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well-regulated...
Hence the standing army which, if we're going to give the Constitution eyes, is clearly what the framers meant.
But if we're strictly reading the Constitution, to keep and bear arms, you need to be part of this "well regulated" militia; drilling regularly, deployed frequently as part of the training, willing to drop everything and go where the duly elected President and Congess send you...
Does that sound like anyone here? Obviously not. I know of none who dropped everything and enlisted...not a lot of WiFi in Khandahar I suppose.
You're stuck in the big govt knows better than you do and will provide
State Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms Provisions
Just strictly reading the constitution. "Well-regulated militia" is in the 2nd Amendment....is it not?
If you want to keep and bear arms, you're supposed to be part of a "well regulated militia". Sorry, that's what it says.
I have no problem with that... Except when your country needs you and you're part of this militia, you decide that you're too busy cashing checks to go to Khandahar or Bosnia.
It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.
Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.
Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.
Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.
We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.
Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.
Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.
Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.
We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.
Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.
Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.
Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.
We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
Its not that this isnt new, its that this is a non-issue.
The OP, and those who agree with him, makes the mistake of perceiving 'the government' and 'the people' as two separate and distinct entities.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The people and the government are one in the same; the government acts at the behest of the people, where the people are solely responsible for the good - or bad - government they get.
I have to ask Tampon, just how much interaction is he having with government on a daily basis, because the way he is carrying on, you'd think there's a guy in a trenchcoat outside his house monitoring him.
Frankly, other than paying taxes once a year, or the occassional traffic stop, my interaction with the government is pretty limited, and I think that applies to most people. Most of what government does is provide services quietly.
Now, yeah, what the NSA is doing is pretty out of hand and wasteful, because it accomplished nothing, and Obama needed to fix it a long time ago.
But I worry a lot more about a loon like Templar with a gun and without medication than I do the government.
I have to ask Tampon, just how much interaction is he having with government on a daily basis, because the way he is carrying on, you'd think there's a guy in a trenchcoat outside his house monitoring him.
Frankly, other than paying taxes once a year, or the occassional traffic stop, my interaction with the government is pretty limited, and I think that applies to most people. Most of what government does is provide services quietly.
Now, yeah, what the NSA is doing is pretty out of hand and wasteful, because it accomplished nothing, and Obama needed to fix it a long time ago.
But I worry a lot more about a loon like Templar with a gun and without medication than I do the government.
Ame®icano;8473734 said:I wish they would strictly interpret the 2nd amendment and leave guns to the militia only. Somehow, that would be government over-reach as well.
Some truth in what TK said but only in the broadest possible sense.
And where exactly in 2nd amendment is written to leave guns to militia only?
Ame®icano;8473805 said:You're so right. It's absolute drivel. Nothing new at all. The government has been and does regulate a great deal. He mentions no new regulations whatsoever, though some may be somewhat different than before. And little kids do not need government permission to sell lemonade in their front yard. As well, the govenment is not regulating religion via legalized abortion. If you don't want an abortion, the government is not going to make you get one. Yep, 7th grade level drivel.
Interesting... liberals have no problem with government regulations only when government regulating other then liberal agenda.
Jerkoff....you are reading shit that is not there. My comment was on the juvenile writing style.
I have a pet peeve. When people write things in a childish manner and present it as though it is some kind of scholarly theseis.
The OP is BELOW GRADE LEVEL for adult Americans who are self described politicos. It is embarrassing.
And why people haven't raised holy Hell against the intrusions is beyond me.Government intrusion doesn't bother the unaware, but Big Brother, indeed, is everywhere. For example, Under the Contract Clause (Article I, section 10), no state shall pass a "Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts," but in 1934, the Supreme Court began allowing states to interfere in contractual obligations. In Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell, the Court held that a Minnesota law prohibiting banks from foreclosing mortgages that were in default did not violate the Constitution. Since then, the government's been injecting itself routinely in private contracts, a glaring example being its interference in employer/employee contracts. Surely you have a job or have had one.I have to ask Tampon, just how much interaction is he having with government on a daily basis, because the way he is carrying on, you'd think there's a guy in a trenchcoat outside his house monitoring him.
Frankly, other than paying taxes once a year, or the occassional traffic stop, my interaction with the government is pretty limited, and I think that applies to most people. Most of what government does is provide services quietly.
Now, yeah, what the NSA is doing is pretty out of hand and wasteful, because it accomplished nothing, and Obama needed to fix it a long time ago.
But I worry a lot more about a loon like Templar with a gun and without medication than I do the government.
Contractual violations barely scratch the surface of the government's extra-Constitutional intrusions. With minimal research, even skeptics like you should find more.
The government even monitors what we eat and drink (did you know it even restricts the amount of sugar ketchup makers can add to their product? You want your ketchup a little sweeter? Too bad. Uncle Sam says no.).
Organ donations, inflation, property ownership, self defense, who we sleep with, even whether we can go to Canada for experimental drugs. On and on. Government monitors or controls so much in our lives - and so much that is unconstitutional. If you don't know these things, you really do have your head in the sand.
