Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Any occupation of the West Bank could've ended in the years 2000 or 2008.

 

[USAF 2023]

The Palestinians just Love their Martyrs. Especially if they are Children.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"Ready...and ACTION! CUT! That'a wrap. Now get it to the editing room at Pallywood Productions."

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This picture used in the Anadolu Agency story, • 7 Palestinian children imprisoned for throwing stones story • by By Kaamil Ahmed:

It is such a good picture that used for Kurdistan Oppression Propaganda.

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(COMMENT)

Most people just propagate such messages → spreading and promoting their set idea of how the world should work.

In this particular story, the frame is about "boys" being punished. While the key points about the "boys" were probably true, the photo of the "girl" (with the rock) being faced down by the Police Officer in the rifle kneeling position looks strange. The pose with the left twisted arm, palm to the rear, body swiveled in a belly dance stance is rather interesting.

We don't know the provenance of the photo or even content; but, what we do know is that the photo was presented without a context.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This picture used in the Anadolu Agency story, • 7 Palestinian children imprisoned for throwing stones story • by By Kaamil Ahmed:

It is such a good picture that used for Kurdistan Oppression Propaganda.

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(COMMENT)

Most people just propagate such messages → spreading and promoting their set idea of how the world should work.

In this particular story, the frame is about "boys" being punished. While the key points about the "boys" were probably true, the photo of the "girl" (with the rock) being faced down by the Police Officer in the rifle kneeling position looks strange. The pose with the left twisted arm, palm to the rear, body swiveled in a belly dance stance is rather interesting.

We don't know the provenance of the photo or even content; but, what we do know is that the photo was presented without a context.

Most Respectfully,
R

The photo looks staged to me.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ilan Pappé is one of those political activists that doubles as an Academician. They have to sell books to maintain their income and event draw as a lecturer. In Ilan Pappé's case, it is all about the economic boycott against Israel and the promotion of anti-Israeli political impairment in favor of the Arab Palestinian.

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(COMMENT)

In each population set of professional academician, there are going to be a number of proponents that oppose national political and security concern. Dr Pappé is not only one of them, but he is in league with the like of Dr Noam Chomsky. Neither is concerned with the probable outcomes should the Arab Palestinians dominate the region and expose what is now Israel to the economic and developmental condition that only the best of the Arab Palestinian leadership could muster.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ilan Pappé is one of those political activists that doubles as an Academician. They have to sell books to maintain their income and event draw as a lecturer. In Ilan Pappé's case, it is all about the economic boycott against Israel and the promotion of anti-Israeli political impairment in favor of the Arab Palestinian.

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(COMMENT)

In each population set of professional academician, there are going to be a number of proponents that oppose national political and security concern. Dr Pappé is not only one of them, but he is in league with the like of Dr Noam Chomsky. Neither is concerned with the probable outcomes should the Arab Palestinians dominate the region and expose what is now Israel to the economic and developmental condition that only the best of the Arab Palestinian leadership could muster.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but would you care to critique any of the issues he brings forth?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Shusha]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ilan Pappé is one of those political activists that doubles as an Academician. They have to sell books to maintain their income and event draw as a lecturer. In Ilan Pappé's case, it is all about the economic boycott against Israel and the promotion of anti-Israeli political impairment in favor of the Arab Palestinian.

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(COMMENT)

In each population set of professional academician, there are going to be a number of proponents that oppose national political and security concern. Dr Pappé is not only one of them, but he is in league with the like of Dr Noam Chomsky. Neither is concerned with the probable outcomes should the Arab Palestinians dominate the region and expose what is now Israel to the economic and developmental condition that only the best of the Arab Palestinian leadership could muster.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but would you care to critique any of the issues he brings forth?

Bring it!

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Academicians like Ilan Pappé, who need to make new theories to publish (dissertation type material creation), often try to change the way in which we see the world. When Issac Newton wrote the "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" (AKA "Principia"), it was, as we say in government, close enough for government wrote, but not exactly correct. And while much of the world still uses Newtonian Mechcanics, in the end, we know that in the realm of the very very fast and the ultra quantum sizes, it does not work. In those cases, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity set in. And even today, we know that Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not totally correct. They simply don't link together.

