Pocahontas is Delusional, Says Unions Will Make a Comeback

[Care4all]

Back when you all claim that America Was Great, unions were a dime a dozen.....

How can you Make America Great AGAIN, without them?

So your assertation is thst America was only great with them.

You know how stupid people look when their thoughts are ALWAYS 100% the opposite of those they hate?

Pretty fucking stupid.

I never said or made that assertion that is was ONLY,

YOU DID.

and then you go on to say how stupid people are....

 

[NightFox]

Why do conservatives favor billionaires over their fellow working man? Must you always be slaves to your big biz masters ?

Do you believe Right to Work States should be forced to Unionize?

if they want to receive Union Benefits and pay, I have no problem with it.

One of the major issues with private sector unions is that they stopped providing an attractive value proposition to their memberships and thus their memberships had no reason to continue to pay for them. Many private sector unions became focused solely on lining the pockets of the union leadership and their patrons and lost sight of looking out for the best interests of the members and they got punished accordingly, essentially they became nothing more than vampires sucking the blood out of their members.

If they want to make a "comeback" then they better get their shit together and realize that unless they provide an attractive value proposition workers DON'T NEED THEM and workers DON'T WANT THEM.

 

[NoVote]

Back in the day, Unions were needed, not good, but needed, to keep company pukes from exploiting the workers criminally. Today, there are government laws that do the same, and it costs the worker nothing. In all honesty, I was in many unions from 1966 til 2000 or so and I never saw a union shopee do squat against an employer to protect any worker. They were on the wrong side. Any surprise? [Meaning bought off]

 

[Flash]

By the way Moon Bats who plan to vote for that idiot Pocahontas, she is a moron.

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Indeed she is but the real tragedy is she's the brightest bulb the Democrat Socialist Party has to offer. Very sad.

This is the stupid bitch that these confused Moon Bats will think will make a Jim Dandy President. Then they wonder why we ridicule them so much.

Typical Democrat. At a time the country is tacking right they veer hard left.

Democrats are too far left to win Middle America

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The "brightest the Democrats have" is pretty dim.

 

[deanrd]

Why do conservatives favor billionaires over their fellow working man? Must you always be slaves to your big biz masters ?

You are confused Moon Bat.

Billionaires pay tons of taxes and creates millions of jobs. Union pukes run up the cost of goods and services with their greedy bloated wages and inefficient work ethics.

Why do you stupid Libtards prefer collectivism over personal liberty? You think humans are goddamn ants or something? You idiot Moon Bats are slaves to big government.

Unions are vile greedy corrupt socialist shithead organizations. Piss on them.

The asshole corrupt Union bosses want the rank and file Union workers to vote for Democrats but many of the Union workers (who were forced to joining the Union by oppressive laws in the anti right to work states) will vote for Trump.

 

[Care4all]

If they want to make a "comeback" then they better get their shit together and realize that unless they provide an attractive value proposition workers DON'T NEED THEM and workers DON'T WANT THEM.

I agree!

 

[deanrd]

Pocahontas is an American folk hero to Native Americans. For a right winger to use her name to slander somebody is racist. It’s a terrible thing to do.
Republicans don’t understand this because they believe education is bad for America. Especially cult members. Cult members never want to hear what’s right.

 

[Rustic]

Greedy bastards got what they deserved.

<<“Unions built the middle class—and unions will rebuild the middle class,” Warren wrote. “If we want more good American jobs, then we need stronger unions and more power in the hands of the people.”>>

Elizabeth Warren: 'Unions Will Rebuild America’s Middle Class'

Unions...

 

[NightFox]

If they want to make a "comeback" then they better get their shit together and realize that unless they provide an attractive value proposition workers DON'T NEED THEM and workers DON'T WANT THEM.

I agree!

Cool, so let's give up on the romantic notions of unions past and look at what the successful private sector unions of today are doing because you'll quickly notice that the successful unions of today bear almost no resemblance to the unions of the past, the days of Walter Reuther and Jimmy Hoffa and their confrontational approach to business management are LONG gone (good riddance).

In fact, the successful unions of today look a lot more like corporations than unions and they're focused on providing direct benefits to their members instead of simply extracting more from their employers for a fee.

 

[OldLady]

Back in the day, Unions were needed, not good, but needed, to keep company pukes from exploiting the workers criminally. Today, there are government laws that do the same, and it costs the worker nothing. In all honesty, I was in many unions from 1966 til 2000 or so and I never saw a union shopee do squat against an employer to protect any worker. They were on the wrong side. Any surprise? [Meaning bought off]

Best pay and benefits I've ever gotten were when I was in unions. It's true they were slow to react when we had a grievance, but there's no question they had negotiated decent pay and good benefits, like retirement (who has that any more?) and good health insurance.

 

[SAYIT]

Not surprising. They're always fantasizing about cuba and the 1950s.

Just as our commies compare pristine, theoretical Marxism to messy, functional capitalism, our lefties often wax wistfully about the "golden era" of American unionism (1945-1970). They invariably do not mention (or do not know) that our post-WW2 economy was the only industrial game in town … that our global competition had been destroyed. It was so prosperous a time for us even inefficiencies could thrive but by 1970 our sloppiness and hubris began costing us market share as the rest of the world caught up and even surpassed our competitiveness.

