Planned Parenthood caught trafficking in human body parts

[idb]

"...abortion practitioner Caroline Hoke was accused of over-billing Medicaid an estimated $430,380 for mostly undocumented services. Hoke was the state’s fourth highest billing Medicaid physician, asking the taxpayers to fork over $3.9 million to her from 2009-2011 as she served as the Medical Director for Planned Parenthood of Illinois."

Planned Parenthood Must Pay 2 Million Settlement After Killing Woman in Abortion LifeNews.com

Whether true or not, what the hell does that have to do with the current issue. Can you do nothing more than throw dung at the wall and hope that something sticks?

Of course it's relevant, since the baby killers are in full cry declaring "Planned Parenthood doesn't do illegal stuff!!!"

Planned Parenthood doesn't do illegal stuff!!!"

Link to that quote?

What is with you guys demanding that people go back through the thread that YOU are participating in to link to statements YOU made.

That's my quote?!
Well, I'd better go back and find it then...stand by...

 

[Faun]

You're such an idiot, you possibly do think you bitch slap me.

Here's a perfect example.... you idiotically claimed PP is making no less than $10m a year on selling dead baby pieces.

A) that's insanely retarded as it relies on the notion that they're selling piece from every baby aborted.

B) that's unbelievably stupid since it's based on them having zero costs.

As usual, vagisil ... thanks for playing!

Well, IQ challenged, I went with the LOW valuation, the high valuation ismuch more $150 and up, so even with many less specimens, the rate of return is tremendous...You're so easy!

Too funny. Vagisil is sooo retarded, he has to change the parameters of his idiocy after being shown what a moron he is.

I see you have nothing...again! As always, you're my entertainment!

Nothing? I got you to tacitly admit your numbers were so stupid beyond belief, you had to change them.

Now you're reduced to deluding yourself, that's "nothing."

And that was just on (A) and (B). Now comes (C) and (D)...

C) Prove that PP is making a profit from this and that not all of their charges are to cover costs...

D) Explain the connection between advanced bioscience resources and PP...

More bullshit, from a quif bullshitter!

I like this....
Conservatives and pro-life activists have bemoaned the mainstream media’s lack of coverage of the ongoing video exposé of Planned Parenthood’s efforts to harvest the body parts of aborted fetuses for money. An examination of the organization’s surprisingly close ties to major media corporations can help explain why leading disseminators of the news in the U.S. have shown so little interest in the controversy.

Some media outlets were so brazen in their support for Planned Parenthood that they were directly listed as donors on the sites of local affiliates. Before PP’s website was “down for maintenance” shortly after the group controversially claimed it was hacked by “extremists,” the local Washington, D.C. affiliate listed Gannett, the owners of USA Today and several other major newspapers, including the Detroit Free Press and the Indianapolis Star, and the Washington Post Co., former owners of the Washington Post for decades until Amazon.com owner Jeff Bezos bought the newspaper in 2013, as financial supporters.

As recently as 2014, the San Jose Mercury News and Yahoo, which runs the popular Yahoo News site, were listed as donors to Planned Parenthood Shasta-Diablo in Northern California.

Discover the Networks, a website run by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, lists the New York Times Company Foundation as a PP donor.


And while there is no evidence that new Washington Post owner Bezos is a personal donor, customers at his Amazon.com site can directly support an abortion clinic with a portion of their purchases via the Amazon Smile program.

Customers can also buy the “emergency contraception” known as Plan B, which can induce an abortion after conception, directly from the site.

These facts perhaps explain why The Washington Post, in its coverage of the furor over the first secret Planned Parenthood video, changed its headline from “organ harvesting” to the softer “fetal organs used for research,” as infowars.com reports.

Another upfront supporter of Planned Parenthood is Bloomberg Philanthropies, the charitable arm of Bloomberg News owner and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.

The philanthropic group announced in March of 2014 that it was giving a staggering $50 million to strengthen “reproductive health rights in Burkina Faso, Nicaragua, Senegal, Tanzania, and Uganda,” the Daily Caller reports.

Beyond these overt acts of support, however, there lies a far more elaborate network of personal connections, business ties and charitable foundation links between Planned Parenthood and a stunning number of major media outlets, including all four of the major television networks.

The Ford Foundation has been a major supporter of abortion rights and Planned Parenthood for decades, with the data on its financial support of the organization running far too long to detail.

