Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

[bripat9643]

You and half the other Democrats on the site aren't Democrats You aren't a Democrat, but you just have to admit over and over that the Democrats are right on every issue. But you aren't one. Sure. You, Jake Starkey, Sieta, Moonglow, g5000, and on and on. The list is endless of you non-Democrats who always argue on the side of the Democrats.

Thing is, the Democrat party has now put up the bat signal because of Trump. Come home and defend the party! And you do

Yeah that's part of what an Independent is dummy. It means you don't completely agree with everything one party does.

Good grief. I've said I'm a slightly right leaning Independent.... I say that because I'm closer to being an Independent than a moderate Republican.

So I see you arguing with people all the time on the exact same thing, that you're a lame fake independent/Republican/non-Democrat At any point do you think maybe you should sometimes tell someone with what you disagree with Democrats on if you aren't one?

If you have any integrity at all, you know that I argue with Republicans all the time. Yes, I argue with Democrats more. Read my sig. The racism/Nazi/Russia crap is over the top, they are destroying their country. But I argue with Republicans about social security, economics, the military, abortion, Republican out of control spending regularly as well. I notice when leftists argue with Democrats. It happens only very rarely. And I don't see you doing it

I have... when I first got here Democrats hated me because of my posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Jesus dude, give up.

If you don't want to listen to a Democrat bring up racism and Nazis then maybe don't elect a President that supports conspiracy shit, retweets white nationalists, and then tweets lies about other races.

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

His tweets about South Africa are 100% true. South Africa has been murdering white farmers, and it's getting ready to appropriate their land. Trump never retweeted any far right group.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

. Trump never retweeted any far right group.

Wrong once again...at least you are consistent.

 

[kaz]

You and half the other Democrats on the site aren't Democrats You aren't a Democrat, but you just have to admit over and over that the Democrats are right on every issue. But you aren't one. Sure. You, Jake Starkey, Sieta, Moonglow, g5000, and on and on. The list is endless of you non-Democrats who always argue on the side of the Democrats.

Thing is, the Democrat party has now put up the bat signal because of Trump. Come home and defend the party! And you do

Yeah that's part of what an Independent is dummy. It means you don't completely agree with everything one party does.

Good grief. I've said I'm a slightly right leaning Independent.... I say that because I'm closer to being an Independent than a moderate Republican.

So I see you arguing with people all the time on the exact same thing, that you're a lame fake independent/Republican/non-Democrat At any point do you think maybe you should sometimes tell someone with what you disagree with Democrats on if you aren't one?

If you have any integrity at all, you know that I argue with Republicans all the time. Yes, I argue with Democrats more. Read my sig. The racism/Nazi/Russia crap is over the top, they are destroying their country. But I argue with Republicans about social security, economics, the military, abortion, Republican out of control spending regularly as well. I notice when leftists argue with Democrats. It happens only very rarely. And I don't see you doing it

I have... when I first got here Democrats hated me because of my posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Jesus dude, give up.

If you don't want to listen to a Democrat bring up racism and Nazis then maybe don't elect a President that supports conspiracy shit, retweets white nationalists, and then tweets lies about other races.

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

 

[Lewdog]

Yeah that's part of what an Independent is dummy. It means you don't completely agree with everything one party does.

Good grief. I've said I'm a slightly right leaning Independent.... I say that because I'm closer to being an Independent than a moderate Republican.

So I see you arguing with people all the time on the exact same thing, that you're a lame fake independent/Republican/non-Democrat At any point do you think maybe you should sometimes tell someone with what you disagree with Democrats on if you aren't one?

If you have any integrity at all, you know that I argue with Republicans all the time. Yes, I argue with Democrats more. Read my sig. The racism/Nazi/Russia crap is over the top, they are destroying their country. But I argue with Republicans about social security, economics, the military, abortion, Republican out of control spending regularly as well. I notice when leftists argue with Democrats. It happens only very rarely. And I don't see you doing it

I have... when I first got here Democrats hated me because of my posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Jesus dude, give up.

If you don't want to listen to a Democrat bring up racism and Nazis then maybe don't elect a President that supports conspiracy shit, retweets white nationalists, and then tweets lies about other races.

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

 

[kaz]

So I see you arguing with people all the time on the exact same thing, that you're a lame fake independent/Republican/non-Democrat At any point do you think maybe you should sometimes tell someone with what you disagree with Democrats on if you aren't one?