 

[SAYIT]

Back when you all claim that America Was Great, unions were a dime a dozen.....
How can you Make America Great AGAIN, without them?

Unions are not the only path to American prosperity and greatness, Comrade C.

They had their day in the sun and served their purpose but like the iceman they are pretty much just tits on a bull (market) these days … they just hang there and no one cares.

 

[NoVote]

Best pay and benefits I've ever gotten were when I was in unions.

No question about the pay. Original Unions were to protect workers lives, so they didn't get sucked into rug weaving machines and the like, or made to drive trucks for 18 hours at a time. But by the 60's, shop stewards were sucking up to bosses and had lost their way as far as enforcing the petty tyrant floor bosses. It's the little things that makes a workers life a hell.

 

[Care4all]

Back when you all claim that America Was Great, unions were a dime a dozen.....
How can you Make America Great AGAIN, without them?

Unions are not the only path to American prosperity and greatness, Comrade C.

They had their day in the sun and served their purpose but like the iceman they are pretty much just tits on a bull (market) these days … they just hang there and no one cares.

I did not say ONLY,

But they were definitely a part of why workers were paid better and they had a decent middle class life!

Non unions were also forced to pay better, their nonunion workers, to compete for good workers.... even back in the late 90's, the corporation I worked for, who had no workers in the corporate office that were Union, compared our jobs to those of Union workers in similar jobs, management included, to see if they were paying enough for their employees, to compete with Union pay and benefits.... of course this was Massachusetts, where unions were still a dime a dozen, even in the 9o's!

 

[NoVote]

Unions did much more than get workers good pay. Union workers were trained by the unions to do the job safely and better and faster.

 

[OldLady]

Not surprising. They're always fantasizing about cuba and the 1950s.

Just as our commies compare pristine, theoretical Marxism to messy, functional capitalism, our lefties often wax wistfully about the "golden era" of American unionism (1945-1970). They invariably do not mention (or do not know) that our post-WW2 economy was the only industrial game in town … that our global competition had been destroyed. It was so prosperous a time for us even inefficiencies could thrive but by 1970 our sloppiness and hubris began costing us market share as the rest of the world caught up and even surpassed our competitiveness.

The golden days when a man could feed a family of four and have a little home with a white picket fence without anything but a high school diploma are gone. Those years were the exception to the rule that unskilled labor has never before or since been able to provide such a high living standard. We are going through the pain of adjusting our expectations back down to a reasonable level, at the same time that technology is changing the entire face of production.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Not surprising. They're always fantasizing about cuba and the 1950s.

Just as our commies compare pristine, theoretical Marxism to messy, functional capitalism, our lefties often wax wistfully about the "golden era" of American unionism (1945-1970). They invariably do not mention (or do not know) that our post-WW2 economy was the only industrial game in town … that our global competition had been destroyed. It was so prosperous a time for us even inefficiencies could thrive but by 1970 our sloppiness and hubris began costing us market share as the rest of the world caught up and even surpassed our competitiveness.

The golden days when a man could feed a family of four and have a little home with a white picket fence without anything but a high school diploma are gone. Those years were the exception to the rule that unskilled labor has never before or since been able to provide such a high living standard. We are going through the pain of adjusting our expectations back down to a reasonable level, at the same time that technology is changing the entire face of production.

Humans--1950
AI/Robots-2025

 

[NoVote]

The golden days when a man could feed a family of four and have a little home with a white picket fence without anything but a high school diploma are gone.

Where do you live, New York City? Get out to the midwest, life is still real here.

 

[SAYIT]

Not surprising. They're always fantasizing about cuba and the 1950s.

Just as our commies compare pristine, theoretical Marxism to messy, functional capitalism, our lefties often wax wistfully about the "golden era" of American unionism (1945-1970). They invariably do not mention (or do not know) that our post-WW2 economy was the only industrial game in town … that our global competition had been destroyed. It was so prosperous a time for us even inefficiencies could thrive but by 1970 our sloppiness and hubris began costing us market share as the rest of the world caught up and even surpassed our competitiveness.

The golden days when a man could feed a family of four and have a little home with a white picket fence without anything but a high school diploma are gone. Those years were the exception to the rule that unskilled labor has never before or since been able to provide such a high living standard. We are going through the pain of adjusting our expectations back down to a reasonable level, at the same time that technology is changing the entire face of production.

Yeah, much of our manufacturing was lost as other countries could produce without the added layer of unionism we developed. Even our union members bought foreign goods. That is how free markets are supposed to operate but the simple, 1950s have given way to a world of far more options and "necessities."

We now spend as much or more on monthly phone service as we did on the mortgage for that "little home with a white picket fence."

Much as the value of unions diminished so has that of many college degrees, and cultural acceptance of specific job training rather than 4 yrs of college should rebalance that scale. Employers need more workers who actually can do than those who think they can.

 

[Jets]

From the link:

It is true that Warren has been one of the most outspoken supporters of the labor movement, despite membership declining across the board. It has dipped from 12.3 percent participation to 10.5 percent over the last decade, according to Illinois Public Media.


Sen Warren knows unions are not making a comeback. Its campaign rhetoric for suckers.