Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

Israel "defends itself" by military attacks on Palestinian civilians?

Sounds like a bullshit Israeli talking point.

Israel defends itself from Islamic terrorist attacks. It sounds like you want an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism without consequence.

You can't defend yourself when you are invading someone else's territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The allegation here is → once again → totally absurd; bordering on childish view of the regional security condition.

There is no excuse for the use of violence. The Arab Palestinians have only the right to to peaceful protest.

Only to have the assholes in Israel attack them.

It has always been Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Nonsense. You presume an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism and then whine like a petulant child when Israel responds in self-defense.

All people have the right to defend themselves from invading foreign troops.

(COMMENT)

The "invading foreign troops" concept has long since lapsed. The "effective control" of the West Bank has been established and recognized by the international community for a half century. There is no on-going invasion. That contest, both militarily and politically, is well over.

What we have today is the accumulated political residue of failed Arab attempts to subdue the State of Israel. Failing to accomplish the annihilation of the Jewish National Home. The Hostile Arab Palestinians have mounted various campaigns modeled after Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters formed to operate in a series of (again) failed attempts at the premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant Israeli citizen targets by these very same sub-national groups. The intention of these sub-national groups is to:

• Use force and violence against the Israeli citizenry in the effort to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of Arab Palestinian political or social objectives.

• Use a psychological form of attack → achieved by attempting to panic Israeli civilians.​

This has absolutely nothing to do with defending against invaders. Israeli effective control was established over top of the Jordanian occupation even before the PLO declared independence in 1988.

Each time the Arab Palestinians attempt some campaign against Israel, the Arab Palestinians lose something, be that freedom due to the necessity to establish more Article 43 HR Security systems improvements or actions, territory through Arab Palestinian agreements on Area "C" controls, or the development in the economic conditions. As long as the Arab Palestinians maintain these various hostile postures → so will it be that the environment they seek through self-determination (the path they have chosen for themselves) the farther away those objectives and goal will become. Most peoples look for the "light at the end of the tunnel." Arab Palestinians intentionally avoid it, seeking violence rather than the good faith in the Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Palestinian Authority Honors Two Prisoners Serving Life Sentences For Kidnapping, Murder Of Israeli Soldier; Representative For PA President 'Abbas: 'The Two Prisoners Are A National Example'

Palestinian Authority Honors Two Prisoners Serving Life Sentences For Kidnapping, Murder Of Israeli Soldier; Representative For PA President 'Abbas: 'The Two Prisoners Are A National Example'

On January 14, 2018, the Palestinian Authority (PA) Prisoners Affairs Authority, in conjunction with the governor of the Ramallah district and the Palestinian Prisoners Club, held an event in Ramallah to mark the 36th year of imprisonment of two Israeli-Arab terrorists – Kareem Younis, aka "The Eldest of Prisoners," and his cousin Maher Younis – serving life sentences in Israel for the 1980 kidnapping and murder of Israeli soldier Avraham Bromberg. During the event, senior Fatah officials heaped praise on the two, describing them as "national examples of steadfastness" and "one of the symbols of the Palestinian struggle."

 

[P F Tinmore]

What we have today is the accumulated political residue of failed Arab attempts to subdue the State of Israel.

What we have today is Israel continuing to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the rest of the Palestinians. The Palestinians are fighting back with what little they have.

 

[RoccoR]

Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh, come off it. You act as if that was not the intention of the Arab Palestinians.

What we have today is the accumulated political residue of failed Arab attempts to subdue the State of Israel.

What we have today is Israel continuing to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the rest of the Palestinians. The Palestinians are fighting back with what little they have.

(COMMENT)

This is the protodiplomacy for what was to become the de facto mantra:

A/AC.21/10 → 16 February 1948 (Before the Creation of the Jewish State)
• 10. The Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to reaffirm here that the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom. They consider that imposing international alien immigrants on their country by force is nothing but an act of aggression and invasion, whether made by Jews themselves, through Great Britain, or by the United Nations. The Arab Higher Committee Delegation therefore expects that the duty of the United Nations is to remove the said aggression and stop that invasion. The creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country, violating its integrity, subjecting its land and people to foreign Jewish domination. “

S/775 → 24 May 1948 (Nine Days After Independence)
• Question (F) Have Jewish forces penetrated into the territory in which you claim to have authority?

Answer: Arabs claim to have authority over all the area of Palestine as being the political representative of the overwhelming majority of the population. They regard Palestine a one unit. All forces that oppose majority wherever they may be are regarded as unlawful.​

• The evolution of the Arab Palestinian illusion has been stated in many different ways over the last the last century:

ψ Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.

