they'll find a way to get some get back.

How goes your local church priest raping your kids today?
Seems OR., wants to stop these crimes.

It IS interesting how it took secular law to find justice for those molested by religious leaders.

You're mainly talking about the Catlick Choich, and their victims didn't get justice.

 

[Aba Incieni]

You forgot the part about the men rejecting the daughters and wanting the man.

Were angels "men"? So why would an angel need a butthole, anyway?

He appeared as a man.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

You forgot the part about the men rejecting the daughters and wanting the man.

Were angels "men"? So why would an angel need a butthole, anyway?

Angels are male according to the bible, dufus. Why even try to debate me when you don't even know what youre talking about?

 

[WorldWatcher]

They made wedding cakes. The dykes were offered everything the bakers made.

The bakers (both Klein and Phillips) confirmed in court documents that they refused the sale of Wedding Cakes to the respective couples.

Whom should we believe you or the bakers themselves?


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[dblack]

PA laws are meant to expand rights, which is why they've been upheld for 50 years.

That may be the stated intent, but they do the opposite. They violate real, fundamental rights in the name of a delusion. There's no such thing as "right" to force someone else to do something for you. The concept is self-contradictory.

 

[Aba Incieni]

They made wedding cakes. The dykes were offered everything the bakers made.

The bakers (both Klein and Phillips) confirmed in court documents that they refused the sale of Wedding Cakes to the respective couples.

Whom should we believe you or the bakers themselves?


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I believe the quote you erased when you edited my post. From the baker.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Court rules against Oregon bakers who refused to make gay wedding cake
The Oregon Court of Appeals on Thursday upheld a $135,000 fine against two Christian bakers who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.

The case began back in January 2013, when Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of the since-closed Sweet Cakes by Melissa bakery just outside Portland, Oregon, cited their religious beliefs when declining to make a wedding cake for Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer.

Following the incident, the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries found the Kleins in violation of a 2007 state law that protects the rights of LGBTQ people in employment, housing and public accommodations. In 2015, the couple was ordered to pay the Bowman-Cryers emotional distress damages.
Court rules against Oregon bakers who refused to make gay wedding cake

Happy New Years too, THESE LOSER MENTAL ANAL RELIGIOUS BOY RAPE SUPPORTER BAKER MORONS. As you will always bake cakes for raper priest klans roaming our streets. Following fake gods, does suck folks, as shown here by these losers. And costly as well. For what in the end? Just to show others
who are the sickest mental thinkers, walking the planet are.

Melissa and Aaron Klein have been ordered to pay $135,000 to a lesbian couple the bakers declined to make a cake for. (Courtesy Sweet Cakes by Melissa)
“Support Sweet Cakes by Melissa”, which raised over $100,000 before it was shut down by GoFundMe, who stated that the campaign was not compatible with their terms of service.

WOW? The cake would have made them a few bucks. But they wanted to give them a 135K Cash wedding gift..LOL!

BTW: Really, these folks still follow gods after the church paid out 600-1.3 billion in damages for raping kids. WTF is with that? Preist ASSAULT on children (rape) okay
and still follows fake lords. but if, two adults, legal ones, and their personal sexual relationship is not to be allowed, and protested by mentally sick bakers. WTF is with THAT?

First Amendment?

What First Amendment?

We're Communists, you have no rights.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I fought the law and the law won

You fought the first amendment and the first amendment lost.

But there is the SCOTUS...

 

[Esmeralda]

Actually, they don't get the money...it's a state fine....a misconception....just like it's a misconception to say they sued. They never did.

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Actually, they don't get the money...it's a state fine....a misconception....just like it's a misconception to say they sued. They never did.

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Oregon court upholds $135,000 fine, part of ruling against bakery in gay wedding cake case

The $135,000 was a fine. The gay couple didn't sue them: they reported them.

 

[dblack]

I fought the law and the law won

You fought the first amendment and the first amendment lost.

But there is the SCOTUS...

This is much broader than the first amendment. The right to say "no" - essentially the right to not be bullied by others - is far more fundamental. That's what we're giving up - piece by piece - with ubiquitous government interference.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Actually, they don't get the money...it's a state fine....a misconception....just like it's a misconception to say they sued. They never did.

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Actually, they don't get the money...it's a state fine....a misconception....just like it's a misconception to say they sued. They never did.

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Oregon court upholds $135,000 fine, part of ruling against bakery in gay wedding cake case

The $135,000 was a fine. The gay couple didn't sue them: they reported them.

Punk ass faggots that they are. Snitches get stitches, as the brothas say...

 

[WorldWatcher]

Dykes refused.

The same-sex couple did not refuse the purchase of a Wedding Cake.

The bakers confirmed in court documents that they refused to sell them a Wedding Cake.


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[bodecea]

not sure why people cheer when the Constitution is ignored.

leftist, hating America since fdr

Did you feel that way when an Oregon dentist was fined TWICE as much under the same PA law for discriminating against a christian woman based on her religion? That's the precedent for this case, you know.

Yep. And it was bad precedent. Government should be protecting equal rights, not granting special privilege.

And how are you actively working to repeal the PA laws in your state?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Dykes refused.

The same-sex couple did not refuse the purchase of a Wedding Cake.

The bakers confirmed in court documents that they refused to sell them a Wedding Cake.


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You're talking in circles, because you edited my post.

Should he be forced to sell something he doesn't want to, ie, do protective rights apply to products?

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Dykes refused.

The same-sex couple did not refuse the purchase of a Wedding Cake.

The bakers confirmed in court documents that they refused to sell them a Wedding Cake.


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You're talking in circles, because you edited my post.

Should he be forced to sell something he doesn't want to, ie, do protective rights apply to products?

Fags should starve to death. Don't feed the faggots.

 

[dblack]

not sure why people cheer when the Constitution is ignored.

leftist, hating America since fdr

Did you feel that way when an Oregon dentist was fined TWICE as much under the same PA law for discriminating against a christian woman based on her religion? That's the precedent for this case, you know.

Yep. And it was bad precedent. Government should be protecting equal rights, not granting special privilege.

And how are you actively working to repeal the PA laws in your state?

This again? I'm not going to tell you personal details of my life - but I do work, actively, to get this kind of shit repealed. Are you suggesting I don't? Do you have point? At all?

 

[WorldWatcher]

A special gravel the gravel man does not offer.

If it's a special gravel and the company dosen't do special orders for other customers, then Public Accommodation laws don't require an services not normally provided.

However the bakers did normally provide Wedding Cakes as part of their business model and refused not because it was not a product they produced but based on who the customers were.

Here's the question all avoid: Should he be forced to sell something he doesn't want to, ie, do protective rights apply to products.

There is a difference between what our opinion is of what the law "should be" as opposed to what the law "is".

Personally I support the repeal of Public Accommodation laws in respect of rights of association and property as applied to private business entities.

But that is a different discussion about what the law should be and not how the law functions in reality.


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