If you have any integrity at all, you know that I argue with Republicans all the time. Yes, I argue with Democrats more. Read my sig. The racism/Nazi/Russia crap is over the top, they are destroying their country. But I argue with Republicans about social security, economics, the military, abortion, Republican out of control spending regularly as well. I notice when leftists argue with Democrats. It happens only very rarely. And I don't see you doing it

I have... when I first got here Democrats hated me because of my posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Jesus dude, give up.

If you don't want to listen to a Democrat bring up racism and Nazis then maybe don't elect a President that supports conspiracy shit, retweets white nationalists, and then tweets lies about other races.

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

 

[Lewdog]

I have... when I first got here Democrats hated me because of my posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Jesus dude, give up.

If you don't want to listen to a Democrat bring up racism and Nazis then maybe don't elect a President that supports conspiracy shit, retweets white nationalists, and then tweets lies about other races.

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson or Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

 

[kaz]

Ding, ding, ding, another leftist with massive Trump butt hurt.

And Trump hasn't tweeted about other races, leftist bigot. How surprising, another racist race baiter. Race baiting is in itself racism. You're exploiting races for political gain

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

 

[Lewdog]

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

 

[Lewdog]

You understand this is stuff that can be proven right?

Video: Trump faces more fallout from retweets of far-right group

Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

"They are good people on both sides... both sides."

It goes on and on. It's pretty simple. Don't want to hear about racism and Nazism, don't elect and support a guy that says and does things to support Alt-Right groups.

Confirmation bias.

-------------------------------------------------

Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



--------------------------------------------------

What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

-----------------------------------------------------

So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

Also I didn't "drop it." I corrected it. It's called clearing things up and admitting I said something incorrectly.

Pretty crazy how you accuse a person of being a liar one minute, and then you accuse them of something else when they clear up what they said. That's evidence you can't and won't actually discuss the issues because you have an agenda that doesn't even involve the issues.

I think it is about time to create a thread defining "Kazzing out." Faun Golfing Gator ?

 

[kaz]

Confirmation bias.

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Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



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What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

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So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

 

[Lewdog]

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

 

[kaz]

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

Even the British were reporting that the white farmers were not getting paid for the land, this isn't just a US claim. It was widely reported. You're blindly believing a statement by the South African government. But let's say for the moment it's true.

Trump Tweeted that South Africa is confiscating land from whites.

That was widely reported across multiple national medias, he has no reason to not believe it's true.

However, you're saying the South African government issued a claim confirming they are confiscating land from whites, but that they are going to pay for it. Which doesn't contradict what Trump said.

And that ... according to you ... even if what you said is all true ... makes Trump a racist.

Yeah ...

And according to you, it's fine if government confiscates the land owned by families for centuries as long as they are paid for it. That's no thang

 

[Lewdog]

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

Even the British were reporting that the white farmers were not getting paid for the land, this isn't just a US claim. It was widely reported. You're blindly believing a statement by the South African government. But let's say for the moment it's true.

Trump Tweeted that South Africa is confiscating land from whites.

That was widely reported across multiple national medias, he has no reason to not believe it's true.

However, you're saying the South African government issued a claim confirming they are confiscating land from whites, but that they are going to pay for it. Which doesn't contradict what Trump said.

And that ... according to you ... even if what you said is all true ... makes Trump a racist.

Yeah ...

And according to you, it's fine if government confiscates the land owned by families for centuries as long as they are paid for it. That's no thang

You're reading it wrong. An ANC Chairman said "they should just take it without compensation" but that isn't the ACTUAL South African law and policy. See what happens when you look at reports with blind partisanship? You can't use critical reading skills to comprehend the truth.

 

[bripat9643]

. Trump never retweeted any far right group.

Wrong once again...at least you are consistent.

That accusation is that he retweeted "white nationalist" groups. Of course, the term "white nationalist" is just a scumbag leftwing propaganda term that implies anyone who wants to enforce immigration laws and control our borders is a racist. It's just another sleazy leftwing propaganda ploy.

 

[bripat9643]

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

Even the British were reporting that the white farmers were not getting paid for the land, this isn't just a US claim. It was widely reported. You're blindly believing a statement by the South African government. But let's say for the moment it's true.

Trump Tweeted that South Africa is confiscating land from whites.

That was widely reported across multiple national medias, he has no reason to not believe it's true.

However, you're saying the South African government issued a claim confirming they are confiscating land from whites, but that they are going to pay for it. Which doesn't contradict what Trump said.

And that ... according to you ... even if what you said is all true ... makes Trump a racist.

Yeah ...

And according to you, it's fine if government confiscates the land owned by families for centuries as long as they are paid for it. That's no thang

You're reading it wrong. An ANC Chairman said "they should just take it without compensation" but that isn't the ACTUALLY South African law and policy. See what happens when you look at reports with blind partisanship? You can't use critical reading skills to comprehend the truth.

