Patience, Then Vindication: Trump's Immigration Order Will Stand...

[bripat9643]

Its not a Muslim ban, but only Muslims are banned,

We understand perfectly what it cam down the way it did: Leftwing judges are political hacks who don't give a damn about what the law actually says.

I will answer you Brummel, although you probably won't want to hear it----------->

1. Without a cabinet, Trump is on his own, thank you Dems.

2. I think they might have screwed the pooch on the order. That doesn't mean changing the wording so it passes, changes the outcome requested.

3. The 9th court is the most, or 2nd most over turned court in the United States. Once the 9th SCJ is put in, the left will be in deep trouble. Personally, I think Trump is going to get to name one more, and I hope it is Pryor. He is a flame thrower, and if you are going to be accosted when attempting to be nice, may as well not be nice!

4. Unless we are attacked while this order was to be in place, or someone got in..................this is just frosting on the illegal immigration cake coming very soon. Through this whole administration, the left and right are going to be at each others throats, because Trump is going to turn back lefty orthodoxy, and bureaucratic bullshit! The left can NOT have this happen, which is the biggest reason they are fighting Trump's cabinet picks.

5. Will Trump and America win? I hope so, but I doubt it! (I know, now you are pissed at me) Conservatives will have a hard time staying engaged throughout the fight, lefties will not. Reason is that lefties have Republicans supporting them with their tax dollars. Conservatives are getting their asses handed to them at work for the money to support themselves, their families, and the leftist lazy's. The leftist lazy's just show up, demand more wherever needed, then go have a latte!

6. The smart thing for conservatives would be FIND DEMOCRATS! No, not far leftists, but Democrats. We have all been able to work together for the country, and Democrats are NOT represented by far leftists. Recruit DEMOCRATS like Trump did, and the far left and right are done! And honestly, if you kick those people out, don't most of us reside in the middle? Make it all about regular Americans! Do not let either party push us towards specialty groups like LGBT, or far right wing mantras. Keep it as close to the middle as possible.

Personally Brummel, I think your side is eventually going to win. Doesn't mean it is correct, or right, just that it will have the votes to win eventually, everywhere, or almost everywhere. For us to maintain status quo, or possibly gain leverage, I believe the actions needed are a bridge to far for the American electorate. It is not I agree, or want, but I am a realist. You will get your socialism! The cost will astound you when it comes due, but by that time, it will be far to late if it is not already.

I am older and enjoyed the freedom America gave me. By the time you SOCIALISTS close the deal, I will be dead, or almost there. I fear for those who come after me......including those I love. There will be no saving the United States once people who have no assets, can control assets of people who do! While it will surely fall upon deaf ears, those that think this is a wonderful idea, need to read about the Roman Empire. See any similarities there!

I implore all to think-----------> The greatest country the earth has ever seen, bar none. The most powerful country the world has ever seen also, bar none! And yet, they want to change it. And since they have tried to change it, look at the country now! Are we growing stronger, or weaker! Are the economics better, or worse!

Answer those questions, and you will flee from those who try to convince you we need to transform America societally. What we need is MORE America here, not more MEHHHHHIIIIICOOOOO, or Cuba!

Don't get too down. Virtually no one was predicting a Trump Presidency. So, don't let the daily Democrat Fake News propaganda get you down. There is a 'Silent Majority' out there who decides Elections. They're quiet but very powerful.

And i truly believe they see the Democrats choosing their Party over their Country on this one. This Order is logical and reasonable. It's a 90 day temporary pause for God's sake. Don't lose faith that Trump can win this. Because he can. And i believe he will.

The appellate court ruled, it has nothing to do with Democrats

It has everything to do with DemoRATs, moron.

you lost son, grow a pair

Wrong.

 

[basquebromance]

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

 

[Dschrute3]

I will answer you Brummel, although you probably won't want to hear it----------->

1. Without a cabinet, Trump is on his own, thank you Dems.

2. I think they might have screwed the pooch on the order. That doesn't mean changing the wording so it passes, changes the outcome requested.

3. The 9th court is the most, or 2nd most over turned court in the United States. Once the 9th SCJ is put in, the left will be in deep trouble. Personally, I think Trump is going to get to name one more, and I hope it is Pryor. He is a flame thrower, and if you are going to be accosted when attempting to be nice, may as well not be nice!

4. Unless we are attacked while this order was to be in place, or someone got in..................this is just frosting on the illegal immigration cake coming very soon. Through this whole administration, the left and right are going to be at each others throats, because Trump is going to turn back lefty orthodoxy, and bureaucratic bullshit! The left can NOT have this happen, which is the biggest reason they are fighting Trump's cabinet picks.

