Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

Here you go tinhead.




Oh, and it comes.

Get what you came for.

Israeli troops attacking Palestinian civilians.

Same as always.

 

[Ropey]

Oh, we know what you want.

Come and get it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian family fleeing after an Israeli airstrike on a house in Gaza city, July 9, 2014.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Remembering the 2014 war. Five years ago, Israel launched an assault on the Gaza Strip that targeted homes, schools, hospitals and shelters, killing over 2,200 Palestinians.

 

[Shusha]

Lies. About 100 apartments were demolished, most under construction and empty.

This is the first time Israel has demolished homes in Area A. It is being done specifically for security reasons.

Now, you are free to suggest that Israel shouldn't be encroaching on Palestinian sovereignty in Area A, even for security reasons. (Though you would then have to admit that Palestine has sovereignty -- not occupied). That's not even a bad argument.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The is slanted. This is not telling the whole concept.

I would like to, once again, make the self verifiable observations that:

Remembering the 2014 war. Five years ago, Israel launched an assault on the Gaza Strip that targeted homes, schools, hospitals, and shelters, killing over 2,200 Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

◈ The disparity between the effective kill ratio is not for the lack of trying on the Hostile Arab Palestinian's (HoAP's) part. They would kill just as many Israelis, if not more, but for the lack of expertise, and the effectiveness of Israeli resolve.

◈ The HoAP intentionally increase the potential increase in the number of civilian casualties by violating Rules 23 and 24 of Customary and IHL. The intentionally put civilians in harm's way.

◈ There is no evidence, what so ever, that the Israelis target homes, schools, hospitals, and shelters, being used in nefarious ways by the HoAP.

◈ The HoAPcan reduce the civilian casualty rate to zero-IF they stop launching attacks against Israel. BUT they do not want to stop the pursuit in "Acts of War."


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The is slanted. This is not telling the whole concept.

I would like to, once again, make the self verifiable observations that:

Remembering the 2014 war. Five years ago, Israel launched an assault on the Gaza Strip that targeted homes, schools, hospitals, and shelters, killing over 2,200 Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

◈ The disparity between the effective kill ratio is not for the lack of trying on the Hostile Arab Palestinian's (HoAP's) part. They would kill just as many Israelis, if not more, but for the lack of expertise, and the effectiveness of Israeli resolve.

◈ The HoAP intentionally increase the potential increase in the number of civilian casualties by violating Rules 23 and 24 of Customary and IHL. The intentionally put civilians in harm's way.

◈ There is no evidence, what so ever, that the Israelis target homes, schools, hospitals, and shelters, being used in nefarious ways by the HoAP.

◈ The HoAPcan reduce the civilian casualty rate to zero-IF they stop launching attacks against Israel. BUT they do not want to stop the pursuit in "Acts of War."


Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestinians are defending themselves and you always call them hostile.

How colonial of you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Lies. About 100 apartments were demolished, most under construction and empty.

This is the first time Israel has demolished homes in Area A. It is being done specifically for security reasons.

Now, you are free to suggest that Israel shouldn't be encroaching on Palestinian sovereignty in Area A, even for security reasons. (Though you would then have to admit that Palestine has sovereignty -- not occupied). That's not even a bad argument.

Israel shouldn't be demolishing anything.

If it isn't theirs, they should keep their fucking hands off it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli settlers burn Palestinian-owned olive trees in Burin village, Nablus.

 

[P F Tinmore]

A youth soccer team holds its weekly practice on a playground in central Gaza City. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"If you live, live free or die like the trees, standing up." - Mahmoud Darwish, Palestinian poet.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH WOW! This is ridiculous...

The Palestinians are defending themselves and you always call them hostile.

How colonial of you.

(COMMENT)

How are the Arab Palestinians defending themselves when they are conducting hostile operations against the Israelis → either:

✧ On the border?

✧ Into the interrior of Israel?

✧ Or against Israelis in Area C?​

How is it that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) can put Israeli citizens at risk when the Israelis are put in danger on territory that is not now, and nor has never been, under the exclusive control of the Arab Palestinians?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

WOW, now does this picture look suspicious?

"If you live, live free or die like the trees, standing up." - Mahmoud Darwish, Palestinian poet.

(QUESTION)

Does anyone recognize this uniform?

v/r
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a mantra used loud and often by the Arab Palestinians.

Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.

(COMMENT)

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is NOT law.

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is an act of political addition. A + B = C.

※→ "refugees wishing to return to their homes" (A) + "live at peace with their neighbours" (B) = "should be permitted to do so (C)."

In order to be valid and sound, both "A" and "B" must be true. But in 1948, element "B" was not true.

(f) The determination of every Arab in Palestine is to oppose in every way the partition of that country.

(g) The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out — man, woman and child.

SOURCE: Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee • A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

"Martyr Dalal Mughrabi is a symbol of legitimate human struggle against injustice, oppression, and the occupation that has committed crimes against the Palestinian people throughout its 71 years. The use of Dalal's name in the summer camps of [Fatah's] Shabiba Student (sic., High School) Movement is nothing but commemoration of a situation of struggle, which has been waged by our Palestinian people that was uprooted from its land and homeland as a result of the crimes, oppression, and massacres that the Zionist gangs committed against it. Therefore, Dalal Mughrabi's [actions] are a natural human expression that all human laws guarantee for the oppressed peoples that are struggling to be redeemed from injustice and occupation."