They are getting ready to change the law so they can just take it, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

Even the British were reporting that the white farmers were not getting paid for the land, this isn't just a US claim. It was widely reported. You're blindly believing a statement by the South African government. But let's say for the moment it's true.

Trump Tweeted that South Africa is confiscating land from whites.

That was widely reported across multiple national medias, he has no reason to not believe it's true.

However, you're saying the South African government issued a claim confirming they are confiscating land from whites, but that they are going to pay for it. Which doesn't contradict what Trump said.

And that ... according to you ... even if what you said is all true ... makes Trump a racist.

Yeah ...

And according to you, it's fine if government confiscates the land owned by families for centuries as long as they are paid for it. That's no thang

They are going to get paid $0.10 on the dollar, which is the same as stealing it.

 

[Lewdog]

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

Another lie. They don't pay for it. Watch the British video I already provided you, dumb ass. So this is the false equivalency by the racist Lewdog

- The US takes land from some unspecified people for unspecified reasons. No idea what you're even talking about

- South Africa takes land from white farmers and gives it to blacks

Here are two facts:

1) Race baiting is racism, it's exploiting races for political points

2) That makes you a racist.

There is no doubt about that.

You haven't shown any racism in Trump or any racist thing he's said. That's because he's not a racist and hasn't said anything racist.

It's all just leftist Democrat hackery because you voted for Hillary and you're bitter and want to overturn the election

They do pay for it.

"He says the 139 white landowners are simply asking the government to pay too much for their land, so the state will ask a court to determine a fair price for the farms."

South Africa Denies Plan to Seize White Farmers' Land

See how you are letting yourself be brainwashed? Sure sounds like a big difference in talking points between, "They are just TAKING the land" and "They are forcing some of the farmers to sell their land."

Even the British were reporting that the white farmers were not getting paid for the land, this isn't just a US claim. It was widely reported. You're blindly believing a statement by the South African government. But let's say for the moment it's true.

Trump Tweeted that South Africa is confiscating land from whites.

That was widely reported across multiple national medias, he has no reason to not believe it's true.

However, you're saying the South African government issued a claim confirming they are confiscating land from whites, but that they are going to pay for it. Which doesn't contradict what Trump said.

And that ... according to you ... even if what you said is all true ... makes Trump a racist.

Yeah ...

And according to you, it's fine if government confiscates the land owned by families for centuries as long as they are paid for it. That's no thang

You're reading it wrong. An ANC Chairman said "they should just take it without compensation" but that isn't the ACTUALLY South African law and policy. See what happens when you look at reports with blind partisanship? You can't use critical reading skills to comprehend the truth.

They are getting ready to change the law so they can just take it, moron.

Because one guy recommended that doesn't mean they are going to do it. Even the Black farmers there don't want to do that. It causes more problems. Do you know how they punished the members of South African government after Apartheid?

 

[bripat9643]

Confirmation bias.

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Trump: “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

Lewdog: Just like he retweeted about South Africa, and it is totally untrue.

It is true, WTF is wrong with you? Some of that land has been in farmer's families for centuries. It's just your typical leftist bull shit that racism is only white on black, blacks can't by your leftist definition be racists



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What Trump said: “You also had some very fine people on both sides."

This is how you lie, "They are good people on both sides... both sides."

You changed that he said some to all and you said he repeated it, which he didn't.

So just to be clear, you think there are not SOME good people who are both for and against removing southern statues of former slave owners? One side has in your view literally zero good people?

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So other than your just flat outright lie/misquote of Trump and a factually true statement that you lied wasn't factually true, you have anything or you going to hang your hat on that, racist? Again, race baiting is in itself racist

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

The government has to compensate people when it takes their land. SA isn't doing that, moron.

 

[Lewdog]

It's a true as making a political statement that Blacks are being systematically exterminated in America. Yes, there are white people who are killing Blacks in the U.S. but it isn't anywhere near the levels it used to be.

The killing of white farmers in South Africa is actually DOWN from in the past, and South Africa isn't taking away land at some crazy rate in South Africa. It is no different than here in the U.S. where Trump wants to build his wall, which will include the federal government taking the land of U.S. citizens under imminent domain so they can build the wall.

That's are why these are called half-truths.

Trump Echoes Neo-Nazi Propaganda About South Africa (That He Heard on Fox News)

So please explain to me how I paraphrased what Trump said was different from the EXACT quote.

