Paris climate agreement: Wall Street & FTSE stocks hit RECORD high after Trump drops deal

[RightyTighty]

Here's a good one for the big dumbo, Bripat.

Long History Of U.S. Energy Subsidies | December 19, 2011 Issue - Vol. 89 Issue 51 | Chemical & Engineering News

This one is easier to read - the children here will like it better.

There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

I've already dealt with your horse manure, shit for brains.

And, the real truth gets posted but - Bripat runs away from it. As expected.

Take me on little injun.

I will make you cry again..

Why do you run from me?


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Run from you? I'm always the last to post (and I always win). Care to tell us all how that is "running"?

You care to rephrase that drunk injun?


You always run from me..

You think a great deal of yourself? What a shame. We'll, I've had my fun for now and am off to do something that actually matters. You showed up - too late.

 

[bripat9643]

It's not dogma. It's historical fact.

I don't want to give money to politicians so they can reward their friends. If a technology is economically viable, it doesn't need subsidies.

In your world we would still be dreaming that one day man would walk on the moon. (or your phone could tell you where on earth you are).

Do you know the Federal government spends so much on designing and building new weapons systems? Because anyone else who tried would fail. You don't need a stealth bomber to fly Grandma home for Christmas.

The fact that I reject your hysterical predictions of doom doesn't make me a Luddite. Traditionally, the luddites were the ones predicting doom. You have demonstrated in this very thread that you don't know the facts about energy subsidies, so why should anyone accept you as some kind of scientific expert on global warming?

I don't know the "facts". I posted the links to the history of US Energy Subsidies - exactly what you said (doesn't exist) and then you said, they exist but are bad. Now, if we can get you to they exist (and can be good or bad) life as we know it can go on (until the sun dies and takes the earth with it).

Yes, you posted links to your propaganda, and all they proved is that energy subsidies are a corrupt boondoggle. They didn't support your point. The fact that you didn't know that only shows what a complete dumbass you are. The oil industry didn't start getting subsidies until 50 years after it became a large flourishing industry. It didn't get them prior to that.

In short, the facts prove you wrong, but you're too much of a dumbass to know it.

Look, you need to know when you've lost. People were burning coal long before it was - an industry. And when oil became a big deal here - with cars, the Federal government jumped in. Solar has been around for ages but now it's an industry (one that China supports heavily) and the Feds should be supporting it like they do all other sources of energy.

The fact that you don't like that doesn't matter. Solar wasn't invented yesterday. Like oil it had been around but now (like then) it started to matter and the Federal government took action. That is the history and it fucks you right up the ass.

ROFL! You are fucking hilarious. You actually believe government subsidies were required to make people start using coal? Coal has been mined for hundreds of years. When did it become "an industry?" Apparently, your definition of an "industry" is any activity that receives government subsidies.

The federal government shouldn't be subsidizing any industry, moron. At best, that's just taking money out of one pocket and putting it into another. If an "industry" can't survive without subsidies, then it doesn't contribute to human welfare and it shouldn't exist. We don't have a perpetual motion machine industry because they contribute nothing to our welfare.

I've seen stupid before, but you take the cake.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I've already dealt with your horse manure, shit for brains.

And, the real truth gets posted but - Bripat runs away from it. As expected.

Take me on little injun.

I will make you cry again..

Why do you run from me?


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Run from you? I'm always the last to post (and I always win). Care to tell us all how that is "running"?

You care to rephrase that drunk injun?


You always run from me..

You think a great deal of yourself? What a shame. We'll, I've had my fun for now and am off to do something that actually matters. You showed up - too late.

Translation~.. I beat your ass punk..now play with mercury.

 

[Wyatt earp]

And, the real truth gets posted but - Bripat runs away from it. As expected.

Take me on little injun.

I will make you cry again..

Why do you run from me?


View attachment 130617


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Run from you? I'm always the last to post (and I always win). Care to tell us all how that is "running"?

You care to rephrase that drunk injun?


You always run from me..

You think a great deal of yourself? What a shame. We'll, I've had my fun for now and am off to do something that actually matters. You showed up - too late.

Translation~.. I beat your ass punk..now play with mercury.

Your running again , you thought you could take us on..

Lmfao.

 

[Markle]

Isn't that great?

Now you can sit back and clip coupons and make lots of money...

While your grandkids are suffocating on the slice-able Brown Air that you (and those who think like you) forced upon those most unfortunate innocents...

Win-Win, eh?

IF you're serious, please show us specifically how the U.S. backing out of the phony Paris will result in your doomsday forecast.

Go for it!

 

[WEATHER53]

The libs liked the paris mistake as it handcuffed, punished and costs the USA

 

[Markle]

Ethanol subsidies were created at the request of environmentalists, moron. Ethanol is an environmental disaster. Yet, they can't be defeated in Congress.

Americans love their corn. And hey, just look at that, you found (yet another) industry that the Federal government subsidies. Good for you.

