Immanuel
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Full Definition of TOLERANCE
1
: capacity to endure pain or hardship : endurance, fortitude, stamina
2
a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own
b : the act of allowing something : toleration
Tolerance - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Perhaps this does not belong in the Politics forum and I apologize if it does not. Mods, feel free to move it if you think it belongs elsewhere.
Tolerance is something that most people believe in. Most of us believe that we should be tolerant of others and want others to be tolerant of us. Tolerance is a good thing! Those who are tolerant are praised and those who are not are hated. Or is that really true? I think not! Because in actuality, those who are praised are intolerant of others and those who are hated tend to be victims of slander by those who are praised.
I was watching CNN earlier this week before work (Thursday morning around 8am Eastern Time I believe) and I saw an interview between the CNN Anchor and someone I believe was from the American Family Association, but I do not recall his name. The Anchor repeatedly threw the word tolerance at the interviewee, Personally, this is a sticking point for me as I believe that we should by all means be tolerant and respectful of those with whom we disagree.
I feel like every time I turn around I am accused of being "intolerant" because I disagree with the idea of homosexual marriage (I support civil unions for all and allowing religious institutions to perform marriage rites because we are a diverse nation and whether or not I agree with "marriage equality", I do not think my country is obligated to agree with me) or that I think homosexuality is a sin. But it became obvious to me during this interview that the anchor was saying "tolerance" when what he really wanted was "celebration" of the homosexual community not just acceptance but full blown celebration of the diversity that exists. That is the issue that I think needs to be corrected.
Tolerance by definition 2a above simply essentially means - live and let live. If does not say that one must agree with the beliefs or practices of the conflicting side. That definition also uses the word - sympathy. I looked up the word - sympathy which was defined as pity (not at all something that I believe the LGBT community is seeking). But tolerance is not what the left is demanding. The LGBT community does not want to be allowed to live and let live, they want to be celebrated, welcomed, adored. If they wanted tolerance then when a baker said, "I am sorry, but I cannot bake a cake for your wedding..." they would move on to another baker. That is not what is happening. Rather they demand that the religious beliefs of the baker be subservient to their desires. That is not tolerance. That is enslavement.
It is not intolerant to say, "I disagree with homosexuality, but it does not affect me in any manner, therefore, let them live their own lives and I will live my own". In fact, it is intolerant of the left to demand more than this. To demand that a baker/photographer or whatever profession perform a service for a homosexual couple at their wedding is in fact intolerant of the beliefs of the service provider albeit acceptable to the "politically correct" crowd. It is not intolerant for an atheist to say, "I do not believe in your god, now leave me alone". It is intolerant for the atheist to say, "I do not believe in your god, therefore, you may no longer use the phrase 'one nation under god' when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance nor can you pray anywhere within my or my children's vicinity".
If the political correctness movement espoused tolerance, I would be politically correct. It doesn't, The left does not want me to live and let live when it comes to abortion in this country. The left wants me to pay for it with my tax dollars. The left wants me to ignore the fact that nearly a million babies a year are murdered at the hand of abortionists. The left wants me to absolve them of murder by denying that the baby in the mother's womb is even human. The left does not want me to be tolerant of the homosexual community; rather the left wants me to join in their festivities regardless of my personal feelings about those festivities. So, who are the intolerant ones?
I felt that the interviewee really blew it when he allowed the anchor to get away with his ploy. The interviewee never once stopped the anchor and said, "Now hold on a minute. Who is it that is intolerant of other beliefs in this discussion? You, not me. So stop playing your games and stand up for your own stated convictions. Do you want tolerance or not and if you do, when will you begin?"
I get the fact that the religious community has lost the debate on morality in America. I understand that. But let's be honest here, it is the Left Wing of American politics that is not tolerant of the beliefs of others. Granted some on the right are also intolerant, but in today's society "political correctness" aka "the tolerate us movement" is by no means tolerant of others and it is heavily weighted to the left wing of the spectrum.
You want tolerance? Then be tolerant.
PS: for the record, I cannot see myself denying service to a homosexual couple unless they came to my shop and demanded my services or requested that I produce something that I believed was discriminatory against other human beings. On the other hand, if my help was requested by an abortionist, (maybe the printing of propaganda?) I would steadfastly deny performance of such services. Therefore, I am intolerant.