SOURCE: Official Fatah Facebook page, July 16, 2019

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a mantra used loud and often by the Arab Palestinians.

Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.

(COMMENT)

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is NOT law.

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is an act of political addition. A + B = C.

※→ "refugees wishing to return to their homes" (A) + "live at peace with their neighbours" (B) = "should be permitted to do so (C)."

In order to be valid and sound, both "A" and "B" must be true. But in 1948, element "B" was not true.

(f) The determination of every Arab in Palestine is to oppose in every way the partition of that country.

(g) The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out — man, woman and child.

SOURCE: Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee • A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

"Martyr Dalal Mughrabi is a symbol of legitimate human struggle against injustice, oppression, and the occupation that has committed crimes against the Palestinian people throughout its 71 years. The use of Dalal's name in the summer camps of [Fatah's] Shabiba Student (sic., High School) Movement is nothing but commemoration of a situation of struggle, which has been waged by our Palestinian people that was uprooted from its land and homeland as a result of the crimes, oppression, and massacres that the Zionist gangs committed against it. Therefore, Dalal Mughrabi's [actions] are a natural human expression that all human laws guarantee for the oppressed peoples that are struggling to be redeemed from injustice and occupation."

SOURCE: Official Fatah Facebook page, July 16, 2019

Most Respectfully,
R

(g) The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out — man, woman and child.​

Indeed, they have always been opposed to illegal external interference.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a mantra used loud and often by the Arab Palestinians.

Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.

(COMMENT)

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is NOT law.

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is an act of political addition. A + B = C.

※→ "refugees wishing to return to their homes" (A) + "live at peace with their neighbours" (B) = "should be permitted to do so (C)."

In order to be valid and sound, both "A" and "B" must be true. But in 1948, element "B" was not true.

(f) The determination of every Arab in Palestine is to oppose in every way the partition of that country.

(g) The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out — man, woman and child.

SOURCE: Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee • A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

"Martyr Dalal Mughrabi is a symbol of legitimate human struggle against injustice, oppression, and the occupation that has committed crimes against the Palestinian people throughout its 71 years. The use of Dalal's name in the summer camps of [Fatah's] Shabiba Student (sic., High School) Movement is nothing but commemoration of a situation of struggle, which has been waged by our Palestinian people that was uprooted from its land and homeland as a result of the crimes, oppression, and massacres that the Zionist gangs committed against it. Therefore, Dalal Mughrabi's [actions] are a natural human expression that all human laws guarantee for the oppressed peoples that are struggling to be redeemed from injustice and occupation."

SOURCE: Official Fatah Facebook page, July 16, 2019

Most Respectfully,
R

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

They didn't need to. Palestine has international borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a mantra used loud and often by the Arab Palestinians.

Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.

(COMMENT)

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is NOT law.

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) is an act of political addition. A + B = C.

※→ "refugees wishing to return to their homes" (A) + "live at peace with their neighbours" (B) = "should be permitted to do so (C)."

In order to be valid and sound, both "A" and "B" must be true. But in 1948, element "B" was not true.

(f) The determination of every Arab in Palestine is to oppose in every way the partition of that country.

(g) The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out — man, woman and child.

SOURCE: Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee • A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

"Martyr Dalal Mughrabi is a symbol of legitimate human struggle against injustice, oppression, and the occupation that has committed crimes against the Palestinian people throughout its 71 years. The use of Dalal's name in the summer camps of [Fatah's] Shabiba Student (sic., High School) Movement is nothing but commemoration of a situation of struggle, which has been waged by our Palestinian people that was uprooted from its land and homeland as a result of the crimes, oppression, and massacres that the Zionist gangs committed against it. Therefore, Dalal Mughrabi's [actions] are a natural human expression that all human laws guarantee for the oppressed peoples that are struggling to be redeemed from injustice and occupation."

SOURCE: Official Fatah Facebook page, July 16, 2019

Most Respectfully,
R

※→ "refugees wishing to return to their homes" (A) + "live at peace with their neighbours" (B) = "should be permitted to do so (C)."

In order to be valid and sound, both "A" and "B" must be true. But in 1948, element "B" was not true.

How many Palestinians who returned to their homes did not live at peace with their neighbors?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again untrue.

✧ UN A/RES/194 (III) does NOT mention (even once) anything about "boundaries" - or - "borders."

They didn't need to. Palestine has international borders.

(COMMENT)

While the Government of Palestine established the boundaries to which the Order in Council and Mandate applied, those boundaries were not permanent. Nor where those lines a commitment to the Arab Palestinians.

And it is further the case that the Arab Palestinians were not the successors to the territory. And the Arab Palestinians have not had a functioning government over the territory in more than seven centuries (between the Warrior-Slaves and the Ottomans) (if not longer).

The Arab Palestinians may have had established individual civil property rights, but

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R