JStone
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The Palestinians are not remotely comparable to illegal immigrants. They were born in Israel (or in the West Bank/Gaza). At the very least, they were born in refugee camps from parents born in Israel/Palestine. They are not Iraqis.
West Bank and Gaza are forming their own country no? than why should they vote in Israeli elections?
They have been negotiating this for 18 years. During that time there was supposed to be no increase in settlements but the number of settlers has tripled. Even worse the US Congress applauded Netanyahu claiming the right to their land and since the UN vote despite his agreement with the Chancellor of Germany which made them not side with the French, Netanyahu has announced more building. From the link
The Palestinian prime minister harshly criticized the announcement of new construction in East Jerusalem. "It's actually Bethlehem," he said, adding that there can be no solution to the conflict "without recognizing East Jerusalem as the permanent capital of Palestine," he said.
Not only that settlers on their land are becoming more and more extremist
Fayyad added that the Israeli government must "rein in settler violence" and that "much more needs to be done against these acts of extremism and terrorism."
The situation has to be resolved. The people have been occupied for 44 years. The settlers take more and more of their land and they have no human rights.
If a viable state cannot be produced for them after 44 years and 18 years of negotiating then it is sensible to start thinking of getting a vote in one's life rather than look for something which is never going to happen.
That is the warning which the PIJ gave in their paper to the EU. Continued settlements will lead to a one state solution for making all of the people citizens. Can you not see that Israel cannot have her cake and eat it. A state for the Palestinians or a vote for the Palestinians is what it will eventually be. What other outcome can you see?
Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis...
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria
The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]
Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...
Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.
Tel Dan Stele Verifying King David Dynasty 3000 years ago
The Tel Dan Stela and the Kings of Aram and Israel
Judaea Capta Coins Minted By Romans against Jews 2000 years ago
Judaea Capta coinage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 years old.
Dead Sea Scrolls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel
In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press