ψ Palestine from the river to the sea, and from north to south, is a land of the Palestinian people and its homeland and its legitimate right, we may not a waiver an inch or any part thereof, no matter what the reasons and circumstances and pressures.

ψ Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day.

ψ No recognition of the legitimacy of the occupation whatever; this is a principled position, political and moral, and therefore do not recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and recognition of "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine no matter how long; nand it will not be long, God willing.

ψ It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned.

ψ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by the armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aiming at the liquidation of the Palestinian problem, or its internationalization.

ψ The demand of security and peace, as well as the demand of right and justice, require all states to consider Zionism an illegitimate movement, to outlaw its existence, and to ban its operations, in order that friendly relations among peoples may be preserved, and the loyalty of citizens to their respective homelands safeguarded.
​

Many things can be said of Israel and its policies. Since the time of the Balfour Declaration the leadership that has culminated into the modern and contemporary has evolved quickly and adapting to new changes in the political scene. And with these changes, and adaptation to meet the new challenges, Israel has developed well beyond that surrounding neighbors; in fact well beyond any of the members of the Arab League. While Israel (19th) may place slightly below the development of the United Kingdom (16th), Japan (17th), and the Republic of Korea (18th) → it may interest you to note that it was rated above any Middle Eastern country you can name.

∑ If anyone is going to throw stones, then it should be those nations, in the immediate surrounding region and North Africa, that have shown the best human development for their people and the nation as a whole. It should not model itself after Middle Eastern and North African nations that have no significant improvement in their position (least of all the Arab Palestinians). You follow the successful.

"Here's everything I know about war:
Somebody wins,
somebody loses,
and
nothing is ever the same again.
• Except that the Palestinians are still fighting;
over what → we can't even remember. •"

Admiral Constanza Stark,
CY 9784
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

A/AC.21/10 → 16 February 1948 (Before the Creation of the Jewish State)

• 10. The Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to reaffirm here that the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom. They consider that imposing international alien immigrants on their country by force is nothing but an act of aggression and invasion, whether made by Jews themselves, through Great Britain, or by the United Nations. The Arab Higher Committee Delegation therefore expects that the duty of the United Nations is to remove the said aggression and stop that invasion. The creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country, violating its integrity, subjecting its land and people to foreign Jewish domination. “

The UN abandoned the partition plan and the Security Council did not Implement it. The US was recommending a UN trusteeship when Israel unilaterally took over Palestine by military force.

 

[Shusha]

What we have today is the accumulated political residue of failed Arab attempts to subdue the State of Israel.

What we have today is Israel continuing to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the rest of the Palestinians. The Palestinians are fighting back with what little they have.

Yes. This is the (faulty) narrative. You agree with Rocco, then, that the GOAL of the Arab Palestinians is to "subdue the State of Israel", despite the fact that, as you admit readily, they do not have the resources to accomplish that goal and, in fact, the goal is getting further and further away.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

 

[ForeverYoung436]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Yes, just like Israeli athletes can't compete in Arab or Muslim countries. Great role models for sportsmanship and toleration.

 

[P F Tinmore]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Yes, just like Israeli athletes can't compete in Arab or Muslim countries. Great role models for sportsmanship and toleration.

It is about moral values. A concept that escapes you.

 

[Shusha]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Hmmmm. She states that "Gal Gadot's support of the IDF's actions goes against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values.

According to the website:

MuslimGirl.net was launched from the bedroom of a high school girl that was fed up with the misleading misconceptions surrounding Islam — the way the news coverage and media outlets kept skewing the image of Muslims into a nasty one; the mistrust, racism, and flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed; the muting of young Muslim voices from mainstream society; and the resulting disillusionment that young Muslims suffer about their religion in the tornado of it all.

Here at MuslimGirl we like ... to bridge the gap between different religions through the spirit of sisterhood, and to host interfaith discussion to combat growing stereotypes within our society.


Seems to me that Amani is the one who working against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values. Where's the sisterhood? Specifically, where is the sisterhood about "mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of young ... voices?"

 

[P F Tinmore]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Hmmmm. She states that "Gal Gadot's support of the IDF's actions goes against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values.

