Politifact: 76% of what Trump says are Mostly False to Pants on Fire lies. Does it matter?

[rdean]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't think his policies matter as much as he speaks his mind and isn't establishment.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Still waiting for hope and change a transparent government, keep your doctor.....




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[Fueri]

What, are you worried that lying will attract the Clinton base?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Proof that he's more truthful than Hillary. Thanks!

 

[tinydancer]

Oh and Democrats are pure as the driven snow.

 

[Camp]

It doesn't matter that Trump is the biggest liar to run for President in history to his supporters. It does to the general electorate.

 

[OldLady]

One of my favorites is Trump's stump lie that refugees are coming in with no documentation, we have no idea who they are. He was using this one earlier in the race, but recently used it again in an interview. Now, if Trump is serious about national security, you'd think he might actually take the matter seriously and tell the truth about it. He could still argue for halting immigration and win, I think, just not basing it on bald faced lies.

Why does he keep it up? It's sad there are a bunch of people out there who BELIEVE him.

Below, from Politifact on Trump's stance on immigration:

Do the refugees get background checks?

The refugees admissions program, created in 1980 and retooled after 9/11, does actually perform background checks on all refugees, to the extent possible.

Before refugees face U.S. screening, they must get a referral from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (or occasionally a U.S. embassy or another NGO). The UN refers about 1 percent of refugees for resettlement through its own vetting process, which takes four to 10 months. During that process, UN officials decide if people actually qualify as refugees, if they require resettlement, and which country would accept them.

Once the cases are passed along to the United States, the refugees undergo security clearances. Their names, biographical information and fingerprints are run through federal terrorism and criminal databases. Meanwhile, the refugees are interviewed by Department of Homeland Security officials. If approved, they then undergo a medical screening, a match with sponsor agencies, "cultural orientation" classes and one final security clearance.

Syrian refugees in particular must clear one additional hurdle. Their documents are placed under extra scrutiny and cross-referenced with classified and unclassified information.

The process typically takes one to two yearsor longerand happens before a refugee ever gets onto American soil.

According to the State Department, Syrians tend to have more identity documents than other refugee groups around the world, and the reasons they give for missing documents (a bomb dropping on their house) can be verified.

Experts also warned against conflating the European vetting process, which is extremely chaotic, with the process used by the United States.

In the United States, very few resettled refugees — three since 9/11, according to theWashington Post’s Fact Checker — have been implicated in terrorist situations. Daryl Grisgraber of Refugees International pointed out that the Tsarnaevs came to the United States as children from Chechnya and applied for asylum, but were radicalized here.

Refugees are subject to the highest level of security checks of any traveler category to the United States. So for ISIS to take advantage of the refugee program "makes no operational sense," said Anne Speckhard, a counterterrorism expert at Georgetown University.

PolitiFact Sheet: 5 questions about Syrian refugees

 

[The VOR]

I don't think his policies matter as much as he speaks his mind and isn't establishment.

So, in other words for you, anyone who speaks their mind is pretty much all that you are looking for in a president. Well, that and no experience or knowledge of governmental policy of course.

 

[Camp]

The fact that Trump's pathological lying is indisputable and proven beyond any doubt makes no difference to those who fall into the category of "cult follower". They march like lemmings to the sea.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't think his policies matter as much as he speaks his mind and isn't establishment.

So, in other words for you, anyone who speaks their mind is pretty much all that you are looking for in a president. Well, that and no experience or knowledge of governmental policy of course.

im not voting for him
And I would rather a common joe be in office than a politician. They don't have to know every detail about everything. That's why they make cabinets and hire advisors.

 

[The VOR]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

I don't think he purposely lies. He just doesn't know what he is talking about and just wings it, and whatever pops into his empty skull he spouts without caring whether or not it is true, or makes any sense.

 

[blastoff]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

For the sake of argument I'll stipulate "most" is correct, but that means then you're perfectly okay with the true lies of Barry and "Sir Hillary" Clinton, which go on and on and on but are okay because they're slimey fucking dimocrats.

The broken record tune of deany never changes.

 

[2aguy]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

Wow...I am simply shocked...shocked that pro democrat, left wing politifact says trump is lying....wow.......that is simply amazing.....

 

[Claudette]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

Wow...I am simply shocked...shocked that pro democrat, left wing politifact says trump is lying....wow.......that is simply amazing.....

Yup and the most amazing thing is they actually believe it. Camp and the rest of the lefty loons that is.

What a bunch of marooonnnnss. LOL

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The fact that Trump's pathological lying is indisputable and proven beyond any doubt makes no difference to those who fall into the category of "cult follower". They march like lemmings to the sea.

As opposed to the the fact Clinton's pathological lying is indisputable and proven beyond any doubt makes no difference to those who fall into the category of "cult follower"? They march like lemmings to the sea.

 

[Camp]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

I don't think he purposely lies. He just doesn't know what he is talking about and just wings it, and whatever pops into his empty skull he spouts without caring whether or not it is true, or makes any sense.

That excuse of being simply being misinformed only works the first time. Once published reports and critics point out the "mistakes" and Trump continues to repeat the claim, he becomes a certified liar when he repeats the claim.

 

[Fueri]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

I don't think he purposely lies. He just doesn't know what he is talking about and just wings it, and whatever pops into his empty skull he spouts without caring whether or not it is true, or makes any sense.

That excuse of being simply being misinformed only works the first time. Once published reports and critics point out the "mistakes" and Trump continues to repeat the claim, he becomes a certified liar when he repeats the claim.

no, no, no, he can say he simply 'misspoke' any old time.

You can thank the hag HRC (and her supporters) for that incremental step down into the slime pit.....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What, are you worried that lying will attract the Clinton base?

/thread

 

[healthmyths]

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Politifact has been keeping track of Donald Trump's many outrageous lies.

The question here is "do they matter?" To those following Donald Trump, so what if he lies about everything, right?

For one, Republicans have been lying for years about everything. Even Republicans can run off an entire list with ease.

What kind of president will such a man make. And please, stop with the Obama comparisons and Hillary comparisons. Most of those are Republican lies anyway. And the somewhat rare honest Republican even admit it.

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