I said they are, when it is "there are." Yes, that is the quote and even with that quote, he is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth so that he can try to say he spoke out against the violence, YET not offend the white nationalist base, one of which ran over protesters and killed a woman.

The tweet YOU referred to again. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

The link I gave you said the South African government is taking land from white farmers. It also mentioned blacks killing white farmers, so you went off on that deflecting from the point we were discussing.

This is how you lie and race bait, racist. Trump didn't say anything about the murder of white farmers, he said the South African government is confiscating the land of white farmers, which is true.

And these were your go to, first off the bat examples that Trump is the racist. One you just flat out lied and misquoted him. The other, you didn't address what he said but make up something he didn't say and went off after that.

All you're doing is proving your point that you're a racist because you are race baiting and exploiting races for cheap political points

And they are, but that wasn't how Tucker Carlson of Trump played it. They used it as a white nationalist talking point to exploit.

There are difference between the truth, and using the "truth" in an exploitative manner.

No, I did not "just flat out lie and misquote him." I paraphrased what he said off the top of my head because I didn't feel like going and watching the video at the time. And what I said has very little difference from what he said. You can't even explain the difference, yet continue to harp on it.

See there is a big difference from what HE says that I point out is racist, and what you are accusing me of. I can provide proof to back up what I say... you on the other hand just use the same bullshit cowardly defense of calling everyone that points it out a race-baiting racist. I've never done a racist thing in my life and have actually lost good friends due to the fact they wouldn't quit using the "n" word quite often. And pointing out when Trump does things to appease his white nationalist base isn't "race-baiting." It's called the truth, and as long as you defend him for it and accuse those that point it out as race-baiting, you're enabling it.

So you're not able to support your stupid crap on Trump without lying on both points, so you switch to "Tucker Carlson."

We are talking about Trump, not Tucker Carlson. I don't give a shit about Tucker Carlson. You're just moving the goal posts again.

Back to the subject.

Trump said there are "some" good people both on the side of people who want to remove confederate statues and those who don't.

You lied and said he said everyone on both sides is good. And you only did that because you wanted to have any racists caught in your net, so you included everyone. When called on it, you dropped it.

Trump said the government of South Africa is taking the land of white farmers, which they are. First you lied and said they aren't doing that. Then you started talking about the murder of white farmers, which Trump didn't address.

Keep in mind these were your choice. The first, go to examples of Trump being a racist that you chose.

You sir, are guilty of race baiting, which makes you a racist for exploiting races for cheap political points

He got the idea from watching Tucker Carlson. Good grief. You are either extremely naive, or do blindly partisan if Trump told you to jump you'd ask "How long, how far, how high, and who it will hurt by doing it." Of course it could also be that you are just stupid, or a combination of any of the three.

The United States takes land from U.S. citizens too. Why are you ignoring that? Also when South Africa does take land, they don't just take it, they pay for it.

The government has to compensate people when it takes their land. SA isn't doing that, moron.

Yes they are. The U.S. government doesn't pay actual market value for land here either, which is what happens when the government is the buyer and sets the price. Ask anyone that has had their land seized due to imminent domain.

 

[Flopper]

I'm referring to your silence, Einstein

My silence? I have said REPEATEDLY I thought Clinton should have been impeached back then for lying under oath.

Jesus Christ it is like some kind of incurable widespread sickness on this forum for Trump supporters to just make shit up about what people say or support.

Ah, so you're another Democrat who used to be a Republican? You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting one of those

I stated from day one I am not a Democrat. I'm a former Republican that is an Independent.

Also, another unethical thing of you to think that ALL people within a political group are as blind a tribal partisan political hack as you. Quit projecting.

If you want to keep a dossier of me, don't do it in your fantasy world head, create a word document. Feel free to create a Q&A thread for more and I'd be more than willing to give you an interview.

You and half the other Democrats on the site aren't Democrats You aren't a Democrat, but you just have to admit over and over that the Democrats are right on every issue. But you aren't one. Sure. You, Jake Starkey, Sieta, Moonglow, g5000, and on and on. The list is endless of you non-Democrats who always argue on the side of the Democrats.

Thing is, the Democrat party has now put up the bat signal because of Trump. Come home and defend the party! And you do

Yeah that's part of what an Independent is dummy. It means you don't completely agree with everything one party does.

Good grief. I've said I'm a slightly right leaning Independent.... I say that because I'm closer to being an Independent than a moderate Republican.

Trump's behavior is drawing criticism from people that rarely if ever vote and know nothing about the two parties, the issues or which party supports which issue. That actually might be one good thing Trump may accomplish as president, involve people in the political process that previously had no interest at all.