According to the website:

MuslimGirl.net was launched from the bedroom of a high school girl that was fed up with the misleading misconceptions surrounding Islam — the way the news coverage and media outlets kept skewing the image of Muslims into a nasty one; the mistrust, racism, and flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed; the muting of young Muslim voices from mainstream society; and the resulting disillusionment that young Muslims suffer about their religion in the tornado of it all.

Here at MuslimGirl we like ... to bridge the gap between different religions through the spirit of sisterhood, and to host interfaith discussion to combat growing stereotypes within our society.


Seems to me that Amani is the one who working against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values. Where's the sisterhood? Specifically, where is the sisterhood about "mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of young ... voices?"

It is a protest against the IDF. Understandable for a Palestinian.

 

[Shusha]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Hmmmm. She states that "Gal Gadot's support of the IDF's actions goes against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values.

According to the website:

MuslimGirl.net was launched from the bedroom of a high school girl that was fed up with the misleading misconceptions surrounding Islam — the way the news coverage and media outlets kept skewing the image of Muslims into a nasty one; the mistrust, racism, and flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed; the muting of young Muslim voices from mainstream society; and the resulting disillusionment that young Muslims suffer about their religion in the tornado of it all.

Here at MuslimGirl we like ... to bridge the gap between different religions through the spirit of sisterhood, and to host interfaith discussion to combat growing stereotypes within our society.


Seems to me that Amani is the one who working against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values. Where's the sisterhood? Specifically, where is the sisterhood about "mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of young ... voices?"

It is a protest against the IDF. Understandable for a Palestinian.

How does protesting the IDF support the stated values of MuslimGirl.com of religious sisterhood and the reduction of mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of voices? I see this protest against Gal Gadot as being in direct contradiction to these stated values.

 

[P F Tinmore]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Hmmmm. She states that "Gal Gadot's support of the IDF's actions goes against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values.

According to the website:

MuslimGirl.net was launched from the bedroom of a high school girl that was fed up with the misleading misconceptions surrounding Islam — the way the news coverage and media outlets kept skewing the image of Muslims into a nasty one; the mistrust, racism, and flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed; the muting of young Muslim voices from mainstream society; and the resulting disillusionment that young Muslims suffer about their religion in the tornado of it all.

Here at MuslimGirl we like ... to bridge the gap between different religions through the spirit of sisterhood, and to host interfaith discussion to combat growing stereotypes within our society.


Seems to me that Amani is the one who working against MuslimGirl.com's morals and values. Where's the sisterhood? Specifically, where is the sisterhood about "mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of young ... voices?"

It is a protest against the IDF. Understandable for a Palestinian.

How does protesting the IDF support the stated values of MuslimGirl.com of religious sisterhood and the reduction of mistrust, racism, flat-out hatred that the inaccuracies flamed and the muting of voices? I see this protest against Gal Gadot as being in direct contradiction to these stated values.

I don't see where the support of a criminal organization falls within moral values.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

PLO endorses BDS, makes unprecedented call for sanctions

On Monday, the Central Council of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, officially announced its support for the BDS movement and called, for the first time, on the international community to “impose sanctions on Israel” to end its ongoing, grave violations of Palestinian rights as stipulated by international law.

This is the most explicit and official adoption of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement by the PLO.

PLO endorses BDS, makes unprecedented call for sanctions

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ali Abunimah - Palestine Solidarity Conference.

 

[Hollie]

MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh Won't Accept Revlon's Changemaker Award

When Revlon recently announced Wonder Woman's Gal Gadot as brand ambassador for its newest "Live Boldly" campaign, it emphasized her message of empowerment. To celebrate the initiative further, the beauty brand recently gave MuslimGirl's Amani Al-Khatahtbeh the Changemaker Award, in recognition of her inspirational advocacy for Muslim women. However, Amani took to social media to share her thoughts with her followers, as she explained why she had decided not to accept and why her values don't align with Gal's ambassadorship."I cannot accept this award from Revlon with Gal Gadot as the ambassador," Amani wrote in an Instagram. "Her vocal support of the Israeli Defense Forces' actions in Palestine goes against MuslimGirl.com’s morals and values. I can't, in good conscience, accept this award from the brand and celebrate Gal's ambassadorship after the IDF imprisoned a 16-year-old girl named Ahed Tamimi last month, an activist who is currently still incarcerated."

Revlon's Latest Award Is Causing Controversy on Social Media

Yes, just like Israeli athletes can't compete in Arab or Muslim countries. Great role models for sportsmanship and toleration.

It is about moral values. A concept that escapes you.

Yes, please lecture on the moral values of Islamic terrorism / Islamic fascism.