Oregon said Obama stay away..so guess who's coming to Roseburg?

[Mertex]

The retarded may not obey laws, but if there is a law not to sell them guns.....they can't buy any legally. They will have to exercise a lot more effort to get them, which at least makes it harder for them to get them and longer. And some may not be able to at all. Allowing them to buy them is downright inhumane, but you don't care do you?

It's already against the law to sell a gun to an insane person, dolt.

How's THAT working out.

I guess their not enforcing it or retards like you wouldn't have guns.

I've had 4 background checks in the last year, dolt.

Yeah...by the same dolts in Alabama that vote Republican and frequent your bar? That's the problem....letting idiots like you pass the background checks.

Your reply here (and another one similar down the page) is the exact reason we object to government getting involved in these background checks. Just because somebody has a different point of view or attitude on a subject--you want to see them disarmed.

Don't be an idiot.....quit claiming that Obama and liberals want to disarm nutjobs.....we just want stricter rules applied when buying a gun. What's so bad about that? Are most conservatives afraid that they're going to appear mental when they do a background check on them?

Like the IRS, you on the left want to use government agencies to settle your political fights. If it were up to you, you would probably disarm every single righty on this forum. That's where the danger comes in.

Oh shut up.....your party is the one that is trying to use the government to inspect women's vaginas. And quit being melodramatic....nobody is trying to disarm every single righty on this forum.....just the ones that appear mental, like you. And yeah, that's where the danger comes in, folks like you, who don't know reason, having a gun at the ready.

 

[Mertex]

Crazy ppl need to be locked up and stay locked up. That would cut the anti gun chatter here by about 99 percent. The only people who want to deny good people the choice to defend themselves are people who want to do harm.

Bwahahaha....here are the masses from Roseburg that don't want Obama to visit with the victims.

Yes they were like that all over town. Except right at the airport, where there were 300...and at Lucero's funeral.

That victim's family thanked them for their support.

Yeah sure.....I noticed you took plenty of pictures to prove it.

 

[idb]

If you don't know what I meant you need to look it up... I won't waste my time on you!

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

More guns means more violence and death?
Who knew?!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's already against the law to sell a gun to an insane person, dolt.

How's THAT working out.

I guess their not enforcing it or retards like you wouldn't have guns.

I've had 4 background checks in the last year, dolt.

Yeah...by the same dolts in Alabama that vote Republican and frequent your bar? That's the problem....letting idiots like you pass the background checks.

Your reply here (and another one similar down the page) is the exact reason we object to government getting involved in these background checks. Just because somebody has a different point of view or attitude on a subject--you want to see them disarmed.

Don't be an idiot.....quit claiming that Obama and liberals want to disarm nutjobs.....we just want stricter rules applied when buying a gun. What's so bad about that? Are most conservatives afraid that they're going to appear mental when they do a background check on them?

Like the IRS, you on the left want to use government agencies to settle your political fights. If it were up to you, you would probably disarm every single righty on this forum. That's where the danger comes in.

Oh shut up.....your party is the one that is trying to use the government to inspect women's vaginas. And quit being melodramatic....nobody is trying to disarm every single righty on this forum.....just the ones that appear mental, like you. And yeah, that's where the danger comes in, folks like you, who don't know reason, having a gun at the ready.

Thank you for proving my point with "like you." That's exactly what I'm talking about. Somebody disagrees with you, and you would want to label them mental and take away their firearms.

There is only one thing more dangerous than allowing a mental person access to a gun, and that is giving Democrats power.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

More guns means more violence and death?
Who knew?!

Sure it does in the criminal world. That's why they're criminals.

 

[Meathead]

You're just jealous because Doofus George couldn't write himself out of a paper bag......nor talk his way out of one. And it seems like none of the 20 clowns trying to win the Republican candidacy are any better.

It's as sad as it is telling that the defense of Obama is reduced to comparisons to George W. Bush. In contrast, Reagan, who also replaced an unpopular and even more inept president had no need for comparisons.