5. Will Trump and America win? I hope so, but I doubt it! (I know, now you are pissed at me) Conservatives will have a hard time staying engaged throughout the fight, lefties will not. Reason is that lefties have Republicans supporting them with their tax dollars. Conservatives are getting their asses handed to them at work for the money to support themselves, their families, and the leftist lazy's. The leftist lazy's just show up, demand more wherever needed, then go have a latte!

6. The smart thing for conservatives would be FIND DEMOCRATS! No, not far leftists, but Democrats. We have all been able to work together for the country, and Democrats are NOT represented by far leftists. Recruit DEMOCRATS like Trump did, and the far left and right are done! And honestly, if you kick those people out, don't most of us reside in the middle? Make it all about regular Americans! Do not let either party push us towards specialty groups like LGBT, or far right wing mantras. Keep it as close to the middle as possible.

Personally Brummel, I think your side is eventually going to win. Doesn't mean it is correct, or right, just that it will have the votes to win eventually, everywhere, or almost everywhere. For us to maintain status quo, or possibly gain leverage, I believe the actions needed are a bridge to far for the American electorate. It is not I agree, or want, but I am a realist. You will get your socialism! The cost will astound you when it comes due, but by that time, it will be far to late if it is not already.

I am older and enjoyed the freedom America gave me. By the time you SOCIALISTS close the deal, I will be dead, or almost there. I fear for those who come after me......including those I love. There will be no saving the United States once people who have no assets, can control assets of people who do! While it will surely fall upon deaf ears, those that think this is a wonderful idea, need to read about the Roman Empire. See any similarities there!

I implore all to think-----------> The greatest country the earth has ever seen, bar none. The most powerful country the world has ever seen also, bar none! And yet, they want to change it. And since they have tried to change it, look at the country now! Are we growing stronger, or weaker! Are the economics better, or worse!

Answer those questions, and you will flee from those who try to convince you we need to transform America societally. What we need is MORE America here, not more MEHHHHHIIIIICOOOOO, or Cuba!

Don't get too down. Virtually no one was predicting a Trump Presidency. So, don't let the daily Democrat Fake News propaganda get you down. There is a 'Silent Majority' out there who decides Elections. They're quiet but very powerful.

And i truly believe they see the Democrats choosing their Party over their Country on this one. This Order is logical and reasonable. It's a 90 day temporary pause for God's sake. Don't lose faith that Trump can win this. Because he can. And i believe he will.

The appellate court ruled, it has nothing to do with Democrats

It has everything to do with DemoRATs, moron.

you lost son, grow a pair

Wrong.

It's just more premature Democrat gloating. They did this all throughout the Election. They celebrated Clinton's 'win' the day she announced she was running. They're not very bright folks. So let em gloat over this ruling. It isn't over yet though. Trump will fight. He loves a good fight.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The guy who grabs womens pusseys. That didn't seem to bother your kind, but Bill Clinton was a different story

Yes, Clinton was a different story because he did more than make up BS stories so he could brag to his friends, he was involved in the actions proven with DNA evidence.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Boy, you really have drank the Kool-Aid, huh? This has everything to do with Democrats. These are corrupt Democrat-dominated Courts who decided this. They chose their Party over their Country. And that's shameful. But i i believe it will be corrected. This isn't over yet.

Without a doubt. This 9th circus clown show has been overturned 80% of the time. The law is the law, and it's been the law since the 1950's.

Who is going to overturn them?????

The activist judges are trying to do that now. From here, it either goes back to the 9th for a ruling by all judges, Trump's people rewrite the order, or it goes to the Supreme Court.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

 

[bripat9643]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

Democrat douche bags are forcing him to, moron.

 

[Dschrute3]

Don't get too down. Virtually no one was predicting a Trump Presidency. So, don't let the daily Democrat Fake News propaganda get you down. There is a 'Silent Majority' out there who decides Elections. They're quiet but very powerful.

And i truly believe they see the Democrats choosing their Party over their Country on this one. This Order is logical and reasonable. It's a 90 day temporary pause for God's sake. Don't lose faith that Trump can win this. Because he can. And i believe he will.

The appellate court ruled, it has nothing to do with Democrats

It has everything to do with DemoRATs, moron.

you lost son, grow a pair

Wrong.

It's just more premature Democrat gloating. They did this all throughout the Election. They celebrated Clinton's 'win' the day she announced she was running. They're not very bright folks. So let em gloat over this ruling. It isn't over yet though. Trump will fight. He loves a good fight.

I think rewriting the Order is the right way to go. But it'll probably end up in the Supreme Court anyway. The Democrats will always choose Party before Country. They'll sue away.