And why people haven't raised holy Hell against the intrusions is beyond me.Government intrusion doesn't bother the unaware, but Big Brother, indeed, is everywhere. For example, Under the Contract Clause (Article I, section 10), no state shall pass a "Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts," but in 1934, the Supreme Court began allowing states to interfere in contractual obligations. In Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell, the Court held that a Minnesota law prohibiting banks from foreclosing mortgages that were in default did not violate the Constitution. Since then, the government's been injecting itself routinely in private contracts, a glaring example being its interference in employer/employee contracts. Surely you have a job or have had one.
Contractual violations barely scratch the surface of the government's extra-Constitutional intrusions. With minimal research, even skeptics like you should find more.
The government even monitors what we eat and drink (did you know it even restricts the amount of sugar ketchup makers can add to their product? You want your ketchup a little sweeter? Too bad. Uncle Sam says no.).
Organ donations, inflation, property ownership, self defense, who we sleep with, even whether we can go to Canada for experimental drugs. On and on. Government monitors or controls so much in our lives - and so much that is unconstitutional. If you don't know these things, you really do have your head in the sand.
Likely because most everything is beyond you.
It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.
Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.
Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.
Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.
We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It may not be new, but that doesn't stop us from resisting it. There is no reason a person should allow a group of bureaucrats and politicians to have free reign over the people they are supposed to be subservient to.
It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.
Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.
Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.
Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.
We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It’s not that this ‘isn’t new,’ it’s that this is a non-issue.
The OP, and those who agree with him, makes the mistake of perceiving 'the government' and 'the people' as two separate and distinct entities.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The people and the government are one in the same; the government acts at the behest of the people, where the people are solely responsible for the good - or bad - government they get.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It may not be new, but that doesn't stop us from resisting it. There is no reason a person should allow a group of bureaucrats and politicians to have free reign over the people they are supposed to be subservient to.
It isn’t new, in fact it’s a trite, tedious, inane, and tired cliché.
If you believe your civil liberties are being violated then file suit in Federal court to seek relief, or get involved at the local level in politics.
But whining about ‘the big, bad government not knowing “its place”’ is naive, childish schoolboy politics.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It may not be new, but that doesn't stop us from resisting it. There is no reason a person should allow a group of bureaucrats and politicians to have free reign over the people they are supposed to be subservient to.
It isn’t new, in fact it’s a trite, tedious, inane, and tired cliché.
If you believe your civil liberties are being violated then file suit in Federal court to seek relief, or get involved at the local level in politics.
But whining about ‘the big, bad government not knowing “its place”’ is naive, childish schoolboy politics.
Your local government is far more invasive and "oppressive" than the federal government.
I feel you frustration and sympathize,
My ONLY complaint is that you imagine that this is something new.
It isn't.
It’s not that this ‘isn’t new,’ it’s that this is a non-issue.
The OP, and those who agree with him, makes the mistake of perceiving 'the government' and 'the people' as two separate and distinct entities.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The people and the government are one in the same; the government acts at the behest of the people, where the people are solely responsible for the good - or bad - government they get.
So, should the American Colonists have followed this reasoning when they settled here in America? You buffoon.
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
-Declaration of Independence
Your local government is far more invasive and "oppressive" than the federal government.
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. Prove it. When your government passes a healthcare law that strips you of your choice to choose your own insurance, its invasive and oppressive. When it spies on you without your consent via the NSA, its become invasive and oppressive. When it tries to force people to provide money for things they find morally reprehensible, it has become invasive and oppressive. When a child cannot freely express him or herself in school, the government has become too invasive and oppressive.
It may not be new, but that doesn't stop us from resisting it. There is no reason a person should allow a group of bureaucrats and politicians to have free reign over the people they are supposed to be subservient to.
It isnt new, in fact its a trite, tedious, inane, and tired cliché.
If you believe your civil liberties are being violated then file suit in Federal court to seek relief, or get involved at the local level in politics.
But whining about the big, bad government not knowing its place is naive, childish schoolboy politics.
I completely agree. The government needs to regulate certain things. I swear, these people who constantly complain about the government overstepping its bounds need to move to a third world country where people don't have decent protection from the government on almost any level. AND live there like a citizen of that country lives, not as ex-pats live. I've read over and over again how someone has lived in certain countries and knows what it is like. Hogwash. You don't know what it is like for a normal citizen to live there when you are an ex-pat living like a citizen from the West. Most government regulations are there to protect us from people who take advantage, from dangerous situations, from big business and small business who take advantage, from dangerous people, etc. Without those government regulations, the average working class citizen has little chance of being more than a doormat for those with wealth and power. Which makes it completely mystifying why any working class people would support the Republican party.
Your local government is far more invasive and "oppressive" than the federal government.
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. Prove it. When your government passes a healthcare law that strips you of your choice to choose your own insurance, its invasive and oppressive. When it spies on you without your consent via the NSA, its become invasive and oppressive. When it tries to force people to provide money for things they find morally reprehensible, it has become invasive and oppressive. When a child cannot freely express him or herself in school, the government has become too invasive and oppressive.
You have never lived in a country with universal health care. It is wonderful, great. If you don't like paying taxes for something you don't agree with, do what Thoreau did instead of sitting behind your computer stuffing your face with junk food and bitching about it. Oh, and that assumes you even pay taxes. Only people who work pay taxes.
You have never lived in a country with universal health care.
If you don't like paying taxes for something you don't agree with, do what Thoreau did instead of sitting behind your computer stuffing your face with junk food and bitching about it. Oh, and that assumes you even pay taxes. Only people who work pay taxes.
