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Study: Dementia care costs more than cancer, heart disease - Apr. 4, 2013

Put your bias aside and consider the micro cost (to a family) and the macro cost (to the nation) for the care and treatment of those who suffer these maladies.

We hear often that the GOP's intent is to repeal Obamacare. Now, few of us understand the ACA details but many of us have watched our costs for health care grow every year for decades.

We know the cost to care for this set of disease is immense and yet research into the causes and treatment has been cut 5% do to the sequester; the vast majority of our citizens believe the Congress is broken.

Does anyone know what the GOP's plan for health care is if they are able to repeal Obamacare? And how will such a plan - if it exists - effect you, your family and your local government?
 
Holder and Obama suffer dementia, that's why they don't know what's going on around them
 
They should eat more coconut oil. :)

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...dientId=1092&activeIngredientName=coconut oil

There is the school thought that wants to give everyone equal access to the $500 band-aid, whether they need it or not, whether they can afford it or not.

There is a school thought that questions why that band-aid is valued at $500. Why do we assume that the costs have any relation to the expense of making them available? We have Administrators making decisions that should be between the Patient and Doctor. We punish Doctors for going against the current. Why is that? Why should we not expect more layers of Bureaucracy to increase cost? We should be simplifying the process, streamlining it, not obstructing treatment and charging more for doing less. Just a thought.
 
The democrat plan is simple. A competent person would request euthanasia rather than spend all that money on care for an incompetent. Anyone who doesn't request euthanasia is automatically incompetent to make that decision and the state must make the decision for them.
 
They should eat more coconut oil. :)

coconut oil: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD

There is the school thought that wants to give everyone equal access to the $500 band-aid, whether they need it or not, whether they can afford it or not.

There is a school thought that questions why that band-aid is valued at $500. Why do we assume that the costs have any relation to the expense of making them available? We have Administrators making decisions that should be between the Patient and Doctor. We punish Doctors for going against the current. Why is that? Why should we not expect more layers of Bureaucracy to increase cost? We should be simplifying the process, streamlining it, not obstructing treatment and charging more for doing less. Just a thought.

I suggest you read Time Magazine special report, "Why Medical Bills are Killing Us" issued early this year. Particular attention is paid to "how outrageous pricing (see "Chargemaster) and egregious profits are destroying health care", by Steven Brill.

The propaganda by those who make the egregious profits has taken all intelligent debate out of the issue of health care reform and stupid assholes like the CrusaderFrank continue to parrot the hate and fear of special interests.
 
The democrat plan is simple. A competent person would request euthanasia rather than spend all that money on care for an incompetent. Anyone who doesn't request euthanasia is automatically incompetent to make that decision and the state must make the decision for them.

You really are stupid.

For the non stupid and curious read the Special Report noted above.
 
From the Article:

SEAN RECCHI
"Diagnosed with non-Hodgkins's lymphoma at age 42, total cost, in advance, for Sean's treatment initial doses of chemotherapy: $83,000. Charges for blood and labe tests amounted to more than $15,000; with Medicare, they would have cost a few hundered dollars."

One example of many listed in the article.
 
With Medicare, he likely would not have gotten the treatment at all. Saving literally thousands of dollars.

Medicare would have said "We will pay $30,000 for all chemotherapy treatments". The provider would say "It costs me more than that just for the medication. I can't afford to provide chemotherapy at a loss."

Medicare says "We just saved $83,000.00"
 
rw'er responses here are a tad on the bitter side. Elections over people & Obamacare IS, as Boehner (R) stated- "The law of the land" :)

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The really sad/annoying thing is the RWers are too stupid and/or too scared to examine what was and what is. Though they deny it, there every complaint is framed in words first issued by the Propagandists - Limbaugh, Hannity and other 'conservative' broadcasters, as well as politicians. Conservatives in single quotes because they are entirely self serving individuals whose only allegiance is to their bank account and celebrity.
 
With Medicare, he likely would not have gotten the treatment at all. Saving literally thousands of dollars.

Medicare would have said "We will pay $30,000 for all chemotherapy treatments". The provider would say "It costs me more than that just for the medication. I can't afford to provide chemotherapy at a loss."

Medicare says "We just saved $83,000.00"

You have no clue as to actual costs nor any understanding of the Chargemaster system. Everyone will be treated in the United States, the costs born by local government. I'd suggest reading the article in Time but you've proven to be as dumb as CrusaderFrank (in other words, as a box of rocks) so I won't bother.
 
EMILIA GILBERT
Slipped and fell in June 2008 and was taken to the Emergency Room. She is still paying off the $9,418 bill from the hospital visit in weekly installments. Her three CT scans cost her $6,538. Medicare would have paid about $825 for all three.
 
Republicans have always been welcomed to repeal the ACA provided they immediately replace it with something that ensures every American is covered with health insurance and health costs are addressed.
 
Study: Dementia care costs more than cancer, heart disease - Apr. 4, 2013

Put your bias aside and consider the micro cost (to a family) and the macro cost (to the nation) for the care and treatment of those who suffer these maladies.

We hear often that the GOP's intent is to repeal Obamacare. Now, few of us understand the ACA details but many of us have watched our costs for health care grow every year for decades.

We know the cost to care for this set of disease is immense and yet research into the causes and treatment has been cut 5% do to the sequester; the vast majority of our citizens believe the Congress is broken.

Does anyone know what the GOP's plan for health care is if they are able to repeal Obamacare? And how will such a plan - if it exists - effect you, your family and your local government?

No.

There is no "plan". White trash don't plan. That would take critical thinking.

The white trash world is a halflit dystopia of disappointment in which reaction is the primary operations mode for everything bigger than a child's birthday party, fear and resentment are the primary emotions beyond the front door, and religion represents the ultimate lottery - and, hilariously, among the "us" element is the moral hidey hole for epic fails in every direction, while providing the basis for loathing the "them" element.

Okay, maybe the last couple of clauses are more pathetic than hilarious. One's feelings can be mixed.
 
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Study: Dementia care costs more than cancer, heart disease - Apr. 4, 2013

Put your bias aside and consider the micro cost (to a family) and the macro cost (to the nation) for the care and treatment of those who suffer these maladies.

We hear often that the GOP's intent is to repeal Obamacare. Now, few of us understand the ACA details but many of us have watched our costs for health care grow every year for decades.

We know the cost to care for this set of disease is immense and yet research into the causes and treatment has been cut 5% do to the sequester; the vast majority of our citizens believe the Congress is broken.

Does anyone know what the GOP's plan for health care is if they are able to repeal Obamacare? And how will such a plan - if it exists - effect you, your family and your local government?

No.

There is no "plan". White trash don't plan. That would take critical thinking.

The white trash world is a halflit dystopia of disappointment in which reaction is the primary operations mode for everything bigger than a child's birthday party, fear and resentment are the primary emotions beyond the front door, and religion represents the ultimate lottery - and, hilariously, among the "us" element is the moral hidey hole for epic fails in every direction, while providing the basis for loathing the "them" element.

Okay, maybe the last couple of clauses are more pathetic than hilarious. One's feelings can be mixed.

you just described Katzndogz ;)

As to the OP, FRANK!!! why do you insist on telling insurance companies, whose rates were rising at 3X the rate of inflation and had you by the short hairs, to pull harder? :dunno: Stop being so cravenly partisan :eusa_hand:
 
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