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What in the world is going on here?
Why does this have to be such a big fucking secret?
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Maybe because the other 11 (eleven) Counties involved in the Process have asked everyone else involved in the process to keep it that way?
Why do liberturdans ALWAYS sell out? I don't get it. The biggest bunch of whiners on earth with the least to offer.
I noticed you libs are against this but not blaming Obama one scintilla for it..he's a life-long Washington-Insider, started interning there and never left, and doesn't want to "rock the status quo boat" 'lest he lose his under the table quid pro quo retirement (book deals & sitting on boards) from his REAL constituents (the 1%'ers)
Synthaholic might have a word or three to say on this topic
If you call totally revising social security so the it is unrecognizable except in name only, you might be right.Ryan is against social security and other social safety nets, despite having collected survivor's benefits thru his college years.
It's the same demeaning situation as AA was to Clarence Thomas, being forced to go through college with that stigma.
Better to pull up the ladder than to run America"a youth up that gantlet!
That is a lie and you are a liar.
Ryan has NEVER spoken out against Social Security as a program.
You are a liar and a coward
What in the world is going on here?
Why does this have to be such a big fucking secret?
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Free and open trade need not be a secret. It's not rocket science.
I'm with both you and TAZbro on this one.
Exactly. If what they are trying to push through is so beneficial to the American people, why are they keeping it such a secret?
Apparently, when conservatives talk about their love of limited government they define that as making backroom deals hidden from the public that could have a drastic affect on all of our lives and only revealing to you the consequences of said deal after it's finalized and there is little to nothing that can be done about it. To think this man almost became our Vice-President.
There would be a public outcry if they knew just how badly they are about to be fucked.What in the world is going on here?
Why does this have to be such a big fucking secret?
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If you call totally revising social security so the it is unfeconnizable except in name only, you might be right.Ryan is against social security and other social safety nets, despite having collected survivor's benefits thru his college years.
It's the same demeaning situation as AA was to Clarence Thomas, being forced to go through college with that stigma.
Better to pull up the ladder than to run America"a youth up that gantlet!
That is a lie and you are a liar.
Ryan has NEVER spoken out against Social Security as a program.
You are a liar and a coward
But by common definitions of the word "liar," that would be Ryan.
And you.Ryan's budget:
Do not cut benefits
- Allows workers age 55 or younger to invest a large portion of their Social Security taxes in the stock market.
- Diverts $1 trillion from the Social Security Trust Fund, where benefits are guaranteed, to the casino of Wall Street.
- Puts the government on the hook for stock market losses.
[Estimates from the Center on Budget & Policy Priorities]
- Cuts benefits by 40% for middle-income workers making about $43,000.
- Cuts benefits by 50% for middle-income workers making about $70,000.
- Cuts benefits even more for higher-income workers.
Do not raise the retirement age
- Raises the normal retirement age to 68 by 2027, and increases it every two years so it will reach 70 later this century.
- Raising the retirement age to 70 is about a 20% benefit cut.
You mean for supporting Obama on this issue?The lack of political acumen on the part of conservatives is remarkable.Paul Ryan's a fraud? I could've told you that 3 years ago.
In other words, they actually stand for freedom unlike yourselves who lie about it?
And they don't espouse Republican fiscal policies because Republicans aren't fiscally responsible. You're a financial train wreck who's run up trillions in debt to fund your murderous war mongering that most of you are too cowardly to sign up for yourselves.
I do not lie. liberturdian scum lie.
They say, "Let us in your party. We promise to be good party members if you'll just let us give you some of our ideas."
We did. We allowed you in. You stabbed us in the back.
Start your own party.
The reason you keep being slapped down is because your theories SUCK. Your politicians SUCK and frankly, your ideas SUCK.
You can't be trusted. You stab us in the back at every opportunity.
I don't always get my way inside the Republican Party, either. I was NOT for Mittens to win the Party nomination. But when he did, I shut the fuck up and backed him.
Kinda like when our Soldiers go to War. I back our Soldiers no matter who the president is.
You? You're out there with Code Pink and Westboro Baptist.
You are untrustworthy and lowlife.
Period. Only a scumbag stabs his benefactors in the back.
I would rather see the United States be run by dimocrap scum than by fucking idiots like you.
Because it's a negotiation. Understand? Do unions and employers make public ongoing negotiations until there is a tentative agreement?
Are they elected members of the United States government?