The only reason I compared him to Doofus George is because GWB was the one that attacked the wrong country when we were attacked by Terrorists (9/11)....that his even bigger doofus brother has the audacity to say that he kept us safe. It's like the entire Republican party has been struck with comatose and they don't remember who was President when we got the worst attack ever....and now conservatives are trying to make Benghazi appear more evil and horrible than 9/11. He also tanked the country, and thanks to Obama, whom conservatives don't think is deserving of the Nobel Prize.....we were able to come out of it. And so what do Republicans think of George Bush? The majority of conservatives have a positive attitude toward George W. Bush.

God we could use another Reagan, but then presidents like that are for the ages and not your dime-a-dozen failures we've had of late.

Reagan was not your current right-wing nut job type of candidate.....quit ignoring some of his traits. Reagan negotiated with terrorists, he was in favor of gun control and raised taxes several times. Conservatives have selective memories........but I can see why you all cling to Reagan....besides him, we had Nixon.....a liar who got away with not being impeached.....and Doofus George, who tanked the country....so yes, Reagan was not that bad.

Bull, the only reason you compared Obama to Bush II is because any other comparison had not chance of making Obama look successful. We both know that.

Any comparison to any other president after Carter would make Obama out to be the mediocre and inconsequential president that he is. You are left with Obamacare and the Nobel Peace Prize, both of which are stained because of Obama himself.

 

[idb]

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

More guns means more violence and death?
Who knew?!

Sure it does in the criminal world. That's why they're criminals.

When do they become a criminal?
When they pull out their legitimately purchased gun and shoot someone?
How do you prevent selling to a potential criminal?

 

[JQPublic1]

Spoken like a Greek Greaser whose native land is the MOTHER of failures.

Ah, but you forget Africa. If you need an ego boost, ask Asc to tell you his stories about great jungle bunny civilizations, past and present.

Africa is a continent you idiot, Greasy Greece is an oil slick in the mediterranean.

Give it up. There is no country in Africa that is better off than Greece even after Greeks adopted socialist politics. Greece admittedly is the basket case of the wealthiest community of the world, but Africa is the basket case of the world itself. When Greece is as bad as Africa, or even black America, get back to me.

In the mean time, ask Asc to tell you stories about the great jungle bunny civilizations and their remarkable achievements and wealth.

I am not African Greaser. Besides I am putting Grease in context with the modern 1st world "civilized " countries because I live in that world. Greece is an embarrassment to Caucasians and is a failed state. But even some African countries probably have a higher GDP than Greece right now and are thriving .

 

[Meathead]

Spoken like a Greek Greaser whose native land is the MOTHER of failures.

Ah, but you forget Africa. If you need an ego boost, ask Asc to tell you his stories about great jungle bunny civilizations, past and present.

Africa is a continent you idiot, Greasy Greece is an oil slick in the mediterranean.

Give it up. There is no country in Africa that is better off than Greece even after Greeks adopted socialist politics. Greece admittedly is the basket case of the wealthiest community of the world, but Africa is the basket case of the world itself. When Greece is as bad as Africa, or even black America, get back to me.

In the mean time, ask Asc to tell you stories about the great jungle bunny civilizations and their remarkable achievements and wealth.

I am not African Greaser. Besides I am putting Grease in context with the modern 1st world "civilized " countries because I live in that world. Greece is an embarrassment to Caucasians and is a failed state. But even some African countries probably have a higher GDP than Greece right now and are thriving .

You lost. Get back to me when any black country is doing better than Greece. If Greece were populated by blacks, you might be right, but Greece is a European and still far more successful than any country outside of the West nad Eat Asian countries inhabited by people with higher IQs.

Africa is at the bottom of the barrel, whatever natural resources naure has provided.

Don't you get sick of losing?

 

[JQPublic1]

If you don't know what I meant you need to look it up... I won't waste my time on you!