1
: capacity to endure pain or hardship : endurance, fortitude, stamina
2
a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own
b : the act of allowing something : toleration
Tolerance - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Perhaps this does not belong in the Politics forum and I apologize if it does not. Mods, feel free to move it if you think it belongs elsewhere.
Tolerance is something that most people believe in. Most of us believe that we should be tolerant of others and want others to be tolerant of us. Tolerance is a good thing! Those who are tolerant are praised and those who are not are hated. Or is that really true? I think not! Because in actuality, those who are praised are intolerant of others and those who are hated tend to be victims of slander by those who are praised.
I was watching CNN earlier this week before work (Thursday morning around 8am Eastern Time I believe) and I saw an interview between the CNN Anchor and someone I believe was from the American Family Association, but I do not recall his name. The Anchor repeatedly threw the word tolerance at the interviewee, Personally, this is a sticking point for me as I believe that we should by all means be tolerant and respectful of those with whom we disagree.
I feel like every time I turn around I am accused of being "intolerant" because I disagree with the idea of homosexual marriage (I support civil unions for all and allowing religious institutions to perform marriage rites because we are a diverse nation and whether or not I agree with "marriage equality", I do not think my country is obligated to agree with me) or that I think homosexuality is a sin. But it became obvious to me during this interview that the anchor was saying "tolerance" when what he really wanted was "celebration" of the homosexual community not just acceptance but full blown celebration of the diversity that exists. That is the issue that I think needs to be corrected.
Tolerance by definition 2a above simply essentially means - live and let live. If does not say that one must agree with the beliefs or practices of the conflicting side. That definition also uses the word - sympathy. I looked up the word - sympathy which was defined as pity (not at all something that I believe the LGBT community is seeking). But tolerance is not what the left is demanding. The LGBT community does not want to be allowed to live and let live, they want to be celebrated, welcomed, adored. If they wanted tolerance then when a baker said, "I am sorry, but I cannot bake a cake for your wedding..." they would move on to another baker. That is not what is happening. Rather they demand that the religious beliefs of the baker be subservient to their desires. That is not tolerance. That is enslavement.
It is not intolerant to say, "I disagree with homosexuality, but it does not affect me in any manner, therefore, let them live their own lives and I will live my own". In fact, it is intolerant of the left to demand more than this. To demand that a baker/photographer or whatever profession perform a service for a homosexual couple at their wedding is in fact intolerant of the beliefs of the service provider albeit acceptable to the "politically correct" crowd. It is not intolerant for an atheist to say, "I do not believe in your god, now leave me alone". It is intolerant for the atheist to say, "I do not believe in your god, therefore, you may no longer use the phrase 'one nation under god' when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance nor can you pray anywhere within my or my children's vicinity".
If the political correctness movement espoused tolerance, I would be politically correct. It doesn't, The left does not want me to live and let live when it comes to abortion in this country. The left wants me to pay for it with my tax dollars. The left wants me to ignore the fact that nearly a million babies a year are murdered at the hand of abortionists. The left wants me to absolve them of murder by denying that the baby in the mother's womb is even human. The left does not want me to be tolerant of the homosexual community; rather the left wants me to join in their festivities regardless of my personal feelings about those festivities. So, who are the intolerant ones?
I felt that the interviewee really blew it when he allowed the anchor to get away with his ploy. The interviewee never once stopped the anchor and said, "Now hold on a minute. Who is it that is intolerant of other beliefs in this discussion? You, not me. So stop playing your games and stand up for your own stated convictions. Do you want tolerance or not and if you do, when will you begin?"
I get the fact that the religious community has lost the debate on morality in America. I understand that. But let's be honest here, it is the Left Wing of American politics that is not tolerant of the beliefs of others. Granted some on the right are also intolerant, but in today's society "political correctness" aka "the tolerate us movement" is by no means tolerant of others and it is heavily weighted to the left wing of the spectrum.
You want tolerance? Then be tolerant.
PS: for the record, I cannot see myself denying service to a homosexual couple unless they came to my shop and demanded my services or requested that I produce something that I believed was discriminatory against other human beings. On the other hand, if my help was requested by an abortionist, (maybe the printing of propaganda?) I would steadfastly deny performance of such services. Therefore, I am intolerant.
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