POLL: Are USMB Trump supporters okay with this plan?

[JoeB131]

No worse than Biden promising to get rid of fossil fuels.

Not seeing a problem... it's a good idea, and we are going to run out of them in 50 years regardless.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Uh, you have an answer... that you didn't understand it isn't my problem.



And out there is a Muslim who is equally convinced Allah is his sovereign God of Creation.

You must be from a low IQ state

 

[GMCGeneral]

Uh, you have an answer... that you didn't understand it isn't my problem.



And out there is a Muslim who is equally convinced Allah is his sovereign God of Creation.

But Muhammed never made the claim to be G-d Almighty, Jesus did. And the problem with false religions like Islam? No empty tomb.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

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My soul is right with God thank you.

You're welcome, even though I believe your statement is completely meaningless.

 

[JoeB131]

But Muhammed never made the claim to be G-d Almighty, Jesus did. And the problem with false religions like Islam? No empty tomb.

No tomb at all, actually.

There's actually a lot more historical proof for Mohammed than there was for Jesus.

 

[GMCGeneral]

No tomb at all, actually.

There's actually a lot more historical proof for Mohammed than there was for Jesus.

Only to unbelieving sinners like you. It is proof that He is risen indeed.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Fuck, let's go one better. Let's get rid of public education, and then return the tax dollars to the people. And the people who have kids can pay to have their kids educated or home school them.

You just could not resist the opportunity to show you complete lack of intelligence.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

No tomb at all, actually.

There's actually a lot more historical proof for Mohammed than there was for Jesus.

You do know Islam is far more strict than Christianity right? Do you think Muslims will tolerate all your leftist bs?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not many are pushing for this, but having the feds running our educational system is ridiculous. If you haven't noticed, people like you from Illinois have a slightly different idea of just how our children should be educated than many states in the South. Each state should be able to manage their own curriculum.

I was a teacher for 21 years. During my career, the federal government had almost no impact whatsoever. They don't run schools. Even the military's dependent schools are run by an organization in the Department of Defense. The go-to for conservatives is always to bash things they do not understand, like the Education Department.

If I had a dime for every exaggeration made by conservatives about public education, I would have more money than I could spend. I hate what the blue state liberals have done to public education in their areas, but most of us out here in fly-over country have never heard of CRT or any of the other BS programs common in the liberal dominated states and school districts. We did not deal with any transgender issues and lack of communication by parents was one of our greatest concerns. I failed thousands of students in my career after listening to conservatives bitching that no one could fail. Do the work and learn the material and you passed. Don't and you won't!

It makes me ashamed to be a conservative having to listen to conservatives bashing public education with a broad brush and complete ignorance of how schools work.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You have a point there. We don't teach kids about talking snakes and our kids have a good understanding on how evolution works. So there's that.

Of course, part of the problem is that because Texas is the largest market for textbooks, the textbook publishers tend to dumb down the textbooks to play in Texas, which is why we NEED federal standards.

But, man, you can't argue with results, can you? Check out these maps!

So my 86 year-old mother not having a high school diploma is held against me having a Master's degree. Is that what your chart says?


BTW, the last category in the bottom map's legend makes the whole map bogus.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He has to start with the FBI and DoJ, the DoE is further down on the list.

What does the Department of Energy have to do with it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually, I think we need a lot of education reform. I think we need to limit the ability of teacher unions to protect bad teachers. And the idiocy of spending more on special ed kids than we spend on the kids who are going to eventually become functioning members of society is a bit silly.

But all that said... vouchers aren't a solution.

So you don't believe in due process? Typical liberal.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I would say that is the ideal. But not in all cases. If you know that the kid is gay and his parents are screaming homophobic Christian assholes, you certainly don't out the kid to the parents. That would be putting the child's life in danger.



Gender identity isn't a psychosis. Argument fail.




Actually, up until 2008 or so, I voted Republican. And then after 8 years of Geo. W. Stupid's brilliant leadership, I found myself with a busted 401K, and underwater mortgage and a 25% reduction in pay.

The thing is, I did well under Clinton, even though I didn't like him. I did okay under Obama. Under Bush, the hits just kept coming because the guy kept finding ways to fuck things up.

You misspelled Democrats.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I would have zero problem completely shutting the Dept of Ed down, like Reagan wanted to do. Since it's Inception the Dept of Ed and proved to be a total waste of taxpayer money, with both test scores and dropout rates going the wrong direction. DC is the only place in the world where an agency can be a total failure and get more and more money every year.

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Neither of those are under the responsibility of the Education Department. Pardon me but your ignorance is showing.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bullshit, they hold the federal monetary anvil over every school district in the country, with all the dictates that come with it.

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Wrong again! The federal government only funds special education (IDEA) and reading programs for schools with a large number of poor students (Title I).

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Are you a teacher? Maybe you could expand on your list of reforms beyond what you’ve provided here…?

JoeB could not teach a fish to swim, a monkey to climb a tree, or a liberal to read.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

why aren’t vouchers a solution?

Vouchers strip school of the funding they need to teach students.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Republicans, and white conservatives, have long been hostile to public schools. School desegregation drove white evangelicals to become the strongest Republican demographic. Ronald Reagan promised to end the Department of Education in 1980. Trump put Betsy DeVos in charge of the Department of Education, precisely because she was a leading proponent (and funder) of defunding public schools, and funneling it to religious schools.
During her confirmation hearings it became clear that she knew nothing about education, and provided plagiarized and laughably bad answers to questions, asserting that teachers need guns to ward off grizzly bear attacks.

Republican candidates talk about “school choice” and putting God and prayer back in schools.

Conservative states such as Arizona, Florida, and Texas have been particularly aggressive in “school choice” reform that undercuts school funding. Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate (and insurrectionist Christian nationalist) Doug Mastriano goes a step further.
His educational plan is to eliminate property taxes, which is where half of the money for Pennsylvania schools comes from, and replace the lost revenue with vouchers for $9,000. This covers only half of what it costs to educate a student there.

Teabaggers want to fund religious schools with taxpayer $$$.

Supreme Court Decision Paves Way for Public Funds to ...​

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Jul 21, 2022 — Makin, issued on June 21, further breaches the separation between church and state by requiring states to fund private religious schools if they ...

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5 days ago — Thou shalt have the Ten Commandments in Texas public schools? ... Greg Abbott (R) signs it into law, the measure would go into effect Sept.

What the fuck is a teabagger, and no, we don't want to hear of your sexual fetishes?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We spend more per student than every other country you lying idiot

We educate all students, unlike those other countries around the world.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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^ My plan for the Department of Education

Eliminate outright Day 1.

Give parent vouchers that can only be spent on education.

No schools for students to attend is your solution?