Much of today's modern political activism, such as the explanation of "Classical Colonialism" and "Settler Colonialism Projects" are """ approximations """ of the reality. Ilan Pappé makes a new theory about the interpretation of contemporary history and then attempts to apply new versions to explain the action.

OK, but would you care to critique any of the issues he brings forth?

(COMMENT)

Ilan Pappé, makes a point of orbiting the presentation on:

Settler Colonialism by changing the definition to assume the new characteristic of not being sent a Colonial Empire. This is a very critical difference between true Colonialism previously defined in the post 1967 era.

A second major redefining is relative to the Exploitation of the (so-called) indigenous population versus the removal of the population (which is NOT a characteristic of Classical Colonialism).

The only way to make the concept of "colonialism" apply in the Arab Palestinian 'v' Israeli Conflict is to change the definition. Otherwise, the entire concept becomes bogus.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Academicians like Ilan Pappé, who need to make new theories to publish (dissertation type material creation), often try to change the way in which we see the world. When Issac Newton wrote the "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" (AKA "Principia"), it was, as we say in government, close enough for government wrote, but not exactly correct. And while much of the world still uses Newtonian Mechcanics, in the end, we know that in the realm of the very very fast and the ultra quantum sizes, it does not work. In those cases, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity set in. And even today, we know that Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not totally correct. They simply don't link together.

Much of today's modern political activism, such as the explanation of "Classical Colonialism" and "Settler Colonialism Projects" are """ approximations """ of the reality. Ilan Pappé makes a new theory about the interpretation of contemporary history and then attempts to apply new versions to explain the action.

OK, but would you care to critique any of the issues he brings forth?

(COMMENT)

Ilan Pappé, makes a point of orbiting the presentation on:

Settler Colonialism by changing the definition to assume the new characteristic of not being sent a Colonial Empire. This is a very critical difference between true Colonialism previously defined in the post 1967 era.

A second major redefining is relative to the Exploitation of the (so-called) indigenous population versus the removal of the population (which is NOT a characteristic of Classical Colonialism).

The only way to make the concept of "colonialism" apply in the Arab Palestinian 'v' Israeli Conflict is to change the definition. Otherwise, the entire concept becomes bogus.

Most Respectfully,
R

Settler colonialism and apartheid have been used to describe Israel since the middle of the 20th century. Occupation had been the term of choice all through the fake peace process. Now settler colonialism, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing are coming back into main stream discourse. Settler colonialism is a perfect match for Israel.

 

[rylah]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Academicians like Ilan Pappé, who need to make new theories to publish (dissertation type material creation), often try to change the way in which we see the world. When Issac Newton wrote the "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" (AKA "Principia"), it was, as we say in government, close enough for government wrote, but not exactly correct. And while much of the world still uses Newtonian Mechcanics, in the end, we know that in the realm of the very very fast and the ultra quantum sizes, it does not work. In those cases, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity set in. And even today, we know that Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not totally correct. They simply don't link together.

Much of today's modern political activism, such as the explanation of "Classical Colonialism" and "Settler Colonialism Projects" are """ approximations """ of the reality. Ilan Pappé makes a new theory about the interpretation of contemporary history and then attempts to apply new versions to explain the action.

OK, but would you care to critique any of the issues he brings forth?

(COMMENT)

Ilan Pappé, makes a point of orbiting the presentation on:

Settler Colonialism by changing the definition to assume the new characteristic of not being sent a Colonial Empire. This is a very critical difference between true Colonialism previously defined in the post 1967 era.

A second major redefining is relative to the Exploitation of the (so-called) indigenous population versus the removal of the population (which is NOT a characteristic of Classical Colonialism).

The only way to make the concept of "colonialism" apply in the Arab Palestinian 'v' Israeli Conflict is to change the definition. Otherwise, the entire concept becomes bogus.

Most Respectfully,
R

Settler colonialism and apartheid have been used to describe Israel since the middle of the 20th century. Occupation had been the term of choice all through the fake peace process. Now settler colonialism, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing are coming back into main stream discourse. Settler colonialism is a perfect match for Israel.

This is merely an appeal to numbers, people said the earth was flat - for how many years?
Relying on a logical fallacy aka "if a lie keeps repeated it must be true" - is hardly an argument.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

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[P F Tinmore]

A beautiful mosque in Gaza, Al Khalidi Mosque...