Our Government Has Forgotten Its Place

[Mr Natural]

Just who exactly is The Government?

It's easy to attack something so generalized when one has to look closer to home.

Did YOU vote in the last local election? The Primary?

Did YOU go to the trouble to examine the background of local and judicial candidates? And the various initiatives and propositions?

Did YOU get involved in your political party at the local level?

Did YOU bother to make your views known to your local government representative? Or county? Or state? Or federal?

So, instead of swatting at flies, why don't you get involved and do something at the local government level?

Actually, I wish it was that easy, but those pesky parasites call lobbyists get in the way.

YOU are a "lobbyist" every time you contact your representative!

And who do you suppose has more influence over your rep, you and your and your phone call or letter or the lobbyist offering up big money?

 

[longknife]

Actually, I wish it was that easy, but those pesky parasites call lobbyists get in the way.

YOU are a "lobbyist" every time you contact your representative!

And who do you suppose has more influence over your rep, you and your and your phone call or letter or the lobbyist offering up big money?

If lots and lots of YOUs contact your reps, they pay attention!

 

[The T]

YOU are a "lobbyist" every time you contact your representative!

And who do you suppose has more influence over your rep, you and your and your phone call or letter or the lobbyist offering up big money?

If lots and lots of YOUs contact your reps, they pay attention!

Yep. But if they hear little, they are going to constantly do what THEY wish or what a lobbyist wants and that lobbyist may not represent your interest...
NOR your representative.

 

[The T]

Now you're interpreting...

Either the document is up for interpreting or it isn't; just not certain amendments; correct?

This is the basic lie that conservatives have to tell themselves; only "certain" interpretations are valid.

The language and punctuation separates the parts of the phrase.. the rights of the people are a separate part of the 2 part phrase/amendment.. it is simple goddamn English... perhaps you should actually look at the copy of the Constitution that was ratified

The people are not the militia... nor is there a requirement that they must be in the militia... only that the militia is essential and that the people (who can and do make up the militia when called upon) shall not have their right to bear arms infringed upon by the federal government

Go back and take basic goddamn English in school

I did read it; you're simply interpreting the Constitution to fit your anger that someone would suggest you're wrong. And the anger boils over into "goddamned" when you know you're wrong but can't admit it.

But keep up with the profanity; that always helps at 7 in the morning.

You're really boring.

The SCOTUS has interpreted it, and THEY disagree with YOU.

 

[Edgetho]

YOU are a "lobbyist" every time you contact your representative!

And who do you suppose has more influence over your rep, you and your and your phone call or letter or the lobbyist offering up big money?

If lots and lots of YOUs contact your reps, they pay attention!

Ask the stupid bitch, "What money?''

And who does the 'Lobbyist' represent...... Martians? Russians? Slobovians?

Or don't the AMERICAN people the lobbyist represents have the right to 'redress congress'?

Of course they don't. Know why?

Because that E-VUL Lobbyist might represent people that our resident dimocrap scum doesn't agree with.

That's how dimocrap scum work, they believe in Free Speech as long as it's THEIR speech.

When they say "Social Justice", what they really mean is "Just us"

You need to understand something people.... dimocraps are scumbags. Get it through your head.

 

[Contumacious]

It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America..

Actually AMERICANS are the ones who have forgotten the government's place in America. They act like a bunch of lilypads who need the government to solve all their problems.

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America. For reasons beyond my comprehension, our government now sees itself as the final authority on just about everything. If you want to get married, you have to ask the government first. You want a gun? You have to ask the government first. If you want to protest peacefully, you have to ask the government for a permit. If you are an 8 year old so much as wanting to sell lemonade on the street corner, you need to ask the government for permission.

Not only that, it wants to take over your personal choices as well. Why? Because it believes that it can do a better job than you at making your own choices in life. Even the very freedom to make a choice has been commandeered by our government. Look no further for an example this than the implementation of Obamacare. Government has become too large, too all encompassing for its own good. It has attempted to regulate the auto industry, and failed. It is trying to regulate our healthcare system, and once again failing. In fact, it is trying to regulate religion via the abortion mandate.

Nobody can be secure in their own privacy, no thanks to government. As evidenced by the NSA not even the contents of our phone conversations are secure. It has become more invasive, more imposing than ever before. Our politicians are unable and unwilling to cull its growth. Democrats will say "Oh, we need government, without government there is anarchy!" I would agree, if not only for the fact that we already have too much of it. Yes, we need government, but to what extent? With too much government there can only be tyranny, oppression, and undue advancement on our freedom.

Our rights as citizens are slowly diminishing in America, and Government is to blame. It has gone beyond its constitutional bounds. It doesn't matter who is president or what party is in power. The government has too much power. For those of you who believe our government cares about the people, nothing could be further from the truth. If they actually did, they would strive to protect the rights of its citizens, not usurp them on a constant basis. Government seeks to control you, from cradle to grave. Like a Leviathan in the waters, it lies in wait to consume the unsuspecting, and exact terrible vengeance on those who dare to stand against it. This, my friends, is how our government has forgotten it's place.

We The People built this government, and it's high time government understood its place once again.

