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Key words there. I think they go for around $100,000 now?That's bullshit, you can own a fully automatic tommy gun, if you have a clean record and can afford it.
You are missing the forest for the trees!This is a good line of questioning.What if you can stop 1 murder by limiting the firepower or magazine capacity of a gun in a school shooters hands. Say 16 deaths instead of 17 cause he had less bullets or had to reload... would that be worth it?I can't stop 11000 murders but If I can stop one (mine or my wife's) that's good enough reason to have a gunWhat is your proposal for mitigating the 11,000+ gun homicides in the US each year?
If we make it more difficult to obtain guns, then we save lives. This has proven to be the case in other advanced nations.
It has not been proven.
The UK saw a rise in their murder rate after they passed ultra strict gun laws and their murder rate did not fall below what it was before the ban
In fact the murder rate in London is greater than the murder rate in NYC despite the strict UK gun laws
So how do you explain that?
The UK has always had stricter gun control than the US.
So look at the left side of your chart. Notice anything?
The homicide rate in the UK is 0.92 per 100,000.
The homicide rate in the US is 4.88 per 100,000.
Our murder rate is more than five times that of the UK.
Whoever made that chart had to show murders per MILLION to make the homicide problem look bigger than it is.
Even at their worst period, their homicide rate was only about a third of ours.
Cars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?Hey dimwit, I didn’t ask if a 19 year old could get a machine gun, I asked if you supported th ban on them, I’m asking if you think 19 year olds should be able to go buy machine guns with no questions asked. DO YOU SUPPORT THAT OR NOT?I just said that a 19 year old, and people like me cant get a machine gun....legally....Your question is a straw man argument.Do you think it’s a good thing or bad thing that 19 year olds can’t get machine guns? Simple question
Remember when Barack Obama and Eric Holder allowed guns to be put in the hands of Mexican drug cartels in order to cause maximum violence?As reported by the New York Post, the operation was a Department of Justice-run program that allowed thousands of rifles including .50-caliber rifles with a range of nearly two miles and powerful enough to take down a helicopter to be sold to the cartels, allegedly so they could be “tracked” back to the illegal drug-running operations.
However, the Post noted, “internal documents later revealed the real goal was to gin up a crisis requiring a crackdown on guns in America.
Do you think fairies should have their wings clipped so they can't fly?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
It is funny how none of these three can answer a simple question. Do you support machine gun regulations? “They are illegal” “criminals can get them” not answers to the question!!!!You seem terrified to answer his simple question.And my question for the fifth time is if you support those regulations on machine gunsBecause fucking machine guns are regulated to the point you have to have a FFL license to purchase one, along with a very extensive background check with the FBI and ATF seeing WHY you want to purchase one. Only idiots like you listen to the lickspittle, lapdog, liberal, lame stream media to get your dose of Socialist talking points.(and you call me a puppet).We are talking about gun regulation are we not? How is that a straw man?
View attachment 186568Do you think it’s a good thing or bad thing that 19 year olds can’t get machine guns?I just spit my coffee on my computer screen, be back in a few minutes.And my question for the fifth time is if you support those regulations on machine guns
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You think a criminal can't get their hands on one? Too funny dude
Did you see this news report of another man wielding a machete and broke into 2 apartments? They had no weapons and felt helpless as to what to do if he had attacked them with it. Fortunately, he didn’t, but what if he had? They were defenseless.
Who is saying that law abiding families shouldn’t have the right to own a gun to protect their families in their home? Please show who is saying that or stop dishonestly implying that is the sentiment of the “left”
Your right for self defense doesn't end at your front door.
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Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Did I ask if they were illegal? No, I didn’t. Btw they arent illegal but that beside the point. I asked if you support them being regulated. Do you want to become the 4th on this thread that can answer a yes/no question?Machine guns are illegal moron, and it is a good thing. What the fuck is your fucking point?Do you think it’s a good thing or bad thing that 19 year olds can’t get machine guns? Simple question19 year olds cant get a machine gun, just like I cant....Legally.... Are you really that stupid? Don't have to answer that, we all ready know.What’s my straw man?If either shooter had crock pot bombs, there is no doubt there would be more deaths. Want to continue with straw man arguments? If the Police and FBI did their job, neither shootings would of occurred...If either shooter had a machine gun is there any doubt there wouldn’t have been more deaths? I think not. Luckily, machine guns are heavily regulated. Get the point?
Also Parkland wasn’t gun free, there was an armed deputy on campus
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Cars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?Hey dimwit, I didn’t ask if a 19 year old could get a machine gun, I asked if you supported th ban on them, I’m asking if you think 19 year olds should be able to go buy machine guns with no questions asked. DO YOU SUPPORT THAT OR NOT?I just said that a 19 year old, and people like me cant get a machine gun....legally....Your question is a straw man argument.