Random example: $2.5 million given to PP in 2013, according to Ford’s tax return (see page 523).

In fact, sitting on Ford’s Board of Trustees at this moment is none other than Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards.

The foundation has made a major effort to involve itself in U.S. media in recent years, even giving grants to the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post in 2012 as part of what it called “an investment in quality journalism.”

Ford also sponsored an NBC News report on “Poverty in America,” as foundation “Media Officer” Barbara Raab, a former “senior newswriter for NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams,” proudly reports on the group’s website.

An especially disturbing part of the foundation’s efforts to financially sponsor ostensibly neutral media outlets is the group’s hefty support for two minority journalist organizations.

The National Association of Black Journalists received $150,000 from Ford in 2013 for “media/content development,” while the National Association of Hispanic Journalists is listed as having received $100,000 in 2009.

Elsewhere on Ford’s website, an action plan to promote abortion rights in the United States by developing “national reproductive and sexual health policies and laws supported by regional and international standards” prominently features two prongs under the “Communications and Public Education” heading, a “National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health” and a “Black Women’s Health Imperative.”

Additionally, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s 2013 tax return shows only one group not directly associated with the organization’s usual business endeavors that received funds from the organization.

On page 64 is listed a $12,500 donation from PP to The National Association of Black Journalists, with the “purpose of grant or assistance” listed as “to support programs regarding reproductive health.”.....

Why News Corporations Protect Planned Parenthood - Crisis Magazine

None of that even begins to address my questions, vagisil.

Whassamatter? Too dumb to answer?

C) Prove that PP is making a profit from this and that not all of their charges are to cover costs...

D) Explain the connection between advanced bioscience resources and PP...

 

[idb]

Well, IQ challenged, I went with the LOW valuation, the high valuation ismuch more $150 and up, so even with many less specimens, the rate of return is tremendous...You're so easy!

Too funny. Vagisil is sooo retarded, he has to change the parameters of his idiocy after being shown what a moron he is.

I see you have nothing...again! As always, you're my entertainment!

Nothing? I got you to tacitly admit your numbers were so stupid beyond belief, you had to change them.

Now you're reduced to deluding yourself, that's "nothing."

And that was just on (A) and (B). Now comes (C) and (D)...

C) Prove that PP is making a profit from this and that not all of their charges are to cover costs...

D) Explain the connection between advanced bioscience resources and PP...

More bullshit, from a quif bullshitter!

I like this....
Conservatives and pro-life activists have bemoaned the mainstream media’s lack of coverage of the ongoing video exposé of Planned Parenthood’s efforts to harvest the body parts of aborted fetuses for money. An examination of the organization’s surprisingly close ties to major media corporations can help explain why leading disseminators of the news in the U.S. have shown so little interest in the controversy.

Some media outlets were so brazen in their support for Planned Parenthood that they were directly listed as donors on the sites of local affiliates. Before PP’s website was “down for maintenance” shortly after the group controversially claimed it was hacked by “extremists,” the local Washington, D.C. affiliate listed Gannett, the owners of USA Today and several other major newspapers, including the Detroit Free Press and the Indianapolis Star, and the Washington Post Co., former owners of the Washington Post for decades until Amazon.com owner Jeff Bezos bought the newspaper in 2013, as financial supporters.

As recently as 2014, the San Jose Mercury News and Yahoo, which runs the popular Yahoo News site, were listed as donors to Planned Parenthood Shasta-Diablo in Northern California.

Discover the Networks, a website run by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, lists the New York Times Company Foundation as a PP donor.


And while there is no evidence that new Washington Post owner Bezos is a personal donor, customers at his Amazon.com site can directly support an abortion clinic with a portion of their purchases via the Amazon Smile program.

Customers can also buy the “emergency contraception” known as Plan B, which can induce an abortion after conception, directly from the site.

These facts perhaps explain why The Washington Post, in its coverage of the furor over the first secret Planned Parenthood video, changed its headline from “organ harvesting” to the softer “fetal organs used for research,” as infowars.com reports.

Another upfront supporter of Planned Parenthood is Bloomberg Philanthropies, the charitable arm of Bloomberg News owner and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.

The philanthropic group announced in March of 2014 that it was giving a staggering $50 million to strengthen “reproductive health rights in Burkina Faso, Nicaragua, Senegal, Tanzania, and Uganda,” the Daily Caller reports.

Beyond these overt acts of support, however, there lies a far more elaborate network of personal connections, business ties and charitable foundation links between Planned Parenthood and a stunning number of major media outlets, including all four of the major television networks.

The Ford Foundation has been a major supporter of abortion rights and Planned Parenthood for decades, with the data on its financial support of the organization running far too long to detail.

Random example: $2.5 million given to PP in 2013, according to Ford’s tax return (see page 523).

In fact, sitting on Ford’s Board of Trustees at this moment is none other than Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards.

The foundation has made a major effort to involve itself in U.S. media in recent years, even giving grants to the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post in 2012 as part of what it called “an investment in quality journalism.”

Ford also sponsored an NBC News report on “Poverty in America,” as foundation “Media Officer” Barbara Raab, a former “senior newswriter for NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams,” proudly reports on the group’s website.

An especially disturbing part of the foundation’s efforts to financially sponsor ostensibly neutral media outlets is the group’s hefty support for two minority journalist organizations.

The National Association of Black Journalists received $150,000 from Ford in 2013 for “media/content development,” while the National Association of Hispanic Journalists is listed as having received $100,000 in 2009.

Elsewhere on Ford’s website, an action plan to promote abortion rights in the United States by developing “national reproductive and sexual health policies and laws supported by regional and international standards” prominently features two prongs under the “Communications and Public Education” heading, a “National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health” and a “Black Women’s Health Imperative.”

Additionally, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s 2013 tax return shows only one group not directly associated with the organization’s usual business endeavors that received funds from the organization.

On page 64 is listed a $12,500 donation from PP to The National Association of Black Journalists, with the “purpose of grant or assistance” listed as “to support programs regarding reproductive health.”.....

Why News Corporations Protect Planned Parenthood - Crisis Magazine

None of that even begins to address my questions, vagisil.

Whassamatter? Too dumb to answer?

C) Prove that PP is making a profit from this and that not all of their charges are to cover costs...

D) Explain the connection between advanced bioscience resources and PP...

To be fair...he did explain C).
Apparently PP gives no discount on bulk delivery of baby parts...that's where the BIG money is!

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Pore over vs. pour over
The phrase meaning to study carefully is pore over. It comes from a little-used sense of the verb pore—namely, to meditate deeply. In modern writing, this sense of pore rarely appears outside this phrase.

Pour over is of course a meaningful phrase in its own right, but it has nothing to do with studying. It’s what you do, for example, with milk to a bowl of cereal.

 

[koshergrl]

"If you are anti-Planned Parenthood, your children may not be vaccinated! Punish the non-believers!"

So, you've changed your position in one post?

I see your pea sized brain can't handle 2 thoughts on the same subject as most moronic baby killer can't! Now tell us, what medical miracle has come out of USED BABY PARTS over the last decade, that we know of, PP has been selling off and making HUGE PROFITS from these body parts.....330,000 DEAD BABY a year. makes TONS of $30-$50 human baby parts!

It's not hard to find medical treatments...sorry, I forgot who I'm talking to, I meant to address you in words you understand...I mean "flavour enhancers" that have been researched and developed using fetal tissue.

Vaccines have been one of the chief public benefits of fetal tissue research. Vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies, for example, were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from two elective abortions, one in England and one in Sweden, that were performed in the 1960s.

German measles, also known as rubella, “caused 5,000 spontaneous abortions a year prior to the vaccine,” said Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious-disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “We wouldn’t have saved all those lives had it not been for those cells.”

Fetal tissue was “absolutely critical” to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH, which last year handed out $76 million for work involving fetal tissue, or 0.2 percent of the agency’s research budget.

Scientists say fetal tissue remains essential for vaccines and developing treatments

Ah...a non-biased PBS article about how we need to kill babies..to save babies.

You realize that is EXACTLY the same argument the Nazis used to justify killing innocents, right?

No. I didn't know that.
I'd love some quotes...it might change my mind.

"The Aktion T4 programme used the term 'euthanasia' as bureaucratic cover and in the minimal public relations efforts (see poster) to invest what was essentially an outgrowth of eugenics with greater medical legitimacy.[17] It is however clear that little, if any, of the killing was done to alleviate pain or suffering on the part of the victims. Rather, the bulk of the evidence — including faked death certificates, deception of the victims and of the victims' families, and widespread use of cremation — indicates the killing was done solely according to the socio-political aims and beliefs of the perpetrators.[17]"

Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Asclepias]

We need Charleton Heston more than ever. This is appalling.

Fetal Parts Sold for Scientific Research on Cosmetics Flavor Enhancers - Aleteia

What a dumbass!

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

I'm not going to rehash the scientific and medical facts yet again in this post (or maybe it was another post, but who cares) when it is clear /you/ made up your mind on how it "should be" based upon /your personal/ beliefs. Go hunt out my previous many many posts on this subject if you want to evidence any curiosity about what I base my beliefs on.

Bottom line is that my beliefs differ from yours and you are not automatically right because you say so. Neither am I, which is why I said, change the law, don't lie about it.

The court happens to believe /my/ opinion is right at this time. If they change that opinion then so be it, but they're sure as fuck not going to do so based on videos that they've already ruled were /lies/ - that would be why they fucking banned putting anymore out.

Welcome to America, where the majority and law rule, not /your/ feelings alone. Yes?

Lying baby killer....the majority despises PP and the abortion game, and the courts did not "rule" that the videos were lies.

Lying to protect the sacred right of infanticide and abuse of women. You are a stellar person indeed....

Further more, you aren't going to *rehash* the science and the fact because the science and the facts don't support the disgusting practice. Science and facts work against you, so I can understand your reluctance to *rehash* what never existed in the first place. At least not on your side.

Whoooa! I directed you to my post which clearly refutes this "baby killer for profit horseshit" and you responded to me that you are not interested enough to look. THEN...you post this! There is something wrong with this picture! What is wrong with you?!!

I don't see a post of yours in the quote you posted.

I will be glad to let you tell my your lies about why planned parenthood is not selling fetal organ tissue.

Where is that defense??

Let's get the party started, I will not repeat anything and the first to sling an ad hominem is the looser.

Whenever you get ready ball is in your court.

When asked a question, ignoring or refusing to answer that question will be a point against you.

Clean and fair if you are intelligent enough to make your points and refute mine.

No weasling, no hiding, first lie you are caught bold face in, you loose.

How big are your balls bitch??

 

[koshergrl]

"The idea of sterilising those carrying hereditary defects or exhibiting what was thought to be hereditary antisocial behaviour was widely accepted. The United States, Sweden, Switzerland and other countries also passed laws authorizing sterilization of certain classes of people."

So what they did was shut down the Catholic institutions, because they knew they would not comply with killing off the residents. Then when everybody was shoved into squalid and deplorable living conditions, they claimed that the misery of the patients justified killing them.

"During the 1930s the Nazi Party carried out a campaign of propaganda in favour of "euthanasia". The National Socialist Racial and Political Office (NSRPA) produced leaflets, posters and short films to be shown in cinemas, pointing out to Germans the cost of maintaining asylums for the incurably ill and insane. These films included The Inheritance (Das Erbe, 1935), The Victim of the Past (Opfer der Vergangenheit, 1937), which was given a major premiere in Berlin and was shown in all German cinemas, and I Accuse (Ich klage an, 1941), which was based on a novel by Dr Hellmuth Unger, a consultant for the child 'euthanasia' program.[38] Catholic institutions, which could be expected to resist the killing of their patients, were progressively closed and their inmates transferred to already-overcrowded state institutions. There the squalid conditions provided further ammunition for campaigns in favour of 'euthanasia'"


Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[koshergrl]

Pore over vs. pour over
The phrase meaning to study carefully is pore over. It comes from a little-used sense of the verb pore—namely, to meditate deeply. In modern writing, this sense of pore rarely appears outside this phrase.

Pour over is of course a meaningful phrase in its own right, but it has nothing to do with studying. It’s what you do, for example, with milk to a bowl of cereal.

Did I bamboozle somebody with my extensive vocabulary? If I did, it's someone I already have on ignore..because I have heretofore recognized their idiocy.

 

[idb]

So, you've changed your position in one post?

I see your pea sized brain can't handle 2 thoughts on the same subject as most moronic baby killer can't! Now tell us, what medical miracle has come out of USED BABY PARTS over the last decade, that we know of, PP has been selling off and making HUGE PROFITS from these body parts.....330,000 DEAD BABY a year. makes TONS of $30-$50 human baby parts!

It's not hard to find medical treatments...sorry, I forgot who I'm talking to, I meant to address you in words you understand...I mean "flavour enhancers" that have been researched and developed using fetal tissue.

Vaccines have been one of the chief public benefits of fetal tissue research. Vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies, for example, were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from two elective abortions, one in England and one in Sweden, that were performed in the 1960s.

German measles, also known as rubella, “caused 5,000 spontaneous abortions a year prior to the vaccine,” said Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious-disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “We wouldn’t have saved all those lives had it not been for those cells.”

Fetal tissue was “absolutely critical” to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH, which last year handed out $76 million for work involving fetal tissue, or 0.2 percent of the agency’s research budget.

Scientists say fetal tissue remains essential for vaccines and developing treatments

Ah...a non-biased PBS article about how we need to kill babies..to save babies.

You realize that is EXACTLY the same argument the Nazis used to justify killing innocents, right?

No. I didn't know that.
I'd love some quotes...it might change my mind.

"The Aktion T4 programme used the term 'euthanasia' as bureaucratic cover and in the minimal public relations efforts (see poster) to invest what was essentially an outgrowth of eugenics with greater medical legitimacy.[17] It is however clear that little, if any, of the killing was done to alleviate pain or suffering on the part of the victims. Rather, the bulk of the evidence — including faked death certificates, deception of the victims and of the victims' families, and widespread use of cremation — indicates the killing was done solely according to the socio-political aims and beliefs of the perpetrators.[17]"

Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

 

[idb]

"The idea of sterilising those carrying hereditary defects or exhibiting what was thought to be hereditary antisocial behaviour was widely accepted. The United States, Sweden, Switzerland and other countries also passed laws authorizing sterilization of certain classes of people."

So what they did was shut down the Catholic institutions, because they knew they would not comply with killing off the residents. Then when everybody was shoved into squalid and deplorable living conditions, they claimed that the misery of the patients justified killing them.

"During the 1930s the Nazi Party carried out a campaign of propaganda in favour of "euthanasia". The National Socialist Racial and Political Office (NSRPA) produced leaflets, posters and short films to be shown in cinemas, pointing out to Germans the cost of maintaining asylums for the incurably ill and insane. These films included The Inheritance (Das Erbe, 1935), The Victim of the Past (Opfer der Vergangenheit, 1937), which was given a major premiere in Berlin and was shown in all German cinemas, and I Accuse (Ich klage an, 1941), which was based on a novel by Dr Hellmuth Unger, a consultant for the child 'euthanasia' program.[38] Catholic institutions, which could be expected to resist the killing of their patients, were progressively closed and their inmates transferred to already-overcrowded state institutions. There the squalid conditions provided further ammunition for campaigns in favour of 'euthanasia'"


Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Terrible!

 

[koshergrl]

I see your pea sized brain can't handle 2 thoughts on the same subject as most moronic baby killer can't! Now tell us, what medical miracle has come out of USED BABY PARTS over the last decade, that we know of, PP has been selling off and making HUGE PROFITS from these body parts.....330,000 DEAD BABY a year. makes TONS of $30-$50 human baby parts!

It's not hard to find medical treatments...sorry, I forgot who I'm talking to, I meant to address you in words you understand...I mean "flavour enhancers" that have been researched and developed using fetal tissue.

Vaccines have been one of the chief public benefits of fetal tissue research. Vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies, for example, were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from two elective abortions, one in England and one in Sweden, that were performed in the 1960s.

German measles, also known as rubella, “caused 5,000 spontaneous abortions a year prior to the vaccine,” said Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious-disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “We wouldn’t have saved all those lives had it not been for those cells.”

Fetal tissue was “absolutely critical” to the development of a potential Ebola vaccine that has shown promise, said Dr. Carrie Wolinetz, an associate director at NIH, which last year handed out $76 million for work involving fetal tissue, or 0.2 percent of the agency’s research budget.

Scientists say fetal tissue remains essential for vaccines and developing treatments

Ah...a non-biased PBS article about how we need to kill babies..to save babies.

You realize that is EXACTLY the same argument the Nazis used to justify killing innocents, right?

No. I didn't know that.
I'd love some quotes...it might change my mind.

