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The US could certainly learn a lesson from Finland. Finish students consistently have higher test scores than the US and most other countries. PISA which is the association that evaluates student achievement at age 15, ranks Finland number 1 in reading, mathematics, and science in years 2000, 2003, 2006. In 2009, they ranked 6 in Math, 2 in science, and 3 in reading. The US ranked 15, 24, 21, and 17. The huge difference in test scores are paralleled by a huge difference in the Finish approach to education.
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
And oddly, they are not Asian. I agree that the parents are at the core. But since American parents don't seem to want to do their job as parents as they used to...why should teachers be doing the job of teacher AND parent and not be reimbursed for both?
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
And oddly, they are not Asian. I agree that the parents are at the core. But since American parents don't seem to want to do their job as parents as they used to...why should teachers be doing the job of teacher AND parent and not be reimbursed for both?
The fact that Finnish parents are better than American parents isn't proof that American schools don't suck. American teachers aren't doing either job well. They suck at both. Government schools should be abolished, not rewarded for incompetence.
Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".
Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2
Why?
- Public Education is a Public Service Career.
- Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
- Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
- Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.
Sources:
True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)
Rumor has it that unlike many of the multinational corporations and millionaire executives that bankroll the Republican/Tea Party, America's teachers actually pay taxes.How a Dozen Multinational Corporations Spent a Billion Dollars on Lobbying and Campaign Contributions and Avoided Paying Taxes
Twelve large American corporations have been identified by news reports, nonprofit organizations, and elected officials as paying little or no federal income taxes. Collectively, these one dozen corporate tax dodgers have benefited dramatically – in tax loopholes, bailouts, and subsidies – from the more than $1 billion dollars they have invested into influencing Washington. As Americans pay their taxes this month, it is important to understand that our political system lets these corporations off the hook while the rest of us foot the bill .....
Quick Facts on General Electric
Campaign Contributions: Total Over 10 Years (2001-2010), $13 million
Lobbying Expenditures: Total Over 10 Years (2001-2010), $205 million
Government Contracts: $3.9 billion in 2008; $24 billion from 2000-2008
Taxes Paid in the Last 5 Years: $0
Profits Over Last 5 Years: $26 billion
Tax Refund for Last 5 Years: $4.1 billion
http://www.publicampaign.org/reports/artfuldodgers/telecom
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
And oddly, they are not Asian. I agree that the parents are at the core. But since American parents don't seem to want to do their job as parents as they used to...why should teachers be doing the job of teacher AND parent and not be reimbursed for both?
The fact that Finnish parents are better than American parents isn't proof that American schools don't suck. American teachers aren't doing either job well. They suck at both. Government schools should be abolished, not rewarded for incompetence.
The US could certainly learn a lesson from Finland. Finish students consistently have higher test scores than the US and most other countries. PISA which is the association that evaluates student achievement at age 15, ranks Finland number 1 in reading, mathematics, and science in years 2000, 2003, 2006. In 2009, they ranked 6 in Math, 2 in science, and 3 in reading. The US ranked 15, 24, 21, and 17. The huge difference in test scores are paralleled by a huge difference in the Finish approach to education.
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
Public schools should be abolished?
You Republicans, is there no bat shit crazy idea you won't support?
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
You're just making shit up. Cut it out.
It was the greed of these same bankers and executives, not America's unionized teachers, that triggered the financial meltdown from which the nation has yet to recover.
These 12 co-orprations are:
- ExxonMobil
- Chevron
- ConocoPhillips
- Valero
- Bank of america
- Citigroup
- Goldman Sachs
- Boeing
- FedEx
- CarnivalCruises
- Verizon
- General Electric[/b]
And ALL supporters of OBAMA.It was the greed of these same bankers and executives, not America's unionized teachers, that triggered the financial meltdown from which the nation has yet to recover.
These 12 co-orprations are:
- ExxonMobil
- Chevron
- ConocoPhillips
- Valero
- Bank of america
- Citigroup
- Goldman Sachs
- Boeing
- FedEx
- CarnivalCruises
- Verizon
- General Electric[/b]
Most of those companies had nothing whatsoever to do with the financial meltdown. The ones that did were doing the government's bidding. That's why they got bailed out. Specifically: Bank of American, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs.
Name some places then. Specifically. Show us how you get better teachers by paying them less and taking away their benefits and workplace protections, etc.
Show the actual examples.
Here's the irrefutable proof:
The performance of Finnish schools has more to do with Finnish parents than anything the schools are doing.
You're just making shit up. Cut it out.
Actually not. The dept of Education has done numerous studies that show student performance is largely dependent on how active a role parents take in their child's education. You would think it would be embarrassed by such facts because they show the public schools are largely superfluous to the education process.
At first glance, this chart would seem to indicate that there is no correlation between funding and student graduation, however the problem here is that the chart does not take into account the difference in the cost of living in various cities. For example, the cost living in New York city, which has the second highest per student cost in the country has a cost of living of 2.3 times the cost of living in Oklahoma City, which has the second lowest per student cost. If you adjust the chart for the difference in costs of in the various cities, you will see a very different picture. For example, it the cost of living in Oklahoma City were same as New York, then the per student cost in Oklahoma City would be slightly higher than New York City, using the per student cost in the chart.Has anyone noticed how none of the forum apologists for government brainwashing have responded to my chart showing no correlation between spending on education and graduation rates?
Why do you suppose that is?
Name some places then. Specifically. Show us how you get better teachers by paying them less and taking away their benefits and workplace protections, etc.
Show the actual examples.
Here's the irrefutable proof:
Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".
Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2
Why?
- Public Education is a Public Service Career.
- Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
- Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
- Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.
Sources:
True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)
"Bripat9643" expects us to see "no correlation between spending on education and graduation rates"It was the greed of these same bankers and executives, not America's unionized teachers, that triggered the financial meltdown from which the nation has yet to recover.
These 12 co-orprations are:
- ExxonMobil
- Chevron
- ConocoPhillips
- Valero
- Bank of america
- Citigroup
- Goldman Sachs
- Boeing
- FedEx
- CarnivalCruises
- Verizon
- General Electric[/b]
Most of those companies had nothing whatsoever to do with the financial meltdown. The ones that did were doing the government's bidding. That's why they got bailed out. Specifically: Bank of American, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs.
A poster refuted it.
You missed it.
He pointed out that it's more expensive to run a school in some parts of the nation.
I would love to know how much the unions drain out of the teachers salaries???
How many millions per county per year???
But they care about the kids???
Want to talk about greed???
But they don't have supplies for the kiddies??
They have fucking money to pay the unions, and money to strike...
Fucking posers...
Teacher union dues typical run in the range of $300 to a $1,000/yr. Depending on the union, there can be significant benefits other than supporting collective bargaining and contract enforcement in the form of additional insurance, discounts, assistance in lesson planning and curriculum design.I would love to know how much the unions drain out of the teachers salaries???
How many millions per county per year???
But they care about the kids???
Want to talk about greed???
But they don't have supplies for the kiddies??
They have fucking money to pay the unions, and money to strike...
Fucking posers...