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lot on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

 

[Meathead]

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lot on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

SO STOP COMMITTING SO MANY FUCKING CRIMES!!!

Tell blacks to stop killing people!

What kind of idiot are you anyway?!

 

[idb]

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lot on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

The amusing part of his position is that he argues against any form of gun control because it would unfairly impact on law-abiding citizens that have done nothing wrong.

 

[JQPublic1]

Spoken like a Greek Greaser whose native land is the MOTHER of failures.

Ah, but you forget Africa. If you need an ego boost, ask Asc to tell you his stories about great jungle bunny civilizations, past and present.

Africa is a continent you idiot, Greasy Greece is an oil slick in the mediterranean.

Give it up. There is no country in Africa that is better off than Greece even after Greeks adopted socialist politics. Greece admittedly is the basket case of the wealthiest community of the world, but Africa is the basket case of the world itself. When Greece is as bad as Africa, or even black America, get back to me.

In the mean time, ask Asc to tell you stories about the great jungle bunny civilizations and their remarkable achievements and wealth.

I am not African Greaser. Besides I am putting Grease in context with the modern 1st world "civilized " countries because I live in that world. Greece is an embarrassment to Caucasians and is a failed state. But even some African countries probably have a higher GDP than Greece right now and are thriving .

You lost. Get back to me when any black country is doing better than Greece. If Greece were populated by blacks, you might be right, but Greece is a European and still far more successful than any country outside of the West nad Eat Asian countries inhabited by people with higher IQs.

Africa is at the bottom of the barrel, whatever natural resources naure has provided.

Don't you get sick of losing?

I am an American and our exceptional economic model puts us at the top of the barre in the modern industrialized 1st world. Grease is at the bottom of that barrel and sinking deeper with every gasp of it's waning economic breath. Even Equitorial Guinea has a higher GDP than Grease and yes, EG is in Africa.

Where did those high Greek IQ's get ya... Maybe those Greek IQs need to be tested by Americans who know what they are doing///heh heh heh!

 

[JQPublic1]

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lot on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

SO STOP COMMITTING SO MANY FUCKING CRIMES!!!

Tell blacks to stop killing people!

What kind of idiot are you anyway?!

Why don't YOU tell the few blacks being arrested for so many crimes to stop. Oh, and while
You are at it tell the white criminals to stop too. Also DID YOU MISS THIS:

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lost on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

 

[Synthaholic]

What a pig.

Roseburg doesn't want him there, asked him to stay away, has been quite public about it.

So of course he's got to come and harass us on our own turf.

This isn't going to end well.


Obama Not Welcome In Roseburg, Says Local Newspaper Publisher


"President Obama will travel to Roseburg, Ore. on Friday to meet with the families of victims of the mass shooting at a community college there last week, White House officials said."

Obama to visit Roseburg Friday

You don't get to dictate what Obama does, and neither does that Republican rag of a newspaper. If the family members of the victims don't want to meet with him, they won't.

Excuse me? Last time I checked, MR. Obama was our employee. Furthermore, it's THEIR town, so that does convey some right for them to say, "Stay the fuck out."

More to the point - one that liberals never seem to get - it's just incredibly arrogant and crass of him.

Because a few kooks don't want him to come? Fuck them. Real Americans are always honored when the POTUS visits. No matter who it is.

 

[Synthaholic]

The grieving town Obama desperately needs to run out and comfort for a photo op, despite them not wanting him? Nice.

Who? Name them.

Only a few dozen kooks came out to protest him being there.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Its obvious you didn't know what I meant. That is somebody has to make the charge of unconstitutionality before a law is judged unconstitutional.

Then I take it you haven't heard about the lawsuit and resultant court ruling that the methods used by NYPD in their Stop and Frisk frenzy were unconstitutional. The stops were arbitrary and capricious, being statistically discriminatory towards Blacks and Hispanics.