 

[Dschrute3]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

Or just rewrite the Order. We'll see.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

Democrat douche bags are forcing him to, moron.

No, our Constitution is forcing him to.

Oh btw, wasn't this a temporary order? How does Trump know when this threat he sees magically ends?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

What choice does he have? It wasn't his decision, it was the liberals decision.

And God forbid we have a serious terrorist attack by a terrorist from one of these countries. The word "Democrat" will be mud as far as most Americans would be concerned.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, our Constitution is forcing him to.

No, judicial activists are forcing him to. The law that gives Trump the right to what he's doing has been on the books since the 1950's.

 

[Dschrute3]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

Democrat douche bags are forcing him to, moron.

No, our Constitution is forcing him to.

Oh btw, wasn't this a temporary order? How does Trump know when this threat he sees magically ends?

I don't get y'all Democrats. What's the big upside for American Citizens allowing Thousands in from these very dangerous chaotic nations? I just don't see the upside. And Trump's only calling for a 90 day pause to review and possibly implement reforms. It's not a 'Muslim Ban.' You Democrats have lied to the People about that. I think the Order is logical and reasonable. I hope Trump wins in the end.

 

[Dschrute3]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

What choice does he have? It wasn't his decision, it was the liberals decision.

And God forbid we have a serious terrorist attack by a terrorist from one of these countries. The word "Democrat" will be mud as far as most Americans would be concerned.

Yeah, Democrats really may have stepped in it bigtime on this one. They chose their Party over their Country. It could come back to haunt them someday.

 

[bripat9643]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

Democrat douche bags are forcing him to, moron.

No, our Constitution is forcing him to.

Oh btw, wasn't this a temporary order? How does Trump know when this threat he sees magically ends?

I don't get y'all Democrats. What's the big upside for American Citizens allowing Thousands in from these very dangerous chaotic nations? I just don't see the upside. And Trump's only calling for a 90 day pause to review and possibly implement reforms. It's not a 'Muslim Ban.' You Democrats have lied to the People about that. I think the Order is logical and reasonable. I hope Trump wins in the end.

The "upside" is the fact that they vote Democrat.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

I thought there was urgency to the order. Now Trump is going to diddle around for months in the courts?

What choice does he have? It wasn't his decision, it was the liberals decision.

And God forbid we have a serious terrorist attack by a terrorist from one of these countries. The word "Democrat" will be mud as far as most Americans would be concerned.

Yeah, Democrats really may have stepped in it bigtime on this one. They chose their Party over their Country. It could come back to haunt them someday.

It already has. DumBama ruled eight years of party first--country second, and now they are minorities in the Congress, Senate, Governorships not to mention losing hundreds of local state positions.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

The idea behind the ruling is reasonable and just, but the order was poorly drafted and poorly defended. All we need to do is redraft it with a lawyer who knows something about con law and we'll have a lawful order. Why rely on the court system unless all you want to do is complain about the court system? I mean, we control the outcome here if we just reissue it. We'll have extreme vetting in two days.

We already have extreme vetting. Ask the folks who actually do it.

And it has been extremely effective.

But, don't tell drumpf or the Pootarians..




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[Luddly Neddite]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

How is trump going to win this in the end. You are not an attorney, nor do you understand why it came down the way it did.
Just one more indication that Trump and his administration are trying to learn on the fly

We understand perfectly why it came down the way it did: Leftwing judges are political hacks who don't give a damn about what the law actually says.

IOW, the judges followed the law and the US Constitution.

Try again?


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[Luddly Neddite]

Be calm Trump supporters. Don't allow the Democrat gloating over this court ruling to get you down. It's a minor setback. The 9th is a notoriously far Left-leaning Court. So this ruling really shouldn't surprise anyone.

Just be patient. The fight isn't over. Trump's Order is completely reasonable and just. The Democrats once again chose their Party over their Country. And i think most Americans see that. Trump will win this in the end. He will be vindicated. Stay tuned.

The idea behind the ruling is reasonable and just, but the order was poorly drafted and poorly defended. All we need to do is redraft it with a lawyer who knows something about con law and we'll have a lawful order. Why rely on the court system unless all you want to do is complain about the court system? I mean, we control the outcome here if we just reissue it. We'll have extreme vetting in two days.

The order was perfectly legal. The 9th circuit's judgment was a complete sham. It was based on politics, not the law.

bripat9643 - And, since you're a professionally trained, constitutional lawyer, you can prove it, right?

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[Ray From Cleveland]

IOW, the judges followed the law and the US Constitution.

Try again?

No, they did not follow the law. Here is the law: