Police departments are crashing in cops

[Donald H]

The political right's answer for everything is to eliminate standards, licenses, qualifications, and any other measures being taken to protect the people from abuses that can do harm.

It's their openly declared agenda!
They see great danger in the slightest compromise.

While the great danger is already upon them as they proclaim that America is literally a shithole of failure.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The concept of the federal government taking over local police departments has been discussed in the past. The following article was written back in 2011 and even back then this idea was Under consideration.

The federalization of local law enforcement

Though a rapid transition to a federalized police force is unlikely here in America, an incremental shift to greater federal control is already occurring

www.police1.com

I see an incremental take over of the 18,000 police forces in our nations beginning with setting standards for training and procedures for all police departments.

It would be very difficult for the federal government to just take over all policimg just as it is nearly impossible to ban and confiscate all civilian owned firearms.

In such situations the democrats prefer to use the incremental approach to move toward their final goal. With guns it is to ban “assault weapons” than all semi-automatic firearms including pistols and then all handguns. Federalization of local police would follow a similar path.

Hopefully neither draconian gun control or federalization of all police departments will occur. However we now live in a batshit crazy world so it is hard to say for sure what can happen.

The resistance against federalization of police is resistance against Canada's recipe for success with our Mounties. Not the best in the world but not far from it.

America is suffering from a fatally flawed union of the states because of the needed compromises with the South. The question of the south's right to keep slaves was never completely resolved and hence it lives on in a racism issue that's quite unsolvable.

The attempt to allow more renegade city or state police forces is the extremist right's answer to the problem, while a higher federal standard would serve to at least address the racism problem and begin to fix the problem.

Of course America is a long way from accepting anything that could end the south's determination to regard black or brown people as equals to whites.

The US south's issue is so important to them that it's destroying America's democracy. Fascism, secession, or other destructive extremes have become the extreme right's battle cry.

And murder by their police is their only answer to solving the problems!

The south isn't having nearly the problems with blacks that Democrat cities in the north have. Minneapolis isn't exactly Dixie.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The left finally has a success. Police reforms have brought 71 people in New York shot this weekend. You go commies.

 

[Likkmee]

No new recruits. Young guys are joining the military. Less chance of armed conflict

 

[Donald H]

The south isn't having nearly the problems with blacks that Democrat cities in the north have. Minneapolis isn't exactly Dixie.

Failure or success, the distinction is a moot point to me. It's America's success or failure so it's all good.

There's not a good word spoken about your country by the political right. It's all the equivalent of proclaiming America to be shithole of failures.

 

[BS Filter]

Doctors have their MD.. They still have to be licensed by the state. Lawyers still have to be licensed by their state just like hairressers and nurses and truckdrivers..

Okay, but answer the question: What good what it do? After you pass the police academy you get a license. It doesn't change a thing.

Its about standards. A person with a JD still has to pass the state boards and can be censured or disbarred for bad behavior or unethical practices.

A hairdresser can lose her license for failure to practice standards of safety or hygiene..

Sexist post. What about all the male hairdressers?

 

[B. Kidd]

NYPD has 5300 retired and/or in the process of retiring and 900 new recruits. Nothing can go wrong there, right?

 

[Polishprince]

Doctors have their MD.. They still have to be licensed by the state. Lawyers still have to be licensed by their state just like hairressers and nurses and truckdrivers..

Okay, but answer the question: What good what it do? After you pass the police academy you get a license. It doesn't change a thing.

Its about standards. A person with a JD still has to pass the state boards and can be censured or disbarred for bad behavior or unethical practices.

A hairdresser can lose her license for failure to practice standards of safety or hygiene..

Sexist post. What about all the male hairdressers?

The vast majority of biological males working as beauticians are girly men. The pronoun "she" is appropriate.

 

[BS Filter]

Doctors have their MD.. They still have to be licensed by the state. Lawyers still have to be licensed by their state just like hairressers and nurses and truckdrivers..

Okay, but answer the question: What good what it do? After you pass the police academy you get a license. It doesn't change a thing.

Its about standards. A person with a JD still has to pass the state boards and can be censured or disbarred for bad behavior or unethical practices.

A hairdresser can lose her license for failure to practice standards of safety or hygiene..

Sexist post. What about all the male hairdressers?

The vast majority of biological males working as beauticians are girly men. The pronoun "she" is appropriate.

Chicks with dicks.

 

[surada]

Doctors have their MD.. They still have to be licensed by the state. Lawyers still have to be licensed by their state just like hairressers and nurses and truckdrivers..

Okay, but answer the question: What good what it do? After you pass the police academy you get a license. It doesn't change a thing.

Its about standards. A person with a JD still has to pass the state boards and can be censured or disbarred for bad behavior or unethical practices.

A hairdresser can lose her license for failure to practice standards of safety or hygiene..

Sexist post. What about all the male hairdressers?

The vast majority of biological males working as beauticians are girly men. The pronoun "she" is appropriate.