I disagree with Ryan on this.Apparently, when conservatives talk about their love of limited government they define that as making backroom deals hidden from the public that could have a drastic affect on all of our lives and only revealing to you the consequences of said deal after it's finalized and there is little to nothing that can be done about it. To think this man almost became our Vice-President.
Chief Obamatrade proponent House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) admitted during Congressional testimony on Wednesday evening that despite tons of claims from him and other Obamatrade supporters to the contrary, the process is highly secretive.
He also made a gaffe in his House Rules Committee testimony on par with former Speaker Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)’s push to pass Obamacare, in which she said infamously said: “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
“It’s declassified and made public once it’s agreed to,” Ryan said of Obamatrade in Rules Committee testimony on Wednesday during questioning from Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX).
Paul Ryan s Pelosi-Esque Obamatrade Moment It s Declassified And Made Public Once It s Agreed To - Breitbart
That's interesting misty. And not to contradict you at all, but imo it's interesting that one of the not so secret trade offs being made to the bill is one that wouldI disagree with Ryan on this.Apparently, when conservatives talk about their love of limited government they define that as making backroom deals hidden from the public that could have a drastic affect on all of our lives and only revealing to you the consequences of said deal after it's finalized and there is little to nothing that can be done about it. To think this man almost became our Vice-President.
Chief Obamatrade proponent House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) admitted during Congressional testimony on Wednesday evening that despite tons of claims from him and other Obamatrade supporters to the contrary, the process is highly secretive.
He also made a gaffe in his House Rules Committee testimony on par with former Speaker Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)’s push to pass Obamacare, in which she said infamously said: “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
“It’s declassified and made public once it’s agreed to,” Ryan said of Obamatrade in Rules Committee testimony on Wednesday during questioning from Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX).
Paul Ryan s Pelosi-Esque Obamatrade Moment It s Declassified And Made Public Once It s Agreed To - Breitbart
Disney just had their American workers train foreigners and then fired the Americans. This is a mess.
"Instead, about 250 Disney employeeswere told in late October that they would be laid off. Many of their jobs were transferred to immigrants on temporary visas for highly skilled technical workers, who were brought in by an outsourcing firm based in India. Over the next three months, some Disney employees were required to train their replacements to do the jobs they had lost."
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/0...rain-foreign-replacements.html?referrer=&_r=0
Let's see, Minnesota's economy is better than Florida's, Minnesota's healthcare system is better than Florida's, our crime rate is lower than Florida's, our education system is better than Florida's, our quality of life is better than Florida's.
But for four months your weather is better than ours. Well whoopie! I grew up in a warm weather country and then moved to a warm weather state. I moved to Minny 12 years ago on a temporary assignment and decided to stay. I'll take Minnesota's high quality of life over Florida's 4 months of superior weather ten out of tens times.
We saw it snow heavily every month but June, July, and August. But hey....if you like -15 below zero and snow frozen into concrete you have to shovel every day then yeah....it's great. 
Here's a simple chart showing the horrific effect trade deals have had on the American worker....that cheap gadget you get from China is costing a fellow citizen his job and you're paying his unemployment to boot.
The uptick in exports since 2007 is a false narrative since foreign-made goods are counted as exports as we middleman deals between the orient and Europe.
Apparently, when conservatives talk about their love of limited government they define that as making backroom deals hidden from the public that could have a drastic affect on all of our lives and only revealing to you the consequences of said deal after it's finalized and there is little to nothing that can be done about it. To think this man almost became our Vice-President.
You libs can't get it through your thick skulls, stop confusing GOP establishment politicians with conservatives. I outed Paul Ryan as a GOP establishment politician years ago, you are a bit late to that party.
Let's see, Minnesota's economy is better than Florida's, Minnesota's healthcare system is better than Florida's, our crime rate is lower than Florida's, our education system is better than Florida's, our quality of life is better than Florida's.
But for four months your weather is better than ours. Well whoopie! I grew up in a warm weather country and then moved to a warm weather state. I moved to Minny 12 years ago on a temporary assignment and decided to stay. I'll take Minnesota's high quality of life over Florida's 4 months of superior weather ten out of tens times.
I hated Minneapolis. I lived there nearly 6 years with the ex. We called it ice station zebra.
The people are also weird as bat shit. No social skills....aloof...and very, very strange. If you can carry a conversation they look at you like your from Mars.
We saw it snow heavily every month but June, July, and August." -Welfare Queen
