Palestine Today

[Hollie]

Women judges in Islamic courts break glass ceiling

How nice that women can enforce theocratic totalitarianism, maybe even condemn other women to stoning, caning, lopping-off of extremities or gang rape to preserve the family honor as happens in Pakistan.

Oh, the wonders of Islamist sharia. Good enough for the 7th century, good enough for today.

Off topic.

Not so.

You’re just incensed that the goofy “glass ceiling” nonsense is just that, nonsense.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Norman Finkelstein: Outrage over Israeli Massacre Shows Power of Nonviolent Palestinian Resistance

Leave it to Tinmore to call the actions of Hamas and other Palestinians “ nonviolent “

Who got hurt?

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

 

[Hollie]

Women judges in Islamic courts break glass ceiling

Why is this news? Because they are not being beheaded for getting an education?

My take-away was that women "judges" enforcing sharia law gives credibility to 50 year old men taking 12 year old brides.

Off topic.

Not so. You’re just incensed that another of your silly YouTube propaganda videos was the subject of comment and critique.

You do understand that your endless cutting and pasting of YouTube videos and dumping them in a public discussion forum suggests that you should expect others will have a different reaction than yours, right?

 

[Hollie]

Leave it to Tinmore to call the actions of Hamas and other Palestinians “ nonviolent “

Who got hurt?

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

“The right of the peoples”. Did you forget?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Women judges in Islamic courts break glass ceiling

Why is this news? Because they are not being beheaded for getting an education?

My take-away was that women "judges" enforcing sharia law gives credibility to 50 year old men taking 12 year old brides.

Off topic.

Not so. You’re just incensed that another of your silly YouTube propaganda videos was the subject of comment and critique.

You do understand that your endless cutting and pasting of YouTube videos and dumping them in a public discussion forum suggests that you should expect others will have a different reaction than yours, right?

They are more comprehensive than your bullshit Israeli talking points.

 

[Shusha]

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You can answer your own question. There are only three possibilities:

1. ALL peoples have an inherent, inviolable right to self-determination and government and sovereignty in their homeland.

2. NO peoples have rights to self-determination, government and sovereignty.

3. Rights to self-determination, government and sovereignty for any peoples are conditional and the objective conditions are: (provide list).


The PROBLEM with you is that you consistently argue #1 but except the Jewish people.

 

[Hollie]

Women judges in Islamic courts break glass ceiling

Why is this news? Because they are not being beheaded for getting an education?

My take-away was that women "judges" enforcing sharia law gives credibility to 50 year old men taking 12 year old brides.

Off topic.

Not so. You’re just incensed that another of your silly YouTube propaganda videos was the subject of comment and critique.

You do understand that your endless cutting and pasting of YouTube videos and dumping them in a public discussion forum suggests that you should expect others will have a different reaction than yours, right?

They are more comprehensive than your bullshit Israeli talking points.

Sorry, Chuckles, but your silly, Pallywood Studio YouTube videos are intended for a gullible audience you choose to be.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You can answer your own question. There are only three possibilities:

1. ALL peoples have an inherent, inviolable right to self-determination and government and sovereignty in their homeland.

2. NO peoples have rights to self-determination, government and sovereignty.

3. Rights to self-determination, government and sovereignty for any peoples are conditional and the objective conditions are: (provide list).


The PROBLEM with you is that you consistently argue #1 but except the Jewish people.

You are confused as to what constitutes a people. Peoples are different nationalities. That is a territorial designation. The French, the British, and Canadians are nationalities because their homes are in the defined territories of France, Britain, and Canada.

Religious groups are not peoples because they can, and are, comprised of different nationalities. They have no common defined territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why is this news? Because they are not being beheaded for getting an education?

My take-away was that women "judges" enforcing sharia law gives credibility to 50 year old men taking 12 year old brides.

Off topic.

Not so. You’re just incensed that another of your silly YouTube propaganda videos was the subject of comment and critique.

You do understand that your endless cutting and pasting of YouTube videos and dumping them in a public discussion forum suggests that you should expect others will have a different reaction than yours, right?

They are more comprehensive than your bullshit Israeli talking points.

Sorry, Chuckles, but your silly, Pallywood Studio YouTube videos are intended for a gullible audience you choose to be.

I post them for people who want to learn something. If that is not you...well...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Justice and only Justice--Dr. Sara Roy: Dispossessing Palestine

 

[USAF 2023]

Leave it to Tinmore to call the actions of Hamas and other Palestinians “ nonviolent “

Who got hurt?

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You’re right. The U.N. Vote ( which I have posted before) on the establishment of the Israeli State doesn’t matter.
I understand because what the U.N. “ thinks”
Now doesn’t matter to Israel .Everytime you post you just verify that the Palestinians are not interested in “ peace” or the “ Two State Solution”

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who got hurt?

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You’re right. The U.N. Vote ( which I have posted before) on the establishment of the Israeli State doesn’t matter.
I understand because what the U.N. “ thinks”
Now doesn’t matter to Israel .Everytime you post you just verify that the Palestinians are not interested in “ peace” or the “ Two State Solution”

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

 

[Shusha]

You are confused as to what constitutes a people. Peoples are different nationalities. That is a territorial designation. The French, the British, and Canadians are nationalities because their homes are in the defined territories of France, Britain, and Canada.

Religious groups are not peoples because they can, and are, comprised of different nationalities. They have no common defined territory.