Remember when Barack Obama and Eric Holder allowed guns to be put in the hands of Mexican drug cartels in order to cause maximum violence?
Do you think fairies should have their wings clipped so they can't fly?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
Did you know that poison is more dangerous in food than guns?Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Knives ‘more dangerous’ at close range than guns | Toronto Star
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What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?Hey dimwit, I didn’t ask if a 19 year old could get a machine gun, I asked if you supported th ban on them, I’m asking if you think 19 year olds should be able to go buy machine guns with no questions asked. DO YOU SUPPORT THAT OR NOT?
Do you think fairies should have their wings clipped so they can't fly?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
No giving a shit is not an answer?
What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?Do you think fairies should have their wings clipped so they can't fly?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
No giving a shit is not an answer?
It’s about access. If crazy Carl wants to go shoot up a school and he can stop by the local Walmart to pick up a machine gun with unlimited ammo on his way to the school... is that something you think our system should allow? You don’t care?What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
No giving a shit is not an answer?
Wouldn't care if they had no restrictions.
What you fail to grasp is that NO LAW ABIDING CITIZEN would use them in the commission of a crime. And Criminals, they don't care if they are regulated or not.
You seem to worry about criminals far more than law abiding citizens.
Did you know that poison is more dangerous in food than guns?Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Knives ‘more dangerous’ at close range than guns | Toronto Star
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It’s about access. If crazy Carl wants to go shoot up a school and he can stop by the local Walmart to pick up a machine gun with unlimited ammo on his way to the school... is that something you think our system should allow? You don’t care?What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
No giving a shit is not an answer?
Wouldn't care if they had no restrictions.
What you fail to grasp is that NO LAW ABIDING CITIZEN would use them in the commission of a crime. And Criminals, they don't care if they are regulated or not.
You seem to worry about criminals far more than law abiding citizens.
So since they can’t easily get machine guns which far more effective tool have shooters found to use?Did you know that poison is more dangerous in food than guns?Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Knives ‘more dangerous’ at close range than guns | Toronto Star
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And would likely be used more if guns were banned.
You actually proved a post I made several times earlier. If you remove a tool from a murderer, they will just find another tool, it's what they do. The horrible part of this is, you may just drive them to find a far more effective tool.
An unexpected backup is still appreciated
Thanks
What does that have to do with anything?It’s about access. If crazy Carl wants to go shoot up a school and he can stop by the local Walmart to pick up a machine gun with unlimited ammo on his way to the school... is that something you think our system should allow? You don’t care?What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?
No giving a shit is not an answer?
Wouldn't care if they had no restrictions.
What you fail to grasp is that NO LAW ABIDING CITIZEN would use them in the commission of a crime. And Criminals, they don't care if they are regulated or not.
You seem to worry about criminals far more than law abiding citizens.
School shootings have risen since fully autos have been regulated. Or didn't you get the memo?
Did you see this news report of another man wielding a machete and broke into 2 apartments? They had no weapons and felt helpless as to what to do if he had attacked them with it. Fortunately, he didn’t, but what if he had? They were defenseless.
Who is saying that law abiding families shouldn’t have the right to own a gun to protect their families in their home? Please show who is saying that or stop dishonestly implying that is the sentiment of the “left”
Your right for self defense doesn't end at your front door.
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It can definately be limited if your right for self defense becomes a public safety issue. Hence the debate
Did you know that poison is more dangerous in food than guns?Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Knives ‘more dangerous’ at close range than guns | Toronto Star
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So since they can’t easily get machine guns which far more effective tool have shooters found to use?Did you know that poison is more dangerous in food than guns?Why is knife crime rising? Would you rather go up against a guy with a knife or a guy with a gun?London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.
Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.
Knives ‘more dangerous’ at close range than guns | Toronto Star
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And would likely be used more if guns were banned.
You actually proved a post I made several times earlier. If you remove a tool from a murderer, they will just find another tool, it's what they do. The horrible part of this is, you may just drive them to find a far more effective tool.
An unexpected backup is still appreciated
Thanks
At this point, what difference does it make if the machine gun is regulated or not. We the People cannot get them unless we have a legal means to purchase, or are criminal like Eric Holder and get them from the DOJ..What’s no giving a shit? Are you trying to say that you don’t care if machine guns are regulated? Come on man, use your wordsCars are not a constitutional right so it’s a different discussion now isn’t it? How do you feel about machine guns being regulated? Do you support it or not?What does that have to do with gun regulations?Do you think fairies should have their wings clipped so they can't fly?
We regulate the shit out of cars, seems someone used one to kill 6 kids last week.
You have a point?
Murderers murder, they give a crap out of laws and regulations, it's not within the nature of a killer to care.
No giving a shit is not an answer?