Yes, I found another example of corrupt collusion between politicians and industry fat cats. That's what you're promoting, dumbshit.

Ah, no. And since your "We never paid up for that" argument is dead as a door nail you might want to move along onto another debate topic (that you will also lose),.

Meaning I nailed your ass to the wall, and now you want to take your ball and go home.

Dude, get a reality. It's US history. You aren't going to win by denying it.

This is 2017.

 

[oreo]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy. We have now joined Syria & Nicaragua the ONLY TWO countries in the world that didn't sign onto the VOLUNTARY Paris accord.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost
Navy Deploys ‘Great Green Fleet’

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

And all along I thought it was you dumbass's that wanted to get away from foreign oil?

 

[Markle]

Solar has been around for ages but now it's an industry (one that China supports heavily) and the Feds should be supporting it like they do all other sources of energy.

WOW! Who knew? Solar has been around for ages. REALLY?

China learned from us that the path to great economic growth requires cheap, plentiful energy. They are building every type of energy producing vehicle possible. China is building one highly sophisticated, ultra-clean COAL plant per month. They also have more nuclear power plants under construction and in the planning stage than the rest of the world combined.

India and hundreds of millions in the rest of undeveloped areas of the world still rely on cooking and heating with animal dung. Recipe: Gather lots of cow patties. Mix dung with water and hay. When well mixed, lay out in the sun to dry. When thoroughly dry, place in the stove, ignite and cook dinner!

Yep, my car burning alcohol for fuel is going to change that in a heartbeat!

 

[Markle]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

Of all your pie in the sky photos, which one is being halted because we pulled out of a nonsense agreement?

 

[oreo]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

Of all your pie in the sky photos, which one is being halted because we pulled out of a nonsense agreement?

What I am saying DUMBASS is Trump just handed over this entire green energy--(the most explosive industry on this planet today)--to CHINA--while you're screaming for new job growth in this country.

 

[bripat9643]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy. We have now joined Syria & Nicaragua the ONLY TWO countries in the world that didn't sign onto the VOLUNTARY Paris accord.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost
Navy Deploys ‘Great Green Fleet’

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

And all along I thought it was you dumbass's that wanted to get away from foreign oil?

Being party to the agreement does not prevent the US from flushing good money down the green energy toilet.

 

[bripat9643]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

Of all your pie in the sky photos, which one is being halted because we pulled out of a nonsense agreement?

What I am saying DUMBASS is Trump just handed over this entire green energy--(the most explosive industry on this planet today)--to CHINA--while you're screaming for new job growth in this country.

Economists estimate that every green energy job in Spain cost the government $800,000. China can have the green energy industry.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Energy companies can retrofit if they want. Nothing is going to stop them. Solar panels will still be made and installed. Any green efficiency that companies wanted to make before the Paris Accord was affected they can still do. The mandated regulations and benchmarks won't be met and we won't be sending that billion dollars a year to the green fund. All good things.

The best thing about running around screaming its the end of the world, we're all gonna DIE is that it won't happen. Once people go about their lives and things are easier for them if the world doesn't end, those people don't want to hear your crap any more.

Exactly... These leftys can't handle it.
That Trump told the world to fuck off..

.

What the Ass Clown did was hand over the entire green energy industry to China. It's the equivalent of telling Steve Jobs & Bill Gates to move to China because he wanted to save typewriting jobs in this country. The only thing this was good for was a coal mining job. Cry me a river over that one. While he screwed everyone else with an elephants dick.

This is China today--this is who we we're competing with for this industry.

This is not a JOB PRODUCER--it's a JOB KILLER. Do you have any idea how many companies in this country are green energy related? All the way from High technology--to General Electric, to Exon/Moblie--Conoco etc. etc. etc. that told the dumb fuck not to exit the Paris accord--that was a voluntary agreement between 195 countries to move to green energy.
Paris climate accord: Big business urges Trump to stick with it
Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement
Exxon, Conoco back Paris climate deal as Donald Trump weighs exit

Even the U.S military was moving into green energy.

By Air, Land and Sea, the Military is Going Green to Save Lives and Money | HuffPost

Sweet baby Jesus you people are just as stupid as he is.

Of all your pie in the sky photos, which one is being halted because we pulled out of a nonsense agreement?

What I am saying DUMBASS is Trump just handed over this entire green energy--(the most explosive industry on this planet today)--to CHINA--while you're screaming for new job growth in this country.

Once again China took over the solar panel industry years ago..


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[bripat9643]

This entire thread is one big "Replace whale oil in lamps? Never happen. Only whale oil will give us the light we need".

I'm off to the blacksmith on old Paint, Ma. Back in two days.

When did the government subsidize the drilling of oil?

And that matters why, exactly? NASA? Nah, let them send a man to the moon only if it makes a profit (next quarter).