Ignorant, partisan nonsense.

More Americans enjoy greater freedom and liberty today than at any other time in our Nation's history.

Gay Americans, for example, are at the threshold of finally realizing their comprehensive civil rights.

 

[Mr Natural]

And who do you suppose has more influence over your rep, you and your and your phone call or letter or the lobbyist offering up big money?

If lots and lots of YOUs contact your reps, they pay attention!

Ask the stupid bitch, "What money?''

And who does the 'Lobbyist' represent...... Martians? Russians? Slobovians?

Or don't the AMERICAN people the lobbyist represents have the right to 'redress congress'?

Of course they don't. Know why?

Because that E-VUL Lobbyist might represent people that our resident dimocrap scum doesn't agree with.

That's how dimocrap scum work, they believe in Free Speech as long as it's THEIR speech.

When they say "Social Justice", what they really mean is "Just us"

You need to understand something people.... dimocraps are scumbags. Get it through your head.

Ever notice, this douchebag can't reply to a post without whipping out the insults?

Here's an insult just for you: Go fuck yourself, asshole.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America.

Disagree. It's the American people who have forgotten the government's place.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

More Americans enjoy greater freedom and liberty today than at any other time in our Nation's history.

In some aspects, yes; in some aspects, no. We are moving down the road toward a police and nanny state.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

in most instances no. Especially regarding economic liberty.

 

[Avatar4321]

Or maybe we've forgotten our place

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

60% of all Americans (conservatives and liberals combined) believe that the government has too much power:

Perception and reality often have nothing to do with each other.

 

[The T]

It has become clearly evident that our government has forgotten its place in America.

Disagree. It's the American people who have forgotten the government's place.

Mutual I think...

 

[Avatar4321]

60% of all Americans (conservatives and liberals combined) believe that the government has too much power:

Perception and reality often have nothing to do with each other.

I agree. If they did, there would be 100% of Americans who believed that government has too much power

 

[Ame®icano]

I wish they would strictly interpret the 2nd amendment and leave guns to the militia only. Somehow, that would be government over-reach as well.

Some truth in what TK said but only in the broadest possible sense.

And where exactly in 2nd amendment is written to leave guns to militia only?

 

[Ame®icano]

I wish they would strictly interpret the 2nd amendment and leave guns to the militia only. Somehow, that would be government over-reach as well.

Some truth in what TK said but only in the broadest possible sense.

I'm in a family militia comprised of 4

-Geaux

Are you "well regulated"? No? Then you're unconstitutional. It states you shouldn't have be able to "keep and bear arms" otherwise.

First, well regulated by whom? Second, how do you know he's not?

 

[Ame®icano]

Are you "well regulated"? No? Then you're unconstitutional. It states you shouldn't have be able to "keep and bear arms" otherwise.

Of course we are regulated. I require training, accountability and they are required to buy the ammo for what they shoot

That's about all the regulations we need.

-Geaux

Doesn't sound like you keep records--quick; how many rounds did you squeeze off last decade?

When did the "family militia" report for duty in Afghanistan and Iraq? We could have used you...

It doesn't sound as if its accountable, and it's certainly not registered at to be part of the common defense. So, you are not able to "keep and bear" arms.

Give em up....c'mon.

OMG! You're trying too hard to sound smart... it doesn't work.

When you read "necessary to the security of a free state" it doesn't mean free State of Iraq or free State of Afghanistan.

And what does it mean "we could have used you". Who's we? You???

 

[PoliticalChic]

I wish they would strictly interpret the 2nd amendment and leave guns to the militia only. Somehow, that would be government over-reach as well.

Some truth in what TK said but only in the broadest possible sense.

"I wish they would strictly interpret the 2nd amendment and leave guns to the militia only."

They do.

Time for a remedial:

1. George Mason, Father of the Bill of Rights:"I ask, Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." (Jonathan Elliot, The Debates of the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, [NY: Burt Franklin,1888] p.425-6)


2. The Constitution gave Congress the power to raise and support a national army, and to organize “the Militia.” This is because an army didn’t naturally exist, while “the Militia” only had to be organized: it always existed. (See enumerated powers in Article 1,Section 8.)


3. The Supreme Court, in US v. Miller, (1939) “…militia system…implied the general obligation of all adult male inhabitants to possess arms, and, with certain exceptions, to cooperate in the work of defence.” It concluded that the militia was primarily civilians.


4. Today, federal law defines “the militia of the United States” to include all able-bodied males from 17 to 45 and members of the National Guard up to age 64, but excluding those who have no intention of becoming citizens, and active military personnel. (US Code Title 10, sect. 311-313)

 

[Ame®icano]

Seventh grade level work. Maybe 8th.

You're so right. It's absolute drivel. Nothing new at all. The government has been and does regulate a great deal. He mentions no new regulations whatsoever, though some may be somewhat different than before. And little kids do not need government permission to sell lemonade in their front yard. As well, the govenment is not regulating religion via legalized abortion. If you don't want an abortion, the government is not going to make you get one. Yep, 7th grade level drivel.

Interesting... liberals have no problem with government regulations only when government regulating other then liberal agenda.