Palestine Today

[Hollie]

Yes. Why would a Palestine be any different than Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, etc.?

Or any of the other countries we bombed the crap out of.

What you’re dancing around is the fact that Islamist backwaters have a common, unique characteristic that defines the retrogression so common to each and every one.

Take a guess what characteristic they share in common.

Keep dancing.

This is fun.

Your usual retreat to cut and paste cartoons gives no one confidence that you’re able to defend an argument.

I am suppose to argue a deflection?

You don’t argue anything. You cut and paste cartoons.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

What MLK’s ‘Letter from Birmingham Jail’ tells us about Ahed Tamimi in a cold Israeli cell

What MLK’s ‘Letter from Birmingham Jail’ tells us about Ahed Tamimi in a cold Israeli cell

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

 

[Hollie]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

 

[Hollie]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

You can flail your Poms Poms all you wish as you urge children to commit assault and battery. Obviously, they will face the consequences you will not.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

You can flail your Poms Poms all you wish as you urge children to commit assault and battery. Obviously, they will face the consequences you will not.

Good point. Tinmore has always been against compromise, which he calls "surrender." He would rather Palestinians live in "refugee camps" and make all kinds of mayhem and trouble, instead of building normal lives. They face the consequences and he does not. Yet this armchair warrior's heart bleeds for the Palestinians.

 

[Hollie]

Thank you, President Trump.

I hope this is a watershed moment in time when the US (and others), decide to hold the Arab-Moslem welfare cheats accountable. My wish would have been for an unequivocal statement of intent by cutting off a source of funding for welfare fraud that enables islamic terrorists.

Lets hope this is just a first step.



US withholds $65 mn from UN agency for Palestinians
US withholds $65 mn from UN agency for Palestinians | Daily Mail Online

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

This has to do with the civility of the Arab Palestinians and the level to which they will carry-out their individual activist agenda. In this case, someone has taught Ahed Tamimi that to engage in a physical confrontation with Israeli Security is an acceptable manner to express negative discourse.

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

(COMMENT)

Contrary to popular pro-Palestinian belief, that there is no Applicability of Protections for Civilian Persons within the Occupied Palestinian Territory (oPt), including East Jerusalem, and the other occupied Arab territories (A/RES/68/81 • and • A/RES/67/119); nothing could be farther from the actual truth.

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

(COMMENT)

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

You can flail your Poms Poms all you wish as you urge children to commit assault and battery. Obviously, they will face the consequences you will not.

Good point. Tinmore has always been against compromise, which he calls "surrender." He would rather Palestinians live in "refugee camps" and make all kinds of mayhem and trouble, instead of building normal lives. They face the consequences and he does not. Yet this armchair warrior's heart bleeds for the Palestinians.

Israel's goal has always been all of Palestine without the Palestinians. They have never compromised on that goal.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In this case, someone has taught Ahed Tamimi that to engage in a physical confrontation with Israeli Security is an acceptable manner to express negative discourse.

Naw, it is the assholes in Israel who teach that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

 

[Hollie]

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi

Israeli authorities must release a 16-year-old Palestinian activist who could face up to 10 years in prison over an altercation with Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank last month, Amnesty International said as she appeared in court today.

Ahed Tamimi will go before Ofer military court in the occupied West Bank accused of aggravated assault and 11 other charges after a video showing her shoving, slapping and kicking two Israeli soldiers in her home village of Nabi Saleh on December 15 went viral on Facebook.

“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Israel must release teenage Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi – Amnesty International USA

Why should her assault and battery be excused? Is this another entitlement you believe should be extended for Islamic provocations?

Assault? You are a hoot. The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

You can flail your Poms Poms all you wish as you urge children to commit assault and battery. Obviously, they will face the consequences you will not.

Good point. Tinmore has always been against compromise, which he calls "surrender." He would rather Palestinians live in "refugee camps" and make all kinds of mayhem and trouble, instead of building normal lives. They face the consequences and he does not. Yet this armchair warrior's heart bleeds for the Palestinians.

Israel's goal has always been all of Palestine without the Palestinians. They have never compromised on that goal.

Is it ignorance or fraud that causes you to make such a demonstrably false comment?

Israel has a demonstrated history of returning land in exchange for peace.The State of Israel has returned and withdrawn from captured territory greater than the size of Israel itself--Sinai, Egyptian land west of the Nile, land east of the Golan, southern Lebanon, Gaza, etc.

 

[Hollie]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has a demonstrated history of returning land in exchange for peace.

What has Israel ever returned to the Palestinians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

Israel "defends itself" by military attacks on Palestinian civilians?

Sounds like a bullshit Israeli talking point.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This comment doesn't even pass the smell test.

Nov 17, 2016 · smell test (plural smell tests) (idiomatic) An informal method for determining whether something is authentic, credible, or ethical, by using one's common sense or sense of propriety. 1994, Todd Purdum, "New Yorkers in Congress at War With a Lawyer," New York Times, 6 May.​

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.
It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

(COMMENT)

Do you really believe this?

You are one of the prime advocates in this discussion group for the use violence.

• A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978 •

2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle; ...​

• A/RES/3246 (XXIX) of 29 November 1974 •

3. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples’ struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle; …​

What you often forget to tell people is: These two non-binding resolutions are not law; and thus, when in conflict with the UN Charter or other Treaties, Covenants and International Agreements between states, these UN Charter or other Treaties, Covenants and International Agreements between states take precedence. One such overriding agreement is the Fourth Geneva Convention, and Article 68 which allows for the punishment of:

• Palestinians committing an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power,
• Palestinians committing an offense which constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration,
• Palestinians which present a grave collective danger, seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them,
• Palestinians found to be guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons, may face capital punishment.​

You are incorrect when you imply that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are free to openly attack Israeli Security.

You have to be mentally deficient not to instinctively know that there will be consequences for open attacks (such as those above); sometimes grave consequences. There is no member of the Arab League that would permit what Ahed Tamimi did and let her get away with it.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

Israel "defends itself" by military attacks on Palestinian civilians?

Sounds like a bullshit Israeli talking point.

Israel defends itself from Islamic terrorist attacks. It sounds like you want an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism without consequence.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

All people have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.