"As of July 2014, Oil Change International estimates United States fossil fuel subsidies at $37.5 billion annually, including $21 billion in production and exploration subsidies. Other credible estimates of annual United States fossil fuel subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually – yet none of these include costs borne by taxpayers related to the climate, local environmental, and health impacts of the fossil fuel industry. "
Fossil Fuel Subsidies & Finance - Oil Change International

And have you heard of - Ethanol?

"Since its creation of the domestic market for corn ethanol after the energy crisis of the 1970s, the federal government has nurtured and maintained the ethanol industry with a steady stream of subsidies.

Originally sold as a way to achieve energy independence and reduce greenhouse gas emissions, ethanol has been a favorite of many lawmakers: ethanol producers have received favorable treatment under the tax code, tariff protection from foreign competition, and even a government mandate for its use. As a result, taxpayers have spent billions of dollars over the last 30 years subsidizing the production of corn ethanol, while at the same time creating unintended costs for consumers and the environment."
Federal Subsidies for Corn Ethanol and Other Corn-Based Biofuels | Taxpayers for Common Sense

But no, no, no,. we can't subsidies Solar or Wind (or anything else that doesn't pollute the environment - that would be wrong).

Of course, we know you're posting leftist propaganda. Genuine subsidies are nowhere near what your article claims. Furthermore, you're talking about subsidies now, not subsidies to get the industry going. it received none. In fact, almost no American industries received subsidies of any kind to get started. If the consumers want something, no subsidies are required because they will pay whatever it takes to get it.

Ethanol is a scam perpetrated by environmental wackos like you, so I fail to understand what it has to do with subsidies to the oil business. Yes, it requires subsidies, because no one would buy it otherwise. That's the whole point. The entire "green energy" industry would collapse tomorrow without government subsidies.

I've responded to this bullshit argument at least 1000 times, and it never changes. Turds like you never learn anything. You keep posting the same lies over and over.

Bripat's version of "no government subsidies" for oil and gas.
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You're an imbecile. The oil industry was already gigantic in 1916. Rockefeller was already a billionaire by then. Furthermore, writing off dry holes is not a subsidy. Dry holes are a business expense. Why shouldn't oil companies be able to deduct that from their income. They spent the money, didn't they?

So what you're doing here is ignoring the fact that the oil industry was already quite mature by 1926 and pretending that legitimate business expenses are subsidies.

You're a sleazy lying douche bag, in other words, or maybe your just profoundly stupid. It really doesn't matter which.

 

[bripat9643]

When did the government subsidize the drilling of oil?

And that matters why, exactly? NASA? Nah, let them send a man to the moon only if it makes a profit (next quarter).

"As of July 2014, Oil Change International estimates United States fossil fuel subsidies at $37.5 billion annually, including $21 billion in production and exploration subsidies. Other credible estimates of annual United States fossil fuel subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually – yet none of these include costs borne by taxpayers related to the climate, local environmental, and health impacts of the fossil fuel industry. "
Fossil Fuel Subsidies & Finance - Oil Change International

And have you heard of - Ethanol?

Your a child why are we using food for energy?

Why are you using food (not food waste) for energy when you can get it free from that big yellow thing in the sky? Search me - you people are fucking stupid and like the pay the power companies I guess.

Your ilk is the kind who support Ethanol subsidies.

Ah, no. That's going nowhere. And I don't support them for oil and gas either.

Environmental wackos like you are the reason we have Ethanol subsidies, moron, and you support subsidies for so-called "green energy," which are the slightest bit better.

 

[bripat9643]

hedge fund mgrs were buying blocks of enviro stocks and SHORTING them.

What's your point?

that you are an idiot and your dumbass question proves it.

But you can't explain why, obviously.

 

[bripat9643]

Yup..



The president faced a backlash after confirming that he would reverse his Barack Obama's decision to join the pact to cut emissions.

But stock markets appeared to brush off the news.

The S&P yesterday hit a fresh record highs, while the Dow Jones surged by 0.65 per cent.

Today Britain's FTSE 100 followed the lead to reach to new top levels of 7,598.

US stock markets were helped by a fresh round of positive economic data, with the latest jobs numbers coming in far higher than expected.

So you think a temporary positive economic surge is worth the potential inevitable end of the planet?
You would.
In that that vein....
Trump is suspending production of penicillin to help bring back Bubonic Plague. Gravediggers CEO applauds jobs move.

There is no "potential end of the planet," and a bunch of globalist politicians aren't going to save it even if it was going to end.

Science illiterate.

NO, I'm just immune to bullshit and swindles.

 

[Markle]

What I am saying DUMBASS is Trump just handed over this entire green energy--(the most explosive industry on this planet today)--to CHINA--while you're screaming for new job growth in this country.

Haven't you read it?
I didn't think so.

Please explain how. A voluntary agreement, petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama entered into without the consent of the Congress, "volunteering" us to pay hundreds of billions over to India while our industries are hamstrung and the rest of the world LAUGHS.