"The Aktion T4 programme used the term 'euthanasia' as bureaucratic cover and in the minimal public relations efforts (see poster) to invest what was essentially an outgrowth of eugenics with greater medical legitimacy.[17] It is however clear that little, if any, of the killing was done to alleviate pain or suffering on the part of the victims. Rather, the bulk of the evidence — including faked death certificates, deception of the victims and of the victims' families, and widespread use of cremation — indicates the killing was done solely according to the socio-political aims and beliefs of the perpetrators.[17]"

Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

No, you retard. I am saying that Nazis of the third Reich, like progressives today, worked hard to convince people that killing certain groups was merciful and ultimately saved lives. They, like progressives of today, were just depraved liars who loved to kill the vulnerable and weak. It made them feel superior....as it makes progressives today feel superior.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

You seem to think you have a lock on this subject, how about an intelligence test?

The tissue being sold by planned parenthood falls into which category "embryonic" or "tissue specific"??

It is important to the remainder of your schooling so please be sure and answer, not dodge the question.

Hurry up, I don't have time to wait for you to self teach through Google.

 

[HenryBHough]

In some states might it be possible that these sales are not just an offense against humanity but also are not paying appropriate sales taxes?

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

In some states might it be possible that these sales are not just an offense against humanity but also are not paying appropriate sales taxes?

The recovery of cost is non taxable.

Selling fetal tissue is illegal.

Would that be like a marijuana tax??

 

[Faun]

In some states might it be possible that these sales are not just an offense against humanity but also are not paying appropriate sales taxes?

The recovery of cost is non taxable.

Selling fetal tissue is illegal.

Would that be like a marijuana tax??

Well then it's a good thing PP was selling fetal tissue. Whew.

 

[idb]

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

You seem to think you have a lock on this subject, how about an intelligence test?

The tissue being sold by planned parenthood falls into which category "embryonic" or "tissue specific"??

It is important to the remainder of your schooling so please be sure and answer, not dodge the question.

Hurry up, I don't have time to wait for you to self teach through Google.

Neither.
You can't trick me that easily you tricky guy.

 

[idb]

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

You seem to think you have a lock on this subject, how about an intelligence test?

The tissue being sold by planned parenthood falls into which category "embryonic" or "tissue specific"??

It is important to the remainder of your schooling so please be sure and answer, not dodge the question.

Hurry up, I don't have time to wait for you to self teach through Google.

I am interested though to know what makes that an intelligence test.
Does you not knowing what street I live on make you unintelligent?

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

You seem to think you have a lock on this subject, how about an intelligence test?

The tissue being sold by planned parenthood falls into which category "embryonic" or "tissue specific"??

It is important to the remainder of your schooling so please be sure and answer, not dodge the question.

Hurry up, I don't have time to wait for you to self teach through Google.

Neither.
You can't trick me that easily you tricky guy.

Sure you are clueless, no tricks you just too stupid to intelligently discuss the subject retard boy.

It is tissue specific, now tissue specific means it develops into a specific organ which would be termed by all legal definitions a body part.

Take your stupid Bull Shit else where, was no trick, just a simple means to prove how fucking stupid you are.

Selling of body parts is illegal, fucking moron.

 

[idb]

It's not hard to find medical treatments...sorry, I forgot who I'm talking to, I meant to address you in words you understand...I mean "flavour enhancers" that have been researched and developed using fetal tissue.
Scientists say fetal tissue remains essential for vaccines and developing treatments

Ah...a non-biased PBS article about how we need to kill babies..to save babies.

You realize that is EXACTLY the same argument the Nazis used to justify killing innocents, right?

No. I didn't know that.
I'd love some quotes...it might change my mind.

"The Aktion T4 programme used the term 'euthanasia' as bureaucratic cover and in the minimal public relations efforts (see poster) to invest what was essentially an outgrowth of eugenics with greater medical legitimacy.[17] It is however clear that little, if any, of the killing was done to alleviate pain or suffering on the part of the victims. Rather, the bulk of the evidence — including faked death certificates, deception of the victims and of the victims' families, and widespread use of cremation — indicates the killing was done solely according to the socio-political aims and beliefs of the perpetrators.[17]"

Action T4 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Are you saying that the "socio-political aims and beliefs" of the Nazis was to save babies?
Are you defending the Nazis as the saviours of babies now?
I've heard some excellent attempts at historical revision in my time but that might just take the cake.

No, you retard. I am saying that Nazis of the third Reich, like progressives today, worked hard to convince people that killing certain groups was merciful and ultimately saved lives. They, like progressives of today, were just depraved liars who loved to kill the vulnerable and weak. It made them feel superior....as it makes progressives today feel superior.

So, Hitler apologist...just what are the certain groups that progressives work hard to convince...blah...blah...blither?