The ruling came after a decade in which the number of police stops in the city ballooned. In 2011, almost 700,000 New Yorkers were stopped by police, a 600 percent increase from 2002. Almost 90 percent of the people stopped that year were completely innocent of a criminal offense, and 87 percent of those stopped were black or Latino.

NYPD Can't Just Stop And Frisk People For The Hell Of It Anymore, Says Memo

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

So the part about 90% of the people stopped and frisked were completely innocent and predominantly Black or Hispanic is lot on you, huh? Their Constitutional rights don't matter.
There's that White privilege again! TO you, criminality equates to being a minority... Have you even looked at the White crime statistics? I know you will drop the "proportionality" canard on me and compare White crime rates to Black crime rates per thousand; but, the raw numbers don't make me feel any safer when White criminals are ignored and NOT subjected to Stop and Frisk!

According to statistics, you are six times more likely to get murdered by a black than a white. Yes, per capita tells the real story.

So why did officers stop and frisk minorities? Probably because minorities are the most likely to be carrying a gun illegally. Probably because before stop and frisk, minorities were the primary groups that were doing the murders in NYC.

When you stop and think of all the innocent black lives that were saved when the program was in operation, it's a shame that blacks don't understand what's been keeping them safe. The 10% that cops busted and took off the street really helped the situation. Now those 10% or more are right back out there. BTW, what's 10% of 1,000?

 

[Synthaholic]

I find it funny that you see where I live and assume I'm some racist redneck.... Well, we all know what happens when you assume.

If you posted your photo would they still think you're a redneck? What do you think is people's first impression of you? Not Boston people or Nevada people - just people.

Honest question.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And now gun and violent crime have increased--particularly in the black community.

Please tell me how the NYC Stop and Frisk freeze has caused gun and violent crime to increase in the "black community." The so-called "black community," as white people define it, consists of far more than the NYC metropolitan areas.

People are more weary of carrying a gun if they know they can be stopped and disarmed for no reason at all. Now that they know it's no longer a possibility, they are carrying their guns once again. More guns in the hands of criminals means more violence and death.

More guns means more violence and death?
Who knew?!

Sure it does in the criminal world. That's why they're criminals.

When do they become a criminal?
When they pull out their legitimately purchased gun and shoot someone?
How do you prevent selling to a potential criminal?

You can't really. That's the point. A person that wants a gun in this country can get one. The best we can do is build more prisons and hike the minimum sentence for illegally owning or carrying a firearm in this country. Make it a federal offense.

 

[Ernie S.]

So....

I've had 4 background checks in the last year, dolt.

Yeah...by the same dolts in Alabama that vote Republican and frequent your bar? That's the problem....letting idiots like you pass the background checks.

No. actually by Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Or did you nor know a fucking thing about background checks?

They should keep background checking you until they find out the truth about you, that you are not mentally stable.

I find it funny that you see where I live and assume I'm some racist redneck.... Well, we all know what happens when you assume.

No, I didn't figure you were a racist from where you live....I happen to know people in Alabama that are not racist. I figured it out from the fact that you are die-hard red-neck conservative and most of your posts.

Some of the people that frequent my bar are a bit crude on the edges by the standards of thy typical Boston Liberal cross dresser, but I assure you they are, if nothing else, real, moral, honest people with integrity. They would see through you in a few seconds.

If they are anything like you, they are more than a bit crude on the edges........and about their morals and integrity, conservative red-neck morals don't mean shit nowadays. They would judge me without knowing me, especially if I gave any indication that I was not a red-neck tightly wound conservative.

Suppose you show me something I've posted that indicates I am more than a bit crude on the edges.
Could this be because of where I was raised? Or is it just my politics that you find crude?

I would, but under the new software.......all your crass posts were sent to the history bin and there is no accessing them unless you know the exact wording....

And I don't find your politics "crude" - just a bit arhaic and not based on sound and intelligent reasoning.

So... you have nothing. How typical. You're dismissed.