To argue that the Jewish people have "no common defined territory" is patently ridiculous. The historical relationship between the Jewish people and the specific territory where they had their genesis and developed into a people and continue to be present is absolutely undeniable.

You continue to argue that the Jewish people are not a people, are not a nationality, are not whatever....in order to deliberately exclude them from whatever rights you want to assign to other peoples. In other words, you specifically construct your individual arguments in such a way as to exclude the Jewish people, but when your arguments are seen as a whole the hypocrisy becomes obvious.

A nationality is the formalization of a group of people with enough common interests to build self-governing institutions and which has the ability to enter into relationships with other formalized national groups, including the ability to establish boundaries where your group's influence ends and another group's influence begins. 'Israeli' is clearly a nationality. It is absolutely impossible to reasonably argue against the reality of that statement. Israel is as real a nationality as is French or British or Canadian. There must not be a question about existing nationalities -- or more specifically about the destruction of existing nationalities -- it must be unconditionally off the table that it is a "right" to destroy an existing nation against their will.

The question, then, concerns emerging nations and whether ethnic or cultural groups have rights without a formalized nationality (yet). According to prevailing current international law, and your own arguments for the Arab Palestinians, peoples DO have an inherent and inviolable right to self-determination, self-government and sovereignty over some territory that is relevant to that group's history. You keep wanting to exclude the Jewish people from those rights. And yet there is no objective measure for excluding the Jewish people from those rights.

The argument that they are "just" a religious group is nothing more than excuse to exclude them. There is no objective criteria for an "ethnic and cultural group" which would exclude the Jewish people.

 

[Shusha]

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Well, easier to name those few nations in the world not affected by inward migration or are so openly xenophobic as to restrict it. Japan. Korea. Greenland. Maybe Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland. Maybe some isolated island nations. Literally every other nation on the planet has dealt with some sort of inward migration.

But, that aside, let's ask that question -- why would the Jewish people agree to give half (actually more than) of their country to settler invader/colonizers? And why do you expect the answer to be different?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Well, easier to name those few nations in the world not affected by inward migration or are so openly xenophobic as to restrict it. Japan. Korea. Greenland. Maybe Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland. Maybe some isolated island nations. Literally every other nation on the planet has dealt with some sort of inward migration.

But, that aside, let's ask that question -- why would the Jewish people agree to give half (actually more than) of their country to settler invader/colonizers? And why do you expect the answer to be different?

You keep saying that there is a Jewish nation when there in no evidence that most of them have ancestral relation to that land.

 

[Shusha]

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Well, easier to name those few nations in the world not affected by inward migration or are so openly xenophobic as to restrict it. Japan. Korea. Greenland. Maybe Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland. Maybe some isolated island nations. Literally every other nation on the planet has dealt with some sort of inward migration.

But, that aside, let's ask that question -- why would the Jewish people agree to give half (actually more than) of their country to settler invader/colonizers? And why do you expect the answer to be different?

You keep saying that there is a Jewish nation when there in no evidence that most of them have ancestral relation to that land.

Oh give me a break. What is the objective measure of whether a peoples has a historical connection to a territory or place?

 

[Hollie]

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You’re right. The U.N. Vote ( which I have posted before) on the establishment of the Israeli State doesn’t matter.
I understand because what the U.N. “ thinks”
Now doesn’t matter to Israel .Everytime you post you just verify that the Palestinians are not interested in “ peace” or the “ Two State Solution”

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Indeed, you are again imagining that some “country of Pal’Istan” ever existed.

Indeed, the alternate reality you dwell in which includes invented historical (or is it “hysterical”, circumstances), is truly a dark place.

 

[USAF 2023]

Who initiated the Violence’? To call it “ Nonviolent “ is absolutely hysterical. !!!!!

Israel did in 1948.

YAWN.... Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist. This debunks your “ claim” that there could have been a “ Two State Solution” but Israel blew that chance. Norman Finklestein is showing “ outrage” because of what “ happened” in 1948?? Every time you post you put your foot in your mouth Calling the Palestinian protest “ peaceful”? Better start taking those Meds

Here we go again; The fact that Israel has no right to exist.

Where does it say that it does?

You’re right. The U.N. Vote ( which I have posted before) on the establishment of the Israeli State doesn’t matter.
I understand because what the U.N. “ thinks”
Now doesn’t matter to Israel .Everytime you post you just verify that the Palestinians are not interested in “ peace” or the “ Two State Solution”

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Anyway, thank you for verifying that the Palestinians are not interested in the “ Two State Solution “ or why they believe they are entitled to any land within the “ borders” they keep referring to .

 

[USAF 2023]

Indeed, what other people in the world would agree to give half of their country to settlers?

Give me some names.

Well, easier to name those few nations in the world not affected by inward migration or are so openly xenophobic as to restrict it. Japan. Korea. Greenland. Maybe Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland. Maybe some isolated island nations. Literally every other nation on the planet has dealt with some sort of inward migration.

But, that aside, let's ask that question -- why would the Jewish people agree to give half (actually more than) of their country to settler invader/colonizers? And why do you expect the answer to be different?

You keep saying that there is a Jewish nation when there in no evidence that most of them have ancestral relation to that land.

Thank you for verifying that you believe the Jewish people have no right to the Western Wall, Mount Olive, or any of the other Jewish Holy Sites. . One of the reasons why there will never be a “ Palestinian State”

 

[P F Tinmore]

London Protests Israel Funded Seret 2018 Film Festival - Free Palestinian Poet Dareen Tatour