I know some VERY successful male hairdressers who own multiple high end, prestige shops and they aren't "girly"..

 

[Godboy]

What makes you think that the "ones who cant handle it" are the ones who are bad?

Isn’t that self-explanatory? Almost like a definition.

A pilot who can’t handle the plane is automatically a bad pilot. A pilot who can handle the plane is probably a good pilot. LoL.

I have no idea what you’re arguing or if this is just some weird word game.

Your logic is flawed and as we all know that isnt how shit works in the real world.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There's not a good word spoken about your country by the political right. It's all the equivalent of proclaiming America to be shithole of failures.

Boy do you have that ass backwards. Our President didn't spend his time running around the world apologizing for America.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Its about standards. A person with a JD still has to pass the state boards and can be censured or disbarred for bad behavior or unethical practices.

A hairdresser can lose her license for failure to practice standards of safety or hygiene..

Those people don't work for a government, all our police do.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Your logic is flawed and as we all know that isnt how shit works in the real world.

You failed to demonstrate how my logic is flawed. If you have a point, then say it already.

It looks like you're just trying to play vague word games.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

America gets what it's willing to pay for, and teachers are no exception.

America is failing on all fronts and there's no better place to come to hear it than this board.
The extremist right is spilling the beans, but then will return the next day on a different thread topic, to proclaim America as still being the greatest in everything!

We always are the ones proclaiming that America is the greatest country in the world. It's the left that comes here and tells us how much better things are in other places, particularly Europe. But being the greatest country on the planet doesn't mean we don't have problems, especially those the left brings us trying to turn us into another socialist shithole.

 

[Donald H]

There's not a good word spoken about your country by the political right. It's all the equivalent of proclaiming America to be shithole of failures.

Boy do you have that ass backwards. Our President didn't spend his time running around the world apologizing for America.

I'll be watching you Ray, to catch you complaining about something that has gone wrong with your country.
I suspect your first slip up will be on proclaiming that more Americans are being shot dead with guns every day.
And you may qualify that with a mention of the skin colour of the Americans in question.

Fwiw Ray, your avatar is a statement of your frustration and anger. It also hints at a solution! Would you care to speak about that?

 

[Donald H]

America gets what it's willing to pay for, and teachers are no exception.

America is failing on all fronts and there's no better place to come to hear it than this board.
The extremist right is spilling the beans, but then will return the next day on a different thread topic, to proclaim America as still being the greatest in everything!

We always are the ones proclaiming that America is the greatest country in the world. It's the left that comes here and tells us how much better things are in other places, particularly Europe. But being the greatest country on the planet doesn't mean we don't have problems, especially those the left brings us trying to turn us into another socialist shithole.

No sorry Ray, this forum is plumb full of examples of both the left and the right exposing the mess that America has become. We won't be debating that point between us anymore.

edit: not to forget the loud statement made by the political right on Jan.6th. against bad government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The resistance against federalization of police is resistance against Canada's recipe for success with our Mounties. Not the best in the world but not far from it.

America is suffering from a fatally flawed union of the states because of the needed compromises with the South. The question of the south's right to keep slaves was never completely resolved and hence it lives on in a racism issue that's quite unsolvable.

The attempt to allow more renegade city or state police forces is the extremist right's answer to the problem, while a higher federal standard would serve to at least address the racism problem and begin to fix the problem.

Of course America is a long way from accepting anything that could end the south's determination to regard black or brown people as equals to whites.

The US south's issue is so important to them that it's destroying America's democracy. Fascism, secession, or other destructive extremes have become the extreme right's battle cry.

And murder by their police is their only answer to solving the problems!

Our police only kill suspects who are presenting them (or others) with a threat of serious bodily harm or death, just like armed citizens. If they kill a suspect that doesn't present them with such a threat, they are held responsible.

The United States has over 700,000 police officers. Blacks are stopped by police a million times a year. Considering we are a population of over 340,000, real police crimes are few and far between.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

America gets what it's willing to pay for, and teachers are no exception.

America is failing on all fronts and there's no better place to come to hear it than this board.
The extremist right is spilling the beans, but then will return the next day on a different thread topic, to proclaim America as still being the greatest in everything!

We always are the ones proclaiming that America is the greatest country in the world. It's the left that comes here and tells us how much better things are in other places, particularly Europe. But being the greatest country on the planet doesn't mean we don't have problems, especially those the left brings us trying to turn us into another socialist shithole.

No sorry Ray, this forum is plumb full of examples of both the left and the right exposing the mess that America has become. We won't be debating that point between us anymore.

edit: not to forget the loud statement made by the political right on Jan.6th. against bad government.

Our complaints are about leftists and them trying to change our country--not our country itself. We love our country.

 

[Godboy]

Your logic is flawed and as we all know that isnt how shit works in the real world.

You failed to demonstrate how my logic is flawed. If you have a point, then say it already.

It looks like you're just trying to play vague word games.

You are proclaiming that the people who leave are the bad cops. Its a prepostorous statement that you have